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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#961 » by SichtingLives » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:17 pm

Are people still running the flimsy narrative that Ad has to be tied to Kyrie? Fairly illogical if you're being objective imo. I see a whole lot more red flags and dead ends tied to Kyrie than paths to a title in Boston. I'll take the eternity that is a year with AD and the opportunity to put a competitive team and strong culture around him. Also we will throw our arms around AD and show him what its like to be revered here. Gotta let go of Kyrie man it was an experiment, we did all we could and it didn't work, so what move on. his value is so overblown on this forum. and the time to talk about getting something back for him was the last two deadlines but hardly anyone wanted to have that discussion when it mattered. water under the bridge now.

All the signs have pointed to us trading for Davis for many years and they still do. The young guys were either going to be stars or be assets and they couldn't be stars in time so assets they be. None of the alternatives to not moving on AD are good. Sorry but I'm not concerned with losing Tatum, Brown or Smart at this point. This is the cost of doing business in this league. And Davis is only a rental if we don't do our job to give him a place to hold onto. Not concerned with Rich Paul and his nut hanging bs either. we do the right things and everything falls in line. if not, at least you tried. can't say that about cowarding out and pretending brown/tatum/hayward is going to do anything.
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#962 » by ILC » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:19 pm

denmuscles wrote:What do we do in case AD signs here then bolts and we have no Tatum or Brown lol. Gotta think 12 steps herr

You still have the Memphis pick, you still have one of Brown or Tatum, you still have Horford as a good vet who can get you a pick and a young guy from a contender probably. You would still have at least two guys from this year's draft. Move on and try again.
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#963 » by watsonthedragon » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:19 pm

Man, today's slow after yesterday.
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#964 » by Taget » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:20 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:LA's best Lonzo is deal is either Phoenix #6 pick or Chicago #7 pick. Can't see Lonzo & daddy playing in Indianapolis or Atlanta, and definitely not NO either.


After the Ball family packed up and went to Lithuania can't say Indiana is off the table. 8-)

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Basically eliminates these other pretend all star guys like Gordon, Lavine etc.


Ernie D is gone now which means stupid decisions by the Wiz are going to happen far less. I have trouble believing they give away Beal for anything other than a massive package. They have no incentive whatsoever to trade him


I don't see THAT being the maximum value they can get for Beal. In fact why wouldn't they wait to see if AD to the Lakers and present Beal as a consolation prize for a much better offer?

The only possible logic I could see is NO and LA being able to absorb salary and bring Washington under the tax. But if they are looking for a pure tax move I still can't believe Lonzo + #4 in a draft similar to 2016 where pick #3 to #11 was worth virtually the same.
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#965 » by Tiny ball » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:20 pm

Banks2Pierce wrote:
Jaqua92 wrote:Yeah, Danny this is out on this and doesn't get it done because of Jayson Tatum, then he has failed the post big3 rebuilds. Stockpiling all those assets only to get nothing it's a historic level of failure that I think a lot of us are afraid to admit. I'll always support this team, but if Danny doesn't get this done, I will absolutely question him as a GM for the rest of his time here



Nah, can't knock him when an All Star with no injury past breaks his leg minutes into a 130m contract. Maybe with the Kyrie is a fruit loop/injury risk factor, but he's still an elite gm.
Yes hard to blame Danny lot for Hayworth injury. I think Danny and like 99% of front office should be gone. It is just the way I think. Players not developing too soft a team on and on. I truly can't wait till Danny moves on or just consultant on trades. I also don't want to see him die on national TV.
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#966 » by Jaqua92 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:23 pm

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Banks2Pierce wrote:
Jaqua92 wrote:Yeah, Danny this is out on this and doesn't get it done because of Jayson Tatum, then he has failed the post big3 rebuilds. Stockpiling all those assets only to get nothing it's a historic level of failure that I think a lot of us are afraid to admit. I'll always support this team, but if Danny doesn't get this done, I will absolutely question him as a GM for the rest of his time here



Nah, can't knock him when an All Star with no injury past breaks his leg minutes into a 130m contract. Maybe with the Kyrie is a fruit loop/injury risk factor, but he's still an elite gm.
Yes hard to blame Danny lot for Hayworth injury. I think Danny and like 99% of front office should be gone. It is just the way I think. Players not developing too soft a team on and on. I truly can't wait till Danny moves on or just consultant on trades. I also don't want to see him die on national TV.
I don't think players being soft has anything to do with Danny. I think that's just roster construction and Brad Stevens

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Post#967 » by KGboss » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:23 pm

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R9ndo wrote:Just left with Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown is disappointing.


Over half the NBA would love to be "disappointed" with Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown.

I’m saying all we have left is brown and Tatum and they’re not even sure things.

If your not disappointed that we lost a chance at Davis and Kyrie Irving left your lying to yourself.
Not just Brown and Tatum either

Smart
Brown
Hayward
Tatum
Horford

That's still a good team in the east...may be better with Kyrie gone. I know you're the fiance left at the altar right now and its painful but imagine this team:

Conley
Brown
Hayward
Tatum
Horford

Smart
Baynes

The biggest loss we will feel next year is if they cant resign Mook.

It's a better team than last year.

You could even keep Hayward in that 6th man role without ball hog Rozier and let him run the offense. Conley and Smart front court? That defense.... ooo


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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#968 » by WeLikeOurGuys » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:26 pm

watsonthedragon wrote:Man, today's slow after yesterday.

I bet you Silva said something to all teams involved telling them to hold off after the finals.
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#969 » by Tyakack » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:32 pm

I will tell you one thing I never wanna hear ever again if this deal doesn't get done. "The celtics have a treasure chest of assets and the best package". We always seem to have that. It never matters.
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#970 » by WeLikeOurGuys » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:33 pm

KGboss wrote:
R9ndo wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:Over half the NBA would love to be "disappointed" with Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown.

I’m saying all we have left is brown and Tatum and they’re not even sure things.

If your not disappointed that we lost a chance at Davis and Kyrie Irving left your lying to yourself.
Not just Brown and Tatum either

Smart
Brown
Hayward
Tatum
Horford

That's still a good team in the east...may be better with Kyrie gone. I know you're the fiance left at the altar right now and its painful but imagine this team:

Conley
Brown
Hayward
Tatum
Horford

Smart
Baynes

The biggest loss we will feel next year is if they cant resign Mook.

It's a better team than last year.

You could even keep Hayward in that 6th man role without ball hog Rozier and let him run the offense. Conley and Smart front court? That defense.... ooo


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Nope, I’m good on Mike Conley and his contract. I’d bring back I.T on a cheap one year deal and hope he can catch fire again. Also I’d just build around Tatum and Brown, let Hayward walk and open up As much cap space as possible.
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#971 » by JR Hawks » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:37 pm

Tyakack wrote:I will tell you one thing I never wanna hear ever again if this deal doesn't get done. "The celtics have a treasure chest of assets and the best package". We always seem to have that. It never matters.


Danny's afraid to use it. We're like five years into a rebuild and Danny still can't decide if he wants to contend now or build for the future. Trying to do both has been a huge failure thus far.
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#972 » by Jaqua92 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:38 pm

JR Hawks wrote:
Tyakack wrote:I will tell you one thing I never wanna hear ever again if this deal doesn't get done. "The celtics have a treasure chest of assets and the best package". We always seem to have that. It never matters.


Danny's afraid to use it. We're like five years into a rebuild and Danny still can't decide if he wants to contend now or build for the future. Trying to do both has been a huge failure thus far.
Yup. I feel he gets it done though

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Post#973 » by Tiny ball » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:39 pm

R9ndo wrote:
Tiny ball wrote:
JR Hawks wrote:
We've been waiting on the "young kids" for several years with no meaningful results. We're the Boston Celtics, not the Maine Red Claws. Give us vets that can contend.
Golden State warriors are sure happy now they drafted and developed their players and became the best team in the NBA. Short cuts like Danny wants to take might get u one if all works out. Long term doing things the golden state San Antonio way works better over the long term.imho


Spurs has Tim Duncan and the one of the greatest NBA coaches of all time.

The warriors were extremely lucky it worked out for them but most of the time it doesn’t work out like that.
Because teams are badly managed draft badly. Most all teams in NBA are terrible at both drafting and developing. Many of the idiots would have traded curry for near nothing. Toronto has two all stars. Like both if I remember right were drafted at the middle and bottom of the first round? Celtics get picks in this range and been some time since they hit it right. That alone should mean house cleaning of all people involved in drafting players.
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#974 » by return2glory » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:39 pm

Jaqua92 wrote:Yeah, Danny this is out on this and doesn't get it done because of Jayson Tatum, then he has failed the post big3 rebuilds. Stockpiling all those assets only to get nothing it's a historic level of failure that I think a lot of us are afraid to admit. I'll always support this team, but if Danny doesn't get this done, I will absolutely question him as a GM for the rest of his time here

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Stockpiling all those assets weren’t intended for a player who has one year left on his contract and how doesn’t want to come here.

That would be a desperate move on his part.
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Post#975 » by ILC » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:42 pm

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Jaqua92 wrote:Yeah, Danny this is out on this and doesn't get it done because of Jayson Tatum, then he has failed the post big3 rebuilds. Stockpiling all those assets only to get nothing it's a historic level of failure that I think a lot of us are afraid to admit. I'll always support this team, but if Danny doesn't get this done, I will absolutely question him as a GM for the rest of his time here

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Stockpiling all those assets weren’t intended for a player who has one year left on his contract and how doesn’t want to come here.

That would be a desperate move on his part.

At some point you have to take that risk because there won't be a guy in his prime asking out with 4 years left on his contract. Unless it's Westbrook or Paul or Wall or some other overpaid guy you have to take the risk, trust your organizational culture and convince him to stay.
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#976 » by Slartibartfast » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:42 pm

R9ndo wrote:
KGboss wrote:
R9ndo wrote:I’m saying all we have left is brown and Tatum and they’re not even sure things.

If your not disappointed that we lost a chance at Davis and Kyrie Irving left your lying to yourself.
Not just Brown and Tatum either

Smart
Brown
Hayward
Tatum
Horford

That's still a good team in the east...may be better with Kyrie gone. I know you're the fiance left at the altar right now and its painful but imagine this team:

Conley
Brown
Hayward
Tatum
Horford

Smart
Baynes

The biggest loss we will feel next year is if they cant resign Mook.

It's a better team than last year.

You could even keep Hayward in that 6th man role without ball hog Rozier and let him run the offense. Conley and Smart front court? That defense.... ooo


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Nope, I’m good on Mike Conley and his contract. I’d bring back I.T on a cheap one year deal and hope he can catch fire again. Also I’d just build around Tatum and Brown, let Hayward walk and open up As much cap space as possible.


Conley's deal is relatively short, so it's not so bitter a pill.
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Post#977 » by Tiny ball » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:44 pm

Jurry wrote:Are people still running the flimsy narrative that Ad has to be tied to Kyrie? Fairly illogical if you're being objective imo. I see a whole lot more red flags and dead ends tied to Kyrie than paths to a title in Boston. I'll take the eternity that is a year with AD and the opportunity to put a competitive team and strong culture around him. Also we will throw our arms around AD and show him what its like to be revered here. Gotta let go of Kyrie man it was an experiment, we did all we could and it didn't work, so what move on. his value is so overblown on this forum. and the time to talk about getting something back for him was the last two deadlines but hardly anyone wanted to have that discussion when it mattered. water under the bridge now.

All the signs have pointed to us trading for Davis for many years and they still do. The young guys were either going to be stars or be assets and they couldn't be stars in time so assets they be. None of the alternatives to not moving on AD are good. Sorry but I'm not concerned with losing Tatum, Brown or Smart at this point. This is the cost of doing business in this league. And Davis is only a rental if we don't do our job to give him a place to hold onto. Not concerned with Rich Paul and his nut hanging bs either. we do the right things and everything falls in line. if not, at least you tried. can't say that about cowarding out and pretending brown/tatum/hayward is going to do anything.
AD is walking. Smart filler and couple low draft picks.
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Post#978 » by WeLikeOurGuys » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:44 pm

Slartibartfast wrote:
R9ndo wrote:
KGboss wrote:Not just Brown and Tatum either

Smart
Brown
Hayward
Tatum
Horford

That's still a good team in the east...may be better with Kyrie gone. I know you're the fiance left at the altar right now and its painful but imagine this team:

Conley
Brown
Hayward
Tatum
Horford

Smart
Baynes

The biggest loss we will feel next year is if they cant resign Mook.

It's a better team than last year.

You could even keep Hayward in that 6th man role without ball hog Rozier and let him run the offense. Conley and Smart front court? That defense.... ooo


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Nope, I’m good on Mike Conley and his contract. I’d bring back I.T on a cheap one year deal and hope he can catch fire again. Also I’d just build around Tatum and Brown, let Hayward walk and open up As much cap space as possible.


Conley's deal is relatively short, so it's not so bitter a pill.


You can’t get Conley unless you trade Hayward or Horford right? So that team that guy mention above me wouldn’t even work.
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Post#979 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:44 pm

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Post#980 » by KGboss » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:45 pm

Slartibartfast wrote:
R9ndo wrote:
KGboss wrote:Not just Brown and Tatum either

Smart
Brown
Hayward
Tatum
Horford

That's still a good team in the east...may be better with Kyrie gone. I know you're the fiance left at the altar right now and its painful but imagine this team:

Conley
Brown
Hayward
Tatum
Horford

Smart
Baynes

The biggest loss we will feel next year is if they cant resign Mook.

It's a better team than last year.

You could even keep Hayward in that 6th man role without ball hog Rozier and let him run the offense. Conley and Smart front court? That defense.... ooo


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Nope, I’m good on Mike Conley and his contract. I’d bring back I.T on a cheap one year deal and hope he can catch fire again. Also I’d just build around Tatum and Brown, let Hayward walk and open up As much cap space as possible.


Conley's deal is relatively short, so it's not so bitter a pill.
And you cant just let Hayward walk lol

That's not how contracts work in the NBA

Hes on the team and will make a significant leap next year

I'd put easy money on it

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