Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade

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Re: Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade 

Post#661 » by Jazz9 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:54 pm

Tracymcgoaty wrote:I cant believe Pels think Kuzma is the most valuable asset we got..Great i hope we can keep either Lonzo or BI then..i'd have no problem seeing Kuz leave. He is made for the 6th man role..come out guns blazing.


Kuz is a good player and will make only $3.6 and $5.3M the next two years
BI will expect big bucks after next year and Pels don't seem to be very interested in that
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Post#662 » by mtron929 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:54 pm

So I don't know what the Celtics fans might think about this but if I were the Pelicans, I might get creative.

It's clear that the Celtics don't want to include Tatum, but are willing to include Brown. I think there is a creative compromise here. I would settle for.... Brown+Smart+14th pick+20th pick+Memphis pick + Brad Stevens. Yes, Brad Stevens. I think he would be a perfect coach for the young Pelicans and would lead to developing Zion nicely.
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Post#663 » by jfs1000d » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:56 pm

I think Celtics are gonna just move on soon. Go get a replacement for Kyrie, play better team hoops And defense next year and win 50 games again.

Lot of talent in Boston. Nothing like Kyrie, but they massively underachieved.




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Post#664 » by mtron929 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:58 pm

jfs1000d wrote:I think Celtics are gonna just move on soon. Go get a replacement for Kyrie, play better team hoops And defense next year and win 50 games again.

Lot of talent in Boston. Nothing like Kyrie, but they massively underachieved.




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So how would the Celtics get a top 5-6 player if they move on from Davis?
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Post#665 » by Tracymcgoaty » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:58 pm

Jazz9 wrote:
Tracymcgoaty wrote:I cant believe Pels think Kuzma is the most valuable asset we got..Great i hope we can keep either Lonzo or BI then..i'd have no problem seeing Kuz leave. He is made for the 6th man role..come out guns blazing.


Kuz is a good player and will make only $3.6 and $5.3M the next two years
BI will expect big bucks after next year and Pels don't seem to be very interested in that


I hope so..this is just me personally..i'd like for us to keep the core..I dont see AD coming here making us major contenders..Keep the core try preach team culture and make this a team again. We are so far off from being together as an org and as an team.

Look at Nets..thats the blueprint.
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Re: Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade 

Post#666 » by ITYSL » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:03 pm

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thebigbird wrote:Let's not act like Tatum is a sure fire future superstar, or even a sure fire future all-star. Right now nothing about him sets him apart from Kuzma or Ingram. Kuzma + Ingram is a much better offer than Tatum.

I agree that adding Kuzma changes the discussion, but from everything we have heard, the Lakers are not willing to give up Kuzma.

I think most team execs would disagree with you re: Tatum vs. Kuzma or Ingram. Tatum's playoff performance last year had a lasting effect on his image. Tatum was also better than both of them almost across the board this season.


He was not better than Ingram prior to his injury. He was playing lights out.

That doesn't matter. Tatum was better than him for the full season, and that's what matters. Ingram's injury isn't some kind of point in his favor. His durability has been a question for a while because of his lean frame, and so his inability to play 60 games for either of the last two seasons hurts his value as a trade asset.
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Re: Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade 

Post#667 » by jfs1000d » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:08 pm

mtron929 wrote:
jfs1000d wrote:I think Celtics are gonna just move on soon. Go get a replacement for Kyrie, play better team hoops And defense next year and win 50 games again.

Lot of talent in Boston. Nothing like Kyrie, but they massively underachieved.




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So how would the Celtics get a top 5-6 player if they move on from Davis?

They won’t.

They aren’t. Not this year anyway. But this is the team that took IT and turned him into second team all nba. You can find a PG.

Run it back with Hayward, Tatum,Brown and Horford. Trade for a PG with your 3 Draft picks .


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Post#668 » by levon » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:12 pm

jfs1000d wrote:They won’t.

They aren’t. Not this year anyway. But this is the team that took IT and turned him into second team all nba. You can find a PG.

Run it back with Hayward, Tatum,Brown and Horford. Trade for a PG with your 3 Draft picks .

What's your feel on a Mike Conley trade? Is it a real consideration, do you like the idea of it, etc
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Post#669 » by jfs1000d » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:13 pm

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jfs1000d wrote:They won’t.

They aren’t. Not this year anyway. But this is the team that took IT and turned him into second team all nba. You can find a PG.

Run it back with Hayward, Tatum,Brown and Horford. Trade for a PG with your 3 Draft picks .

What's your feel on a Mike Conley trade? Is it a real consideration, do you like the idea of it, etc


I like the player. How does he get here?


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Post#670 » by mtron929 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:16 pm

jfs1000d wrote:
mtron929 wrote:
jfs1000d wrote:I think Celtics are gonna just move on soon. Go get a replacement for Kyrie, play better team hoops And defense next year and win 50 games again.

Lot of talent in Boston. Nothing like Kyrie, but they massively underachieved.




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So how would the Celtics get a top 5-6 player if they move on from Davis?

They won’t.

They aren’t. Not this year anyway. But this is the team that took IT and turned him into second team all nba. You can find a PG.

Run it back with Hayward, Tatum,Brown and Horford. Trade for a PG with your 3 Draft picks .


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Well, I think it is a big mistake. Top 5/6 players don't grow on trees and waiting for one to become available is not a strategy. At the very least, the Celtics do not have these Brooklyn picks anymore so they are on the same level field now as 29 other teams that are waiting on a superstar to become available. Moreover, the Celtics are good enough that they will probably not get high lottery picks any time soon minus perhaps the Memphis picks. So basically, if the Celtics pass on Davis, unless one of Tatum/Brown becomes a top 5/6 players themselves, then this group of Celtics players rate to be good but not great team for the next few years.
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Post#671 » by Jon1798 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:16 pm

jfs1000d wrote:
mtron929 wrote:
jfs1000d wrote:I think Celtics are gonna just move on soon. Go get a replacement for Kyrie, play better team hoops And defense next year and win 50 games again.

Lot of talent in Boston. Nothing like Kyrie, but they massively underachieved.




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So how would the Celtics get a top 5-6 player if they move on from Davis?

They won’t.

They aren’t. Not this year anyway. But this is the team that took IT and turned him into second team all nba. You can find a PG.

Run it back with Hayward, Tatum,Brown and Horford. Trade for a PG with your 3 Draft picks .


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Fair chance Hortford ops out without this trade. Celtics probably lose Kyrie, Hortford, Morris and have to decide on Rozier. They may have more pressure than anyone.
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Post#672 » by ChiCitySPORTS#1 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:20 pm

Kyrie to the nets. If KD joins him, what happens to the Knicks? Do they strike out completely? Kawhi isn’t going there..AD is getting traded, and Kemba wants to stay in Charolette. Who’s left?
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Post#673 » by Crizzle » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:34 pm

jfs1000d wrote:
levon wrote:
jfs1000d wrote:They won’t.

They aren’t. Not this year anyway. But this is the team that took IT and turned him into second team all nba. You can find a PG.

Run it back with Hayward, Tatum,Brown and Horford. Trade for a PG with your 3 Draft picks .

What's your feel on a Mike Conley trade? Is it a real consideration, do you like the idea of it, etc


I like the player. How does he get here?


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id try to get the pick back, but probably hayward and 14 (i think its 14...)gets it done.
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Post#674 » by levon » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:36 pm

Crizzle wrote:id try to get the pick back, but probably hayward and 14 (i think its 14...)gets it done.

I feel like Memphis should get more in this, but maybe Hayward regains some more powers. I like something like this trade for both sides.

Edit: Actually, I wonder if the Celtics hold back on trading Hayward because he chose them, and it might be perceived as trading someone else who got injured on their watch.
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Post#675 » by zimpy27 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:47 pm

jfs1000d wrote:
mtron929 wrote:
jfs1000d wrote:I think Celtics are gonna just move on soon. Go get a replacement for Kyrie, play better team hoops And defense next year and win 50 games again.

Lot of talent in Boston. Nothing like Kyrie, but they massively underachieved.




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So how would the Celtics get a top 5-6 player if they move on from Davis?

They won’t.

They aren’t. Not this year anyway. But this is the team that took IT and turned him into second team all nba. You can find a PG.

Run it back with Hayward, Tatum,Brown and Horford. Trade for a PG with your 3 Draft picks .


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If I were them I'd try trade Hayward for CP3 and consolidate some youth and picks into Favors.

CP3, Brown, Tatum, Favors, Horford
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Re: Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade 

Post#676 » by Middle Child » Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:31 am

ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:Kyrie to the nets. If KD joins him, what happens to the Knicks? Do they strike out completely? Kawhi isn’t going there..AD is getting traded, and Kemba wants to stay in Charolette. Who’s left?


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Post#677 » by ChiCitySPORTS#1 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:44 am

Middle Child wrote:
ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:Kyrie to the nets. If KD joins him, what happens to the Knicks? Do they strike out completely? Kawhi isn’t going there..AD is getting traded, and Kemba wants to stay in Charolette. Who’s left?


Barrett
Knox
Robinson

As the foundation going forward. Continue to build from there until these kids develop.

We need to stop chasing free agents.


Not good enough. They also traded KP away. This would be a colossal failure for them - particularly if the Nets swoop in and get 1 or 2 prized FA
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Post#678 » by Kordic27 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:49 am

Middle Child wrote:
ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:Kyrie to the nets. If KD joins him, what happens to the Knicks? Do they strike out completely? Kawhi isn’t going there..AD is getting traded, and Kemba wants to stay in Charolette. Who’s left?


Barrett
Knox
Robinson

As the foundation going forward. Continue to build from there until these kids develop.

We need to stop chasing free agents.


It’s really not a bad strategy. Bunch of singles and doubles score runs too.
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Re: Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade 

Post#679 » by The Penguin » Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:57 am

Tinfoil hat time...

I think the deal is done but Silver doesn’t want it announced during the Finals. The teams can posture about Kuzma or a player for #4 as a way to stall it out. Finals ends, deal gets announced, Kuzma is included and the Pels can claim they got the piece they wanted.
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Re: Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade 

Post#680 » by LakersSquad » Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:01 am

Jagic Mohnson wrote:aigne could be creating a bigger monster if he gets davis. reason is bron will force a trade from lakers to whomever which means kawhi will once again add Lakers to his list. then davis will give ainge an ultimatum that he aint resigning so trade me to the lakers. boom anthony davis and kawhi duo for the next 6-8 years vs bron and brow for the next 2-3 years.


Lol wtf are you talking about

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