Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8

[Slartibartfast]

There is no way I trade brown for Ingram or smart for ball

exactly.

Brown
Smart
Memphis
2 firsts


That's a haul for AD. Brown is a rising 15 ppg scorer. Smart all nba defensive guard and the memphis pick. Three firsts including one possible lottery pick?

Wouldn't even put the Memphis pick if I'm giving Brown and Smart.

Kawhi Leonard got San Antonio less than that. This situation should be no different.

The Spurs valued DeRozan as a legit all-star. Foolishly so. And the league has seen how one sided that deal was.

[The Corey's]

This hasn’t nothing to do with me. I’m not making the deals. It’s been reported that Kuz is the most coveted asset here.

Oh I forgot, since it was reported it must be true. What the hell is happening to this board?

My bad. I forgot usual board etiquette.... only if it’s in our favor it’s true.. got it

Bahahha

[zoyathedestroya]

I would take smart over ball bc I love smart, he’s a warrior all balls and grit and a tough SOB and I’d rather be in the trenches with him than lonzo. Lonzos value to teams around the league is still higher than smarts ( even if I disagree )- just more upside and still on a cost controlled contract for 2 more years.

Who cares what the rest of the league thinks? It's only Griffin and the Pelicans that matter. Who do they want between those two? As far as I know from his time on NBATV, Griffin loves Marcus Smart. Only advantage of Ball is his contract. And if you want to build an competitive team from the get-go (which is what Griffin is trying to do), you take Smart over Ball 11 times out of 10.

Ok so let’s get to the real argument then I’d love your opinion - we get AD without Tatum?

If Lakers don't find a third team, then yes.

[canman1971]

This hasn’t nothing to do with me. I’m not making the deals. It’s been reported that Kuz is the most coveted asset here.

Oh I forgot, since it was reported it must be true. What the hell is happening to this board?

My bad. I forgot usual board etiquette.... only if it’s in our favor it’s true.. got it

That makes no sense to what I was saying in any way. But please continue your narrative.

[klemen4]

Brown, Smart, William's, 14, 20, 22 and MEM pick is quite a haul.

Better than supposed Lal offer no doubt.

[The Corey's]

Just to be clear you have no clue what I’m fine with. What I will say is Ainge knows so much more than both you and me. Only one of us can’t grasp that and lives in a vacuum.

You ae being really abrasive for no reason. I legit asked you a question because you've already pulled the "you dont know what I think" card and you wont even just go on record if the scenario I laid out was fine by you.

It's a good tactic. We wouldnt want to be held accountable for the things wete actually thinking or anything.

Well I guess I have to spell it out for you. Obviously I trust Ainge much more than what I think and certainly what you think and just about anyone on a message board. Doesn’t mean he’s perfect and won’t swing and miss. But he’s a freaking professional with a staff he works with. His track record deserves a little more respect than the minions who on one hand want Kyrie out of town, and on the other critique Ainge for losing him. Yes ideally you would like to get something in return. I’ve said that. But Kyrie is a FA and controls he own destiny.

I have zero issues with the Irving trade. I thought it was amazing and WORTH the risk.

But what we couldnt do in the tei years we had him I dont feel at all comfortable we will be able to do that with Davis. So I want the compensation for Davis to reflect those risk.

Not a any means necessary tactic. Not that I believe he would.

[MagicBagley18]

Who cares what the rest of the league thinks? It's only Griffin and the Pelicans that matter. Who do they want between those two? As far as I know from his time on NBATV, Griffin loves Marcus Smart. Only advantage of Ball is his contract. And if you want to build an competitive team from the get-go (which is what Griffin is trying to do), you take Smart over Ball 11 times out of 10.

Ok so let’s get to the real argument then I’d love your opinion - we get AD without Tatum?

If Lakers don't find a third team, then yes.

That’s part of my point of what I originally said the lakers package has lonzo and 4 which can be sent to a 3rd teams there’s more avenues to get what the pels desire.

[BRUNiNHO91]

Read on Twitter

Settle. Wow.

It's really not that crazy. Think about what we gave up for Kyrie. A lower level all-star, a rock solid 3D wing on a bargain deal, an unprotected BK pick and Zizic.

Tatum roughly = BK pick in value, ditto IT and Mem. Smart = Crowder, Williams = Zizic.

And AD even with one less year is a bigger catch than Kyrie.

It actually is.

Bigger catch or not, 2 years is still two years. That would be an awful trade. If you wanna compare, compare DeRozan, Poetl and some trash 1st rounder for Kawhi. That's where Davis' value should stand in my book.

To me it's either Brown + Smart and 14 or Tatum, Smart and 20+22. Giving away Tatum, Smart and Mem pick + 2 first rounders is a **** joke. Specially for a guy that just had his agent nuke his value even further 2 days ago. No thanks.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Lets Rank assets.

1. Tatum
2. Brown
3. Kuzma
4. Ingram
5. Smart
6. Ball

picks

This comes down to how much do the Pels value players. Do they rank Kuzma more than Brown. Or, are Tatum and Brwn 1 and 2?

I guess this will determine what LA decides.

If NO wants to win, they take Brown, Smart, etc. If they want to tank, Kuz and Ingram are great tank commaders.

Tatum
Brown
#4
Smart
Lonzo
MEM pick
Ingram
Kuzma
14
Williams
20
22
Hart

[Feed Your Head]

This hasn’t nothing to do with me. I’m not making the deals. It’s been reported that Kuz is the most coveted asset here.

Oh I forgot, since it was reported it must be true. What the hell is happening to this board?

My bad. I forgot usual board etiquette.... only if it’s in our favor it’s true.. got it

Kuzma was the asset they covet the most from the Lakers, not in general.

[zoyathedestroya]

Ok so let’s get to the real argument then I’d love your opinion - we get AD without Tatum?

If Lakers don't find a third team, then yes.

That’s part of my point of what I originally said the lakers package has lonzo and 4 which can be sent to a 3rd teams there’s more avenues to get what the pels desire.

That's my concession.
If Lakers can get Beal, we don't beat that even with Tatum.

[canman1971]

Oh I forgot, since it was reported it must be true. What the hell is happening to this board?

My bad. I forgot usual board etiquette.... only if it’s in our favor it’s true.. got it

Kuzma was the asset they covet the most from the Lakers, not in general.

We really don’t know if NO covers that what I feel is a JAG. But time will tell.

[MagicBagley18]

Kuzma being the coveted asset is a bs story there’s no weight to it don’t fall for the okie doke....

[BRUNiNHO91]

exactly.

Brown
Smart
Memphis
2 firsts


That's a haul for AD. Brown is a rising 15 ppg scorer. Smart all nba defensive guard and the memphis pick. Three firsts including one possible lottery pick?

Wouldn't even put the Memphis pick if I'm giving Brown and Smart.

Kawhi Leonard got San Antonio less than that. This situation should be no different.

The Spurs valued DeRozan as a legit all-star. Foolishly so. And the league has seen how one sided that deal was.

They asked for Siakam and Toronto said no. Boston should do the same.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

I'd give up brown and Tatum if Irving was going to stay. But Aingr can't give these guys up with no Irving because Davis is just going to walk.

[SmartWentCrazy]

The Irving story was probably planted for a reason, FWIW— were not giving up Tatum and were not budging. If that means no AD, no big deal.

[BRUNiNHO91]

I'd give up brown and Tatum if Irving was going to stay. But Ange can't keep up with these guys with no Irving because Davis is just going to walk.

Exactly. If Irving stayed you have Horford, Irving, Smart and Hayward to recover some assets if Davis bounces. You lose Irving, trade Tatum, Smart, Williams, Mem and 2 firsts what the hell are you left with after? Horford, an expiring Hayward that could or could not return to all star form and Brown about to get paid.

Boston has to be smart about this ****.

[jfs1000d]

Kuzma being the coveted asset is a bs story there’s no weight to it don’t fall for the okie doke....

Read the story. Kuzma is the Lakers' best asset. Said nothing of what they compare to Boston's Tatum and Brown. They dont consider Kuzma the best asset overall to be had. Point of the story is to say the pels dont value No. 4 that high.

[Slartibartfast]

Wouldn't even put the Memphis pick if I'm giving Brown and Smart.

Kawhi Leonard got San Antonio less than that. This situation should be no different.

The Spurs valued DeRozan as a legit all-star. Foolishly so. And the league has seen how one sided that deal was.

They asked for Siakam and Toronto said no. Boston should do the same.

Siakam was a bench player who just made a huge leap. Similar to us refusing Rondo in the KG trade. Easier to be stubborn with the minor assets.

The headliners are what matter. Toronto had one with DeRozan. We have one with Tatum as a consensus up and coming star (Brown justly or unjustly doesn't have that rep)

Without Tatum our platter is no sexier than LA's.

[MagicBagley18]

Kuzma being the coveted asset is a bs story there’s no weight to it don’t fall for the okie doke....

Read the story. Kuzma is the Lakers' best asset. Said nothing of what they compare to Boston's Tatum and Brown. They dont consider Kuzma the best asset overall to be had. Point of the story is to say the pels dont value No. 4 that high.

I don’t need to read the story....I have read it. It’s bs. They don’t view kuzma as the best asset Lakers have. And Tania and Broderick turner who wrote the story and suggested that the lakers could keep 4 if they throw in kuzma are completly out of their minds.