Future Free Agent Thread

[pickIBL]

Hubie brown gave van vleet the mvp. He was a big damn deal in that series for sure.

As for the Jazz they need that secondary scorer which is probably a PG or wing. I had been saying the only reason GS isnt unstoppable is the injury risk their players carry. And the long term injuries have piled up.

If the jazz can make a move this is their best chance to get out of the west.

PICKIBL!! Welcome back! Where have you been? Hope all is well with you...

also... you should drop some info in the draft prospects thread on the Euro prospects... Cheers.

Include picks for vet scoring help so donovan isnt out there on an island. KD is KOed. Klay's knee turned to clay. The window just busted wide open. The jazz need a proven scorer.

Trade out of the draft if that's what it takes.

[KqWIN]

Hubie brown gave van vleet the mvp. He was a big damn deal in that series for sure.

As for the Jazz they need that secondary scorer which is probably a PG or wing. I had been saying the only reason GS isnt unstoppable is the injury risk their players carry. And the long term injuries have piled up.

If the jazz can make a move this is their best chance to get out of the west.

PICKIBL!! Welcome back! Where have you been? Hope all is well with you...

also... you should drop some info in the draft prospects thread on the Euro prospects... Cheers.

Include picks for vet scoring help so donovan isnt out there on an island. KD is KOed. Klay's knee turned to clay. The window just busted wide open. The jazz need a proven scorer.

Trade out of the draft if that's what it takes.

Pick is back, and with the right mentality!

The time to win the west is right now.

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PICKIBL!! Welcome back! Where have you been? Hope all is well with you...

also... you should drop some info in the draft prospects thread on the Euro prospects... Cheers.

Include picks for vet scoring help so donovan isnt out there on an island. KD is KOed. Klay's knee turned to clay. The window just busted wide open. The jazz need a proven scorer.

Trade out of the draft if that's what it takes.

Pick is back, and with the right mentality!

The time to win the west is right now.

Trade the pick for Lou Williams and Gallo... to give LAC 2 max slots.

[KqWIN]

Include picks for vet scoring help so donovan isnt out there on an island. KD is KOed. Klay's knee turned to clay. The window just busted wide open. The jazz need a proven scorer.

Trade out of the draft if that's what it takes.

Pick is back, and with the right mentality!

The time to win the west is right now.

Trade the pick for Lou Williams and Gallo... to give LAC 2 max slots.

If we did that, we'd be a great team. Even if the Clippers get Kawhi and Jimmy, we have a better shot at winning the west than we have since Stockton and Malone. Likely a better shot than we will have for a long time. We can either be scared of these new super teams and nothing, or we can try to build the best team we can while these teams are just now forming.

Given the choice between doing nothing and trying to compete, I want to compete.

[pickIBL]

At some point the FO has to recruit somebody. I love gallo but he's an injury train wreck and lou is already getting mail from the AARP. When lou loses half a step he's in trouble.

Beal and Butler sadly arent options but I think you gotta pitch kemba about playing with Donovan and the best defensive center of a generation.

You sign kemba. Release Rubio and Favs. Replace with Faried and Rondo. I mean the most ideal players arent coming, but the clips deal sounds like plan c to me.

[pickIBL]

Maybe you also package the pick and a contract for mirotic too. It's big move time.

[SoCalJazzFan]

So, if you knew you could get either player, would you:
1) Trade for Conley (some combination of Royce, Exum, and 1-2 FRPs); or
2) Sign DLo (not lose out on the above assets and also have an extra roughly $5M in cap space)?

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So, if you knew you could get either player, would you:
1) Trade for Conley (some combination of Royce, Exum, and 1-2 FRPs); or
2) Sign DLo (not lose out on the above assets and also have an extra roughly $5M in cap space)?

Not close. DLo for free.

[Luigi]

I on board with Russell. As long as we don't call him D'Lo It could be a big mistake, but we gotta do something. And I'm concerned that Conley doesn't really want to play here.

[pickIBL]

Would love to see boston lose rozier to utah somehow.

[Rauxcee]

So, if you knew you could get either player, would you:
1) Trade for Conley (some combination of Royce, Exum, and 1-2 FRPs); or
2) Sign DLo (not lose out on the above assets and also have an extra roughly $5M in cap space)?

Russel, then Harris, then Middleton, and only Conley if we completely strike out.

[Daddy 801]

If we are signing guys to win a championship I’d send out Exum and Crowder to add a guy like Danny Green in a heart beat. He also played well in the finals. Give him a 3 year 40 million. Structure it so it’s front loaded. Something like 15, 13, 12. Give him incentives and make the third year team option. We need more shooters. Even if it’s only 4-6 3 pointers a night it will change up the offense to be more efficient. We could still sign one of the high level guys we have been talking about in addition to Green.

[Tom349]

So, if you knew you could get either player, would you:
1) Trade for Conley (some combination of Royce, Exum, and 1-2 FRPs); or
2) Sign DLo (not lose out on the above assets and also have an extra roughly $5M in cap space)?

Not close. DLo for free.

Except DLo isn't going to come for free. He is more or less going to cost the same as Conley, to sign either player it is going to cost both Favors and Rubio. It's essentially a question of who you rate higher out of Conley and DLo. Which right now the better, more rounded player is Conley, he gives you everything Rubio gives with the added bonus of more reliable scoring/shooting. DLo has the far greater upside and could be a potentially elite player on offense but he isn't going to do the little things that Rubio does for us and Conley could do for us albeit not to the same level.

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So, if you knew you could get either player, would you:
1) Trade for Conley (some combination of Royce, Exum, and 1-2 FRPs); or
2) Sign DLo (not lose out on the above assets and also have an extra roughly $5M in cap space)?

Not close. DLo for free.

Except DLo isn't going to come for free. He is more or less going to cost the same as Conley, to sign either player it is going to cost both Favors and Rubio. It's essentially a question of who you rate higher out of Conley and DLo. Which right now the better, more rounded player is Conley, he gives you everything Rubio gives with the added bonus of more reliable scoring/shooting. DLo has the far greater upside and could be a potentially elite player on offense but he isn't going to do the little things that Rubio does for us and Conley could do for us albeit not to the same level.

The stipulation in the question was "if you knew you could get either player"...

Conley is better today(or at least yesterday) than DLo, but you have to give up additional assets for him and you have zero guarantees he will stay past the current season... especially if he continues to be good. In essence I'm choosing the certainty of DLo for the next 4 years and him most probably improving as he enters his prime than 1 good year of 2 bad years of Conley. +the picks...

[Tom349]

Not close. DLo for free.

Except DLo isn't going to come for free. He is more or less going to cost the same as Conley, to sign either player it is going to cost both Favors and Rubio. It's essentially a question of who you rate higher out of Conley and DLo. Which right now the better, more rounded player is Conley, he gives you everything Rubio gives with the added bonus of more reliable scoring/shooting. DLo has the far greater upside and could be a potentially elite player on offense but he isn't going to do the little things that Rubio does for us and Conley could do for us albeit not to the same level.

The stipulation in the question was "if you knew you could get either player"...

Conley is better today(or at least yesterday) than DLo, but you have to give up additional assets for him and you have zero guarantees he will stay past the current season... especially if he continues to be good. In essence I'm choosing the certainty of DLo for the next 4 years and him most probably improving as he enters his prime than 1 good year of 2 bad years of Conley. +the picks...

The point Im more emphasising is regardless of which player you sign or trade for, we're losing Favors and Rubio and replacing them is the most important thing, the other assets are far less relevant. Conley is a straight up like for like swap for Rubio, Dlo is more of an unknown. 36hrs ago I would have been in the same boat as you and said DLo, but with Klay going down and uncertainty surrounding our rivals Conley is probably the choice I would go even if it means giving up additional assets on top of Rubio and Favors. I also think both players can thrive in Quins system but Conley in particular has never really played in any decent offensive system and as a result could still have a level or 2 to rise too. Which given next season is the best shot at winning at winning a title before the next group of up and coming teams fill-out their rosters I would say I am in favour of the quick fix option.

[SoCalJazzFan]

So, if you knew you could get either player, would you:
1) Trade for Conley (some combination of Royce, Exum, and 1-2 FRPs); or
2) Sign DLo (not lose out on the above assets and also have an extra roughly $5M in cap space)?

Russel, then Harris, then Middleton, and only Conley if we completely strike out.

Even though I think that Conley would be the one who would help the Jazz get the farthest in the playoffs this next year, I agree with your priority with a more long term outlook.

[Calhamid94]

I’d try and trade for Jrue! with their most recent trade with LA, the pelicans have a young core. They’re in a rebuilding phase and make we could offer them favors and Exum for Jrue or Exum and 1-2 future first round picks. I know that’s a lot, but Jrue would fit our team perfectly. If that trade goes through, then we would have enough money to pursue a stretch 4 or another wing.

[Daddy 801]

Randle declined his PO. I’m still interested in him. I know the front office has a love for Favors (as do I), but he has one year left and Randle seems like a better fit long term.

Hell I’d sign him and still keep Favs for a year if that’s the best talent upgrade we can get. We would be the odd team out even more by all our highest paid players as bigs.

We would have a true 48 mins off stud play at the C and PF positions. Not ideal, but I can think if worse things.

Favs could get 16 mins a night at center and 10-12 at PF. Pretty much what he gets now, but against even more second unit guys. If he and Ingles can become our main second unit guys, they would dominate.

That, or trade Favs for a Guard/Wing. Probably the better fit.

[Calhamid94]

Randle declined his PO. I’m still interested in him. I know the front office has a love for Favors (as do I), but he has one year left and Randle seems like a better fit long term.

Hell I’d sign him and still keep Favs for a year if that’s the best talent upgrade we can get. We would be the odd team out even more by all our highest paid players as bigs.

We would have a true 48 mins off stud play at the C and PF positions. Not ideal, but I can think if worse things.

Favs could get 16 mins a night at center and 10-12 at PF. Pretty much what he gets now, but against even more second unit guys. If he and Ingles can become our main second unit guys, they would dominate.

That, or trade Favs for a Guard/Wing. Probably the better fit.

Randle and a new PG could improve our team by a lot. Randle had a great season with the pelicans last year, and he’s still very young. There would be more upside to signing randle and letting favors go. If we were able to get Randle for a decent amount and decline Favors contract, we should still have enough to go after DLO. Or we could sign and trade favors for a PG.

[Daddy 801]

Can the Jazz trade Thabo and Korver (if he retires this season) around draft time? Use their salary as filler on a trade?