Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed

[WindyCityBorn]

I won't feel better until draft night is over. Might need to restart the fire GarPax movement again if they make any of the dumb ass trades rumored or anything similar. Only major move I think is worth looking at is clearing cap space to sign Russell.

[Ugly Duckling]

Apparently a Lakers "insider" said they're considering using the Bulls to facilitate the AD trade

Bulls would get the 4th pick, Lonzo and take on Solomon Hill's bad contract
Pelicans would get LaVine, the 7th pick, Kuzma, Lakers' 2020 unprotected first rd pick and Hart
Lakers would get AD

I didn't like it at first, but after thinking about it, it kinda makes sense. We could take Garland with the 4th pick and pair him with Lonzo in the backcourt. Lonzo could guard the opposing SG, so it would work. Garland seems like more of a scorer as well (at least from the limited tape on him) and Lonzo could cover some of his defensive shortcomings. Or maybe the Knicks are feeling freaky and take Garland at 3. Then we get Barrett, who could potentially develop into a better SG than LaVine. If we just got the 4th pick we wouldn't have to make this trade, but that's the way the cookie crumbled

[sco]

Apparently a Lakers "insider" said they're considering using the Bulls to facilitate the AD trade

Bulls would get the 4th pick, Lonzo and take on Solomon Hill's bad contract
Pelicans would get LaVine, the 7th pick, Kuzma, Lakers' 2020 unprotected first rd pick and Hart
Lakers would get AD

I didn't like it at first, but after thinking about it, it kinda makes sense. We could take Garland with the 4th pick and pair him with Lonzo in the backcourt. Lonzo could guard the opposing SG, so it would work. Garland seems like more of a scorer as well (at least from the limited tape on him) and Lonzo could cover some of his defensive shortcomings. Or maybe the Knicks are feeling freaky and take Garland at 3. Then we get Barrett, who could potentially develop into a better SG than LaVine. If we just got the 4th pick we wouldn't have to make this trade, but that's the way the cookie crumbled

Here's the thing...Fans (and some FO's) can't forget their pre-NBA assessments of players. So many guys have gotten way too many chances because they were great against college players - DESPITE SHOWING FATAL FLAWS IN THE NBA. That's Ball. He can't shoot, and NOBODY EVER HAS BECOME A GOOD SHOOTER WITH A SHOT LIKE HIS. Not to mention his injury history added to that. Trading for Ball just flies in the face of common sense.

I understand the infatuation with the deal is Culver at 4. I don't see it. He lacks an outside shot too.

I am putting a lot of mental energy out there to stop this deal...

[Axolotl]

Apparently a Lakers "insider" said they're considering using the Bulls to facilitate the AD trade

Bulls would get the 4th pick, Lonzo and take on Solomon Hill's bad contract
Pelicans would get LaVine, the 7th pick, Kuzma, Lakers' 2020 unprotected first rd pick and Hart
Lakers would get AD

I didn't like it at first, but after thinking about it, it kinda makes sense.

It doesn't make sense, and it's not going to happen, because it doesn't make sense.

The Bulls would send out a future all-star for the 4th pick in a two player draft. The Bulls would then send out the 7th pick for a PG who can't and never will be able to shoot. And on top of that the Bulls would swallow Hill's 13 million contract.

Nah, not going to happen.

[patryk7754]

with all the injuries the Warriors suffered, I think the path to being a champion will be wide open next season (especially if the Lakers don't get AD). So here's my idea of how the Bulls can get into the mix

Trade 1
OPJ, Felicio, Carter Jr, the 7th and 2021 1st for AD

Trade 2
Dunn, Valentin, and Blakeney to the Suns
Hutchinson, top 20 protected 1st from suns, 2 2nds from the bulls to the Nets
LeVert to the Bulls

After these trades we have roughly 54 mil in cap

Sign Pat Bev 3/21
Sign D Rose 1/10
Sign Tobias Harris 4/100
Sign Taj 1/10
Sign Tyson Chandler 1/2
Sign Danny Green MLE

Bev/Rose
Lavine/Green
Tobias/Levert
Lauri/Taj
Davis/Chandler

[jump]

Another Laker insider said that the Bulls are trying to get Jrue Holiday from the Pelicans for the #7 and change. It's just that the Pels want us to include WCJ or Lavine, and Pax won't have it.

[Axolotl]

Another Laker insider said that the Bulls are trying to get Jrue Holiday from the Pelicans for the #7 and change. It's just that the Pels want us to include WCJ or Lavine, and Pax won't have it.

That seems like a rather large valuation gap. WCJ in this draft wouldn't be available at #7.

[MeloRoseNoah]

Well, Griffin can go suck a bag of bricks then. They luck into Zion, but they are still going to waste the best years of his prime, just like they did with CP3 and AD.

I would hold firm on my demands if I'm GarPax. At the end of the day, a really good player is going to be available at #7. LOL at WCJ/Lavine + #7 for Jrue Holiday. Jrue Holiday is a 17-19 PER player who's at 28 yo and is being paid at 25-28 mil per year. Meanwhile, Lavine is a 17-19 PER player at this moment at 23 yo who's being paid at about 20 mil per year.

[sco]

Well, Griffin can go suck a bag of bricks then. They luck into Zion, but they are still going to waste the best years of his prime, just like they did with CP3 and AD.

I would hold firm on my demands if I'm GarPax. At the end of the day, a really good player is going to be available at #7. LOL at WCJ/Lavine + #7 for Jrue Holiday. Jrue Holiday is a 17-19 PER player who's at 28 yo and is being paid at 25-28 mil per year. Meanwhile, Lavine is a 17-19 PER player at this moment at 23 yo who's being paid at about 20 mil per year.

I'm with you! NO is the team under the time gun. Once the draft happens, they lose a lot of flexibility.

[MeloRoseNoah]

Well, Griffin can go suck a bag of bricks then. They luck into Zion, but they are still going to waste the best years of his prime, just like they did with CP3 and AD.

I would hold firm on my demands if I'm GarPax. At the end of the day, a really good player is going to be available at #7. LOL at WCJ/Lavine + #7 for Jrue Holiday. Jrue Holiday is a 17-19 PER player who's at 28 yo and is being paid at 25-28 mil per year. Meanwhile, Lavine is a 17-19 PER player at this moment at 23 yo who's being paid at about 20 mil per year.

I'm with you! NO is the team under the time gun. Once the draft happens, they lose a lot of flexibility.

Yup, Griffin better stops playing around.

If there's a trade to be made, it will happen in the next 48 hrs. Griffin needs a few extra days to bring in guys for workouts and finalize his draft board. Otherwise, it's going to be a crap fest. Ainge and NY Knicks aren't seriously about an AD trade, so it's literally just the Lakers.

[Ugly Duckling]

I'm actually relieved the trade went through w/o us. As much as I like Lonzo's game in relation to our roster (elite court vision, rebounding, defense), his shot does scare me as does the idea of hearing about his dad on a regular basis. I also don't think there's much of a difference in terms of talent between the 4th pick and the 7th pick this yr. Phew

[Threekola]

There’s nothing crazy to be done. If there’s a guy you love in the draft like Garland then go get him. Or if White is your guy go get him. GarPax are idiots but their only skill is making draft picks, so I’ll roll with their judgment on that.

If you get a future point guard I’m more inclined to max Brogdon. He can be a starter for a few years, play a ton of minutes being an elite back-up to both guard spots if the point guard we draft is good enough to take his spot.

If you get a wing, I’d try to max D’Angelo. Play it out this year and see where you’re at.

[Butler4thewin]

Well, Griffin can go suck a bag of bricks then. They luck into Zion, but they are still going to waste the best years of his prime, just like they did with CP3 and AD.

I would hold firm on my demands if I'm GarPax. At the end of the day, a really good player is going to be available at #7. LOL at WCJ/Lavine + #7 for Jrue Holiday. Jrue Holiday is a 17-19 PER player who's at 28 yo and is being paid at 25-28 mil per year. Meanwhile, Lavine is a 17-19 PER player at this moment at 23 yo who's being paid at about 20 mil per year.

Wait where did you hear that?

[Butler4thewin]

There’s nothing crazy to be done. If there’s a guy you love in the draft like Garland then go get him. Or if White is your guy go get him. GarPax are idiots but their only skill is making draft picks, so I’ll roll with their judgment on that.

If you get a future point guard I’m more inclined to max Brogdon. He can be a starter for a few years, play a ton of minutes being an elite back-up to both guard spots if the point guard we draft is good enough to take his spot.
Yea agree with this
If you get a wing, I’d try to max D’Angelo. Play it out this year and see where you’re at.

[realEAST]

One post AD idea, with Pelicans:

B. Ingram, #4
for
W. Carter, #7

We move up for Garland and get Ingram who has a pretty high ceiling and has been playing great prior to injury, but has suffered pretty unpleasant injury - apparently, he should make a complete recovery and the probability of clot returning is much lower than in Bosh's case, but still far from ideal.
Play Markk at C, but sign someone like Dedmon for year or two.

Pels get long term C they lack and who fits well, move back in Draft hoping for Hunter or Culver, but getting Doumboya would be fine as well imo.

[ILC]

Hi guys, I come in peace. Just a quick question - any chance Bulls would consider trading Markkanen any time soon? Is he considered a future star, would they demand a huge package?

[logical_art]

Hi guys, I come in peace. Just a quick question - any chance Bulls would consider trading Markkanen any time soon? Is he considered a future star, would they demand a huge package?

What are you offering?

[MeloRoseNoah]

One post AD idea, with Pelicans:

B. Ingram, #4
for
W. Carter, #7

We move up for Garland and get Ingram who has a pretty high ceiling and has been playing great prior to injury, but has suffered pretty unpleasant injury - apparently, he should make a complete recovery and the probability of clot returning is much lower than in Bosh's case, but still far from ideal.
Play Markk at C, but sign someone like Dedmon for year or two.

Pels get long term C they lack and who fits well, move back in Draft hoping for Hunter or Culver, but getting Doumboya would be fine as well imo.

No deal. WCJ is a younger and better basketball player than Ingram with two extra years of cheap service. The Pelicans can take their #4 pick and draft whoever they want. We're in a good spot at #7.

[drosereturn]

Hi guys, I come in peace. Just a quick question - any chance Bulls would consider trading Markkanen any time soon? Is he considered a future star, would they demand a huge package?

Hes untouchable as Zion. You would have to offer Zion's equivalent to touch Lauri.
I know thats a ridiculous price for someone who hasnt produced a lot, but the potential is a lot closer to Dirk.

[ILC]

Hi guys, I come in peace. Just a quick question - any chance Bulls would consider trading Markkanen any time soon? Is he considered a future star, would they demand a huge package?

What are you offering?

I have no clue lol

That's why I'm asking. Idk what is his status with you guys, is he considered a future star in the making or a nice player but not a star??

Would Robert Williams and all 3 Celtics firsts in this draft be anywhere close? Rozier S&T?