VCfor3 wrote:Karmaloop wrote:VCfor3 wrote:Yes we went from 4+Ingram+Ball as a weak package to saying you guys got killed due to including most of your youth as well as involving most of your 1sts moving forward. I don't understand why it is hard to see why our stance on the overall package changed while our valuation of the individual parts did not. Though maybe an overpay, it still sets LAL for a potential title run so I'm not saying it won't be worth it. Those picks could end up being late and the swaps not exercised so only time will tell who won this deal (likely both teams).
Most of our youth? The only other young guy we threw in was Josh Hart. I mean, the only other young guys the Lakers had were Kyle Kuzma, Mo Wagner, and Isaac Bonga. The latter two have no value at all. If Ingram/Ball/4 is a weak package, I'm not sure how adding Hart really changes that unless you think Hart is more than a good 3&D wing. The picks are the biggest question mark, which is why I think it's asinine to say the Lakers got killed until we see how the Lakers use their cap space this offseason. IF the Lakers are able to land a premier FA to pair with LeBron and Anthony Davis, those picks are borderline worthless. And one title is worth futility for the next decade. You think Toronto has any regrets about making the Kawhi Leonard trade?
Toronto didn't really give up a ton for Kawhi.
And going from Ingram/Ball/4 to a package that also includes Hart, two additional 1sts, and two pick swaps with some coming after LBJ's contract ends is a pretty size-able jump.
Definitely. Those future picks might have more value then Lonzo/4/BI.