Woj: Anthony Davis Traded to Lakers for Brandon Ingram, Lonzo Ball, Josh Hart, & Three 1st Rnd Picks - including #4

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Re: Woj: Anthony Davis Traded to Lakers for Brandon Ingram, Lonzo Ball, Josh Hart, & Three 1st Rnd Picks - including #4 

Post#921 » by BallSacBounce » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:17 am

ShazamDaShiznt wrote:
Young Stapler wrote:Many of you said that the Lakers young guys were crap. If the Lakers had struck out in free agency along with not getting AD we wouldn't hear the end of the dumpster fire comments. The Lakers have put themselves in a position to win a title. Both teams win in this deal in the sense that their short term goals will be met. We don't know what will happen with the Pelicans picks but RIGHT NOW both teams get what they want.


Exactly, dudes laughing at lakers because they want them to fail. You can't just trade AD for nothing, dude is one of the best players in the league. Ingram has bloodcloths, lonzo is a big injury prone, that 4th pick is right outside of top 3 where the best talent is, but dudes acting like lakers gave up way too much. ALL these players combined won't equal to what AD brings to the table.

Lakers were bidding against themselves, lmao. Good job giving up your future the next 6 freaking years for a guy who won't even commit till the end of the season. Can't get any dumber.
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Post#922 » by Raps in 4 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:21 am

ShazamDaShiznt wrote:
Young Stapler wrote:Many of you said that the Lakers young guys were crap. If the Lakers had struck out in free agency along with not getting AD we wouldn't hear the end of the dumpster fire comments. The Lakers have put themselves in a position to win a title. Both teams win in this deal in the sense that their short term goals will be met. We don't know what will happen with the Pelicans picks but RIGHT NOW both teams get what they want.


Exactly, dudes laughing at lakers because they want them to fail. You can't just trade AD for nothing, dude is one of the best players in the league. Ingram has bloodcloths, lonzo is a big injury prone, that 4th pick is right outside of top 3 where the best talent is, but dudes acting like lakers gave up way too much. ALL these players combined won't equal to what AD brings to the table.


Raptors traded for Kawhi:

- Derozan - overpaid fringe all-star
- Purtle - former #9 pick and #2 or 3 prospect in the organisation
- Late 1st round pick

Lakers traded for AD:

- Ball - former #2 pick and organisation's #1 or 2 prospect
- Ingram - former #2 pick and organisation's #1 or 2 prospect
- Hart - middling prospect
- #4 pick
- Top-8 protected pick/unprotected future pick
- Unprotected future pick
- Pick swap
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Post#923 » by JoseRizal » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:25 am

Lakers had leverage since AD agent was adamant that he’ll only be signing with them. Surprised with haul the Pelicans got. New Orleans is the winner here in my book.
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Post#924 » by Young gun 6 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:25 am

Raps in 4 wrote:Raptors traded for Kawhi:

- Derozan - overpaid fringe all-star
- Purtle - former #9 pick and #2 or 3 prospect in the organisation
- Late 1st round pick

Lakers traded for AD:

- Ball - former #2 pick and organisation's #1 or 2 prospect
- Ingram - former #2 pick and organisation's #1 or 2 prospect
- Hart - middling prospect
- #4 pick
- 2 lightly protected/unprotected future first round picks + pick swap


Don't forget the throw in of Danny Green too !

Tbf though Kuzma probably equal to the other two prospects so should be #1/2 or 3 of 3 prospects for the first two line items.
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Post#925 » by JellosJigglin » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:27 am

Pels are now my 2nd favorite team in the league. I grew a bit attached to these young guys over the years and went to bat for them against the haters. Watching them develop was both a frustrating exercise in patience :banghead: and a dad-like sense of pride :cry: . I know this last season playing with Lebron took a toll on them and they're probably relieved to get a fresh start. Most of you have no clue how good they really are. The Lakers overpaid but that's what it takes to get a player like AD.

Pelicans fans, trust me when I say this but you don't realize how lucky you are. Lonzo is a quiet, humble, unselfish dude. He plays winning, unselfish basketball and doesn't give 2 **** about his numbers. He's going to be a perennial all-defensive player. I've always called him the Draymond Green of point guards. He isn't your protoypical PG who handles the ball, but a ball-mover who plays hot potato and allows your stars to shine. He's the rising tide that lifts all boats. He's a straight up maestro in the open court. The noise surrounding him is literally all Lavar and he's just a clown with no real power.

Ingram has a Kawhi-like personality in that he's quiet off-court but his game is all business. He was the only player who was unaffected by all the trade rumors. In fact he stepped up and played like an all-star (27/6/6 in the last ~14 games before injury on high efficiency). His defense also looked elite at times. See the highlights when he switched onto Kyrie. I'm willing to bet he's going to be the better player between Tatum. It hurts to lose him.

Hart is a big-time role player. I used to call him "the wall" because he'd switch onto a big man in the paint and they had no chance of backing him down. It was hilarious to watch them when they thought they could take advantage of a smaller player. See David West's comments about how he knew it was time to retire when he couldn't back down Hart. We affectionately called him Josh Barkley on Lakersground because he's a fantastic rebounder for a guard. He will give you 40% shooting from 3. That's what he shot last season and this season up until late December when he had a knee issue. His shooting tanked after that. I'm confident after a summer of rehabbing he'll be one of the best 3/D players in the league. Similar game to Danny Green, except his perimeter defense is bad and his post defense is excellent.

Of course, this is all without mentioning the picks. Damn, I'm really going to miss those guys and will be rooting for them. Now that they're no longer wearing Laker jerseys people will really start to appreciate their talents more. Pels have a bright future. I don't like the games their front office played but the players have nothing to do with that. I think the Pels have the best young team in the NBA and they're going to be fun as hell to watch with Lonzo pushing the tempo. Congrats and good luck to you guys.
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Post#926 » by ShazamDaShiznt » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:36 am

People writing essays on how ingram, lonzo and hart are great players after making fun of them all year long :lol: realgm never change

oh yeah now that they are traded ingram about to become the next kevin durant and lonzo bout to have prime jason kidd type of impact, pelicans are heavy title favourites in a year or two. THEY SCARED NOW!
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Post#927 » by ShazamDaShiznt » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:38 am

Raps in 4 wrote:
ShazamDaShiznt wrote:
Young Stapler wrote:Many of you said that the Lakers young guys were crap. If the Lakers had struck out in free agency along with not getting AD we wouldn't hear the end of the dumpster fire comments. The Lakers have put themselves in a position to win a title. Both teams win in this deal in the sense that their short term goals will be met. We don't know what will happen with the Pelicans picks but RIGHT NOW both teams get what they want.


Exactly, dudes laughing at lakers because they want them to fail. You can't just trade AD for nothing, dude is one of the best players in the league. Ingram has bloodcloths, lonzo is a big injury prone, that 4th pick is right outside of top 3 where the best talent is, but dudes acting like lakers gave up way too much. ALL these players combined won't equal to what AD brings to the table.


Raptors traded for Kawhi:

- Derozan - overpaid fringe all-star
- Purtle - former #9 pick and #2 or 3 prospect in the organisation
- Late 1st round pick

Lakers traded for AD:

- Ball - former #2 pick and organisation's #1 or 2 prospect
- Ingram - former #2 pick and organisation's #1 or 2 prospect
- Hart - middling prospect
- #4 pick
- Top-8 protected pick/unprotected future pick
- Unprotected future pick
- Pick swap


Raptors robbed spurs, Ujiri is a great GM. That don't mean that every superstar that wants to get out of his team gonna get traded for that cheap. Pop got so mad he was having dinner with Kerr before finals snitching him all kinds of details :lol:
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Post#928 » by Richard Miller » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:44 am

Wow, Lakers actually gutted their team because 35 LBJ told them to do so, and some think they will own the league now. Good luck with that, would be freakin' hilarious if Pelicans end up with more wins. :lol:
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Post#929 » by Myth_Breaker » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:56 am

Hooray! :D Even better news than GSW spoilt divas being dethroned by brave Raptors - my Lakers obtaining freakin' Anthony Davis without even giving up Kuzma (so we've got 3 starters already, need only 2 more and better bench)! Now get someone like Butler or Kemba and some 3 and D role players and we're definitely back in the game, again over the fading Warriors and their obnoxious fans! :lol: We've been telling you all along, Lakers/LeBron haters, that we will back again soon - and who's triumphant now? Us! :D

P.S. And where is your warchest of assets now, Danny Ainge, where? I'll tell you: it went to naught since you've wasted all chances to acquire a real superstar and it's all over now for your treadmill team in the foreseeable future! ;-)
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Post#930 » by Middle Child » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:39 am

Lakers likely miss on the free agent Guards(Kyrie, Kemba and Butler) and go after CP3 with Kuzma as the only viable option?

5- AD
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LeBron/CP3 would be ball movement heaven if they both commit to it and having one of them on the court at all times will at least allow LA to control pace all game. Age is a concern but if managed properly they’ll be fine.

Paul’s talents are being wasted currently, LeBron shouldn’t want to handle the entire offense at this stage in his career.
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Post#931 » by Zerostatic » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:49 am

Karmaloop wrote:
VCBC wrote:Unprotected FRPs are gold if you haven't noticed by this year's lottery.

Pure value wise, Griffin pulled a heist. Taking into potential chips, that's up to the Lakers' fanbase.


Ask the Knicks how their worst record turned out for them? Or the Cavaliers? or the Suns? They all fell multiple spots.

That’s the point. The odds have been flattened and now the first 4 picks are up for grabs instead of 3. So the value of future first round picks has gone up. We’re going to see what happened this year happen more often with teams moving up. So if the Lakers have any issues in the next 6 years (injury, chemistry, etc.) that just missed the playoffs record of 40-42 or 38-44 has a better shot at winning the lottery and being a high pick.
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Post#932 » by Showdown » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:50 am

Pelicans got bunch of non shooter to surround non shooting forward Zion with them and picks are only thing that could save them. This looks like Lakers-Memphis trade all over again .
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Post#933 » by Gooner » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:54 am

Showdown wrote:Pelicans got bunch of non shooter to surround non shooting forward Zion with them and picks are only thing that could save them. This looks like Lakers-Memphis trade all over again .


I think they will play Zion at center. For today's game, he would be great at that position.
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Post#934 » by Showdown » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:58 am

Gooner wrote:
Showdown wrote:Pelicans got bunch of non shooter to surround non shooting forward Zion with them and picks are only thing that could save them. This looks like Lakers-Memphis trade all over again .


I think they will play Zion at center. For today's game, he would be great at that position.

He is too short for that and experiments with Randle, Tucker and Jarret Allen proved that
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Post#935 » by Doug_12 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:59 am

Gooner wrote:
Showdown wrote:Pelicans got bunch of non shooter to surround non shooting forward Zion with them and picks are only thing that could save them. This looks like Lakers-Memphis trade all over again .


I think they will play Zion at center. For today's game, he would be great at that position.

w/ having the same height as Kobe?
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Post#936 » by JayMKE » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:00 am

Lonzo, Ingram, Hart are not very good. RealGM overrates future draft picks a lot.Lakers laughing all the way to the bank.
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Post#937 » by Gooner » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:01 am

Showdown wrote:
Gooner wrote:
Showdown wrote:Pelicans got bunch of non shooter to surround non shooting forward Zion with them and picks are only thing that could save them. This looks like Lakers-Memphis trade all over again .


I think they will play Zion at center. For today's game, he would be great at that position.

He is too short for that and experiments with Randle, Tucker and Jarret Allen proved that


Jarett Allen is not short. Zion has great verticality and shot blocking ability. He can be that Draymond type of center. He is very strong, so it makes up for his lack of height. For tdoay's game, it's not really a mismatch.
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Post#938 » by Spens1 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:03 am

jpengland wrote:Christ, the Lakers are now thin.

AD, an ageing LeBron, Kuzma, Bonga and Wagner with no picks for 6 years.


They will likely target another star.

Then its essentially minimum guys. Once Kuzma gets a raise its tax payer MLE only each year and no trade assets to find other routes


We'll have the MLE for this year, the full 10 mill, so we can get a good S.G/P.G (whoever isn't signed with our max) so that opens up some good opportunities.
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Post#939 » by Spens1 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:07 am

jwise44 wrote:Please kemba don’t go to LA


and stay in Charlotte and waste his prime, he needs to get out of there ASAP (whether its to us or not).
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Post#940 » by Showdown » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:11 am

Gooner wrote:
Showdown wrote:
Gooner wrote:
I think they will play Zion at center. For today's game, he would be great at that position.

He is too short for that and experiments with Randle, Tucker and Jarret Allen proved that


Jarett Allen is not short. Zion has great verticality and shot blocking ability. He can be that Draymond type of center. He is very strong, so it makes up for his lack of height. For tdoay's game, it's not really a mismatch.

Even Green struggle against bigger centers and Green is bigger and has better wingspan and standing reach

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