Patrick1978 wrote:
What do you mean?
I mean if he saves the team from spending $120M+ dollars from not resigning Vuc...
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Patrick1978 wrote:
What do you mean?
Skin wrote:PrimeThyme wrote:Skin wrote:My Top 10 for our draft range:
1. Cam Reddish - Future All-Star potential
2. Matisse Thybulle - Game changing 3 and D player
3. Kevin Porter Jr - Could be great, average or bust
4. Nickeil Alexander-Walker - Jack of all trades, master of none
5. Tyler Herro - T-Rex shooter, who I like, but I don't think he fits the WeHam mold.
6. Romeo Langford - Not a fan but is at least an attempt to fill a need
7. Mfiondu Kabengele - Depth pick if Isaac stays at SF
8. Bol Bol - If Vuc is let go...
9. Bruno Fernando - If Vuc is let go...
10. Keldon Johnson - Nice physicality, but I don't see an upgrade over Isaac at SF
Do you attribute a lot of Cam Reddish's shooting struggles to the injury? Or are you just not concerned about it.
I just think he's young and still learning how to put it all together. I love everything about his combination of size, athleticism, shot mechanics, handle, bbiq, character...
All he needs is time and a coach who won't let his motor quit because I really feel like he has legit All star components.
Side note: Reddish and Bamba played on the same high school team. Would be cool to see them reunited.
PrimeThyme wrote:Skin wrote:PrimeThyme wrote:Do you attribute a lot of Cam Reddish's shooting struggles to the injury? Or are you just not concerned about it.
I just think he's young and still learning how to put it all together. I love everything about his combination of size, athleticism, shot mechanics, handle, bbiq, character...
All he needs is time and a coach who won't let his motor quit because I really feel like he has legit All star components.
Side note: Reddish and Bamba played on the same high school team. Would be cool to see them reunited.
I think Reddish has to be very high on Weltman's big board. He does provide a lot of things you suggested and I think another big part of his poor fg% was the sheer amount of 3's he took last year. 7.4 of his 12 attempts were 3 pointers and he still shot a decent enough percentage on those 3's. His ft% gives me hope he can improve there as well.
If we were to move up in this draft Id want it to be for a guy like Reddish if he dropped past the top 7. I think Culver/Hunter are top 7 locks and that the asking price to move up for one of those two would be too high. Reddish could be had at a bargain though imo depending on how the night goes.
I do not, however, think there is a scenario where he falls to us or even past 10-12 which is why I did not include him in the poll. We would have to move up to get him.
spinedoc wrote:drsd wrote:RookieStar wrote:Get me a shooter not an athlete.spinedoc wrote:What we need is a Herro, I'm holding out for one, lol. Outside shooting is what we lack.
I like Alexander-Walker over Herro, as Alexander-Walker projects to be a deter defender. Alexander-Walker is a classic 3-and-D player, and after we saw how incredible Danny Green was for the Raptors, the Magic could really use that kind of player.
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I'd be okay with that, I like him. I like Keldon Johnson too, and my dark horse is Windler. The guy carried Belmont on his back this year. A lot of depth for what we need actually.
Edit: Also, Herro reminds me of Mike Miller.
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:Is now the right time to tell em that NAW has a better 3 point % than Herro. They both were used differently but shot almost the same amount of 3’s.
NAW in 34 games went 58-155 @ 37.4% on 4.6 3PA
Herro in 37 games went 60-169 @ 35.5% on 4.6 3PA
Oh an NAW was 58 of 148 @ 39% his freshman year.
spinedoc wrote:Edit: Also, Herro reminds me of Mike Miller.
To me free throw percentage is a good indicator as well, what's NAW free throw percentage?MartinsIzAfraud wrote:drsd wrote:RookieStar wrote:Get me a shooter not an athlete.spinedoc wrote:What we need is a Herro, I'm holding out for one, lol. Outside shooting is what we lack.
I like Alexander-Walker over Herro, as Alexander-Walker projects to be a deter defender. Alexander-Walker is a classic 3-and-D player, and after we saw how incredible Danny Green was for the Raptors, the Magic could really use that kind of player.
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Is now the right time to tell em that NAW has a better 3 point % than Herro. They both were used differently but shot almost the same amount of 3’s.
NAW in 34 games went 58-155 @ 37.4% on 4.6 3PA
Herro in 37 games went 60-169 @ 35.5% on 4.6 3PA
Oh an NAW was 58 of 148 @ 39% his freshman year.
Skin wrote:PrimeThyme wrote:Skin wrote:I just think he's young and still learning how to put it all together. I love everything about his combination of size, athleticism, shot mechanics, handle, bbiq, character...
All he needs is time and a coach who won't let his motor quit because I really feel like he has legit All star components.
Side note: Reddish and Bamba played on the same high school team. Would be cool to see them reunited.
I think Reddish has to be very high on Weltman's big board. He does provide a lot of things you suggested and I think another big part of his poor fg% was the sheer amount of 3's he took last year. 7.4 of his 12 attempts were 3 pointers and he still shot a decent enough percentage on those 3's. His ft% gives me hope he can improve there as well.
If we were to move up in this draft Id want it to be for a guy like Reddish if he dropped past the top 7. I think Culver/Hunter are top 7 locks and that the asking price to move up for one of those two would be too high. Reddish could be had at a bargain though imo depending on how the night goes.
I do not, however, think there is a scenario where he falls to us or even past 10-12 which is why I did not include him in the poll. We would have to move up to get him.
I would give up 16 and next year's first. Atl might take that offer up.
I think he's got McGrady written all over him.
A group of Reddish, Isaac, Gordon, Bamba and cap space is sure to attract a top FA PG.
tiderulz wrote:Skin wrote:PrimeThyme wrote:I think Reddish has to be very high on Weltman's big board. He does provide a lot of things you suggested and I think another big part of his poor fg% was the sheer amount of 3's he took last year. 7.4 of his 12 attempts were 3 pointers and he still shot a decent enough percentage on those 3's. His ft% gives me hope he can improve there as well.
If we were to move up in this draft Id want it to be for a guy like Reddish if he dropped past the top 7. I think Culver/Hunter are top 7 locks and that the asking price to move up for one of those two would be too high. Reddish could be had at a bargain though imo depending on how the night goes.
I do not, however, think there is a scenario where he falls to us or even past 10-12 which is why I did not include him in the poll. We would have to move up to get him.
I would give up 16 and next year's first. Atl might take that offer up.
I think he's got McGrady written all over him.
A group of Reddish, Isaac, Gordon, Bamba and cap space is sure to attract a top FA PG.
maybe in a few years. Right now, the game looks too big offensively for Isaac, Bamba cant stay healthy and Reddish was the 3rd ranked recruit coming out of HS and had a lackluster year.
Solid Snake wrote:For me right now.......
My personal hope for #16: Porter Jr.
The safe choice: NAW
Wouldn't be mad at: Herro or Little
Porter Jr to me has a lot of potential to be a creator off the bench or possibly more, high potential to me.
NAW is solid all around which makes him to me the safe choice, does a lot of things well but not any one thing great.
Herro is a scorer plain and simple, shouldn't expect defense out of him but he shouldn't be a liability either.
Little has come around for me, saw some footage recently that made me realize his ball handling and shooting was a little under sold to me. Add the athleticism and defense and length wouldn't be mad if little was the guy.
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Skin wrote:tiderulz wrote:Skin wrote:I would give up 16 and next year's first. Atl might take that offer up.
I think he's got McGrady written all over him.
A group of Reddish, Isaac, Gordon, Bamba and cap space is sure to attract a top FA PG.
maybe in a few years. Right now, the game looks too big offensively for Isaac, Bamba cant stay healthy and Reddish was the 3rd ranked recruit coming out of HS and had a lackluster year.
We have no business worrying about the right now. Just groom, develop and compete hard.
tiderulz wrote:Skin wrote:tiderulz wrote:maybe in a few years. Right now, the game looks too big offensively for Isaac, Bamba cant stay healthy and Reddish was the 3rd ranked recruit coming out of HS and had a lackluster year.
We have no business worrying about the right now. Just groom, develop and compete hard.
i completely agree. but we are also not attractive to any top FA now or the near future
To me free throw percentage is a good indicator as well, what's NAW free throw percentage?[/quote]Solid Snake wrote:Oh an NAW was 58 of 148 @ 39% his freshman year.
PrimeThyme wrote:Skin wrote:My Top 10 for our draft range:
1. Cam Reddish - Future All-Star potential
2. Matisse Thybulle - Game changing 3 and D player
3. Kevin Porter Jr - Could be great, average or bust
4. Nickeil Alexander-Walker - Jack of all trades, master of none
5. Tyler Herro - T-Rex shooter, who I like, but I don't think he fits the WeHam mold.
6. Romeo Langford - Not a fan but is at least an attempt to fill a need
7. Mfiondu Kabengele - Depth pick if Isaac stays at SF
8. Bol Bol - If Vuc is let go...
9. Bruno Fernando - If Vuc is let go...
10. Keldon Johnson - Nice physicality, but I don't see an upgrade over Isaac at SF
Do you attribute a lot of Cam Reddish's shooting struggles to the injury? Or are you just not concerned about it.
Skin wrote:PrimeThyme wrote:Skin wrote:I just think he's young and still learning how to put it all together. I love everything about his combination of size, athleticism, shot mechanics, handle, bbiq, character...
All he needs is time and a coach who won't let his motor quit because I really feel like he has legit All star components.
Side note: Reddish and Bamba played on the same high school team. Would be cool to see them reunited.
I think Reddish has to be very high on Weltman's big board. He does provide a lot of things you suggested and I think another big part of his poor fg% was the sheer amount of 3's he took last year. 7.4 of his 12 attempts were 3 pointers and he still shot a decent enough percentage on those 3's. His ft% gives me hope he can improve there as well.
If we were to move up in this draft Id want it to be for a guy like Reddish if he dropped past the top 7. I think Culver/Hunter are top 7 locks and that the asking price to move up for one of those two would be too high. Reddish could be had at a bargain though imo depending on how the night goes.
I do not, however, think there is a scenario where he falls to us or even past 10-12 which is why I did not include him in the poll. We would have to move up to get him.
I would give up 16 and next year's first. Atl might take that offer up.
I think he's got McGrady written all over him.
A group of Reddish, Isaac, Gordon, Bamba and cap space is sure to attract a top FA PG.
Solid Snake wrote:For me right now.......
My personal hope for #16: Porter Jr.
The safe choice: NAW
Wouldn't be mad at: Herro or Little
Porter Jr to me has a lot of potential to be a creator off the bench or possibly more, high potential to me.
NAW is solid all around which makes him to me the safe choice, does a lot of things well but not any one thing great.
Herro is a scorer plain and simple, shouldn't expect defense out of him but he shouldn't be a liability either.
Little has come around for me, saw some footage recently that made me realize his ball handling and shooting was a little under sold to me. Add the athleticism and defense and length wouldn't be mad if little was the guy.
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