2019 Draft Discussion

[Liver_Pooty]

Im willing to take a risk on Bol at 12.

[driveandkick]

I don’t hate Clarke as a prospect. He’s gonna be a fun, high energy player that will be a great defender. He’s just way too situational.

We aren’t in a position to draft a guy like that right now. We’ve gotta take someone that has some potential as a scorer imo

[Lwcasu]

Im willing to take a risk on Bol at 12.

I’m glad I’m not the only one. Can’t believe people are so negative on him. By far the biggest risk reward but the reward could be a diamond.

[Lwcasu]

I don’t hate Clarke as a prospect. He’s gonna be a fun, high energy player that will be a great defender. He’s just way too situational.

We aren’t in a position to draft a guy like that right now. We’ve gotta take someone that has some potential as a scorer imo

I agree even though I like him as a prospect. Bol Bol is who I’m most hyped about but Clarke isn’t a bad pick. Hed be everything we expected with MKG but better.

Like you said the big problem with taking Clarke is we’d be very dependent on
Either Bacon or Bridges developing as a solid 20 ppg guy. I’ve lost all hope in Monk so not gonna lump him I. There. Probably one of my favorite all time college players too. Would like to be pleasantly surprised.

Pj would be good too.

[Lwcasu]

I've cooled off a bit on Romeo Langford. I still like him as a value prospect but NAW has moved above him as my top wing prospect in the 12-25 range.

I'm warming up more to Grant Williams and still really like Goga. I like PJ Washington too but he seems a lot less likely to be available in the late 1st. Grant in the in the late 1st seems better value than PJ at 12-14.

I'm still on the trade back and or/consolidate future 2nds plan and the three guys I want are NAW + Goga + Grant Williams. I think Boston at 14/20/22 could be the ideal trade partner. Try to trade a package centered around 12 for 14 + 20 or 22 and then use some other assets (2020 CLE 2nd for example) to move back into the early 2nd or late 1st.


I really, really, don't like either of the Gonazaga prospects.

Kemba/Monk/Graham
Bacon/NAW
Miles/Batum
Marv/MKG/Grant
Cody/Frank/Goga/Biz

I like the idea of loading up on young talent and using next season as a development year where they don't necessarily try to go all in on a deep playoff run immediately, but rather try to be competitive and make the playoffs, which shouldn't be difficult as a low seed, while transitioning to a youth movement and setting up to be a real threat after next season when Marv/MKG/Batum/Cody start to come off the books. Even if you don't like the specific young players I like you could use the same plan and swap out NAW/Goga/Williams for whatever players you do like. I think the general idea is still good.

Glad you’re off the Romeo train. NAW is the better prospect. Also agree with Rui being overrated. Trading back wouldn’t be that bad depending who we grab.

[Braggins]

New Orleans at #4 instead of the Lakers due to the Anthony Davis trade could have some ripple effects on the draft. Darius Garland was looking like a consensus to go #4, but I'm not sure if thats still the case since New Orleans already has Jrue Holiday and Lonzo Ball.

If the Pelicans take Sekou/Culver/Hunter at #4 then theres a good chance Garland goes #6 to Phoenix, which means Coby White could drop into the 7-11 range.

Edit: According to WOJ it looks like Pelicans could be looking to trade #4.

[Liver_Pooty]

Pelicans now own the 4th pick. They obviously have no need for a guard. Coby White and Garland are going to slip. Definitely not past Chicago, but maybe enough to slip to where we can trade up a couple spots. Especially White who is big enough to play the 2.

[gundysmullet]

New Orleans at #4 instead of the Lakers due to the Anthony Davis trade could have some ripple effects on the draft. Darius Garland was looking like a consensus to go #4, but I'm not sure if thats still the case since New Orleans already has Jrue Holiday and Lonzo Ball.

If the Pelicans take Sekou/Culver/Hunter at #4 then theres a good chance Garland goes #6 to Phoenix, which means Coby White could drop into the 7-11 range.

Edit: According to WOJ it looks like Pelicans could be looking to trade #4.

Which would be a colossally stupid thing for them to do. Why rush the rebuild? They should trade Jrue for another pick not keep him and trade the number four. David Griffin is stupid if he trades number four. In fact the rumor was that the bulls were infatuated with Lonzo ball. He should flip ball to the bulls for number seven package seven and four to Memphis for number two and draft Morant. Morant, Zion and Ingram would be an amazing, exciting young trio to build around.

[Liver_Pooty]

New Orleans at #4 instead of the Lakers due to the Anthony Davis trade could have some ripple effects on the draft. Darius Garland was looking like a consensus to go #4, but I'm not sure if thats still the case since New Orleans already has Jrue Holiday and Lonzo Ball.

If the Pelicans take Sekou/Culver/Hunter at #4 then theres a good chance Garland goes #6 to Phoenix, which means Coby White could drop into the 7-11 range.

Edit: According to WOJ it looks like Pelicans could be looking to trade #4.

Which would be a colossally stupid thing for them to do. Why rush the rebuild? They should trade Jrue for another pick not keep him and trade the number four. David Griffin is stupid if he trades number four. In fact the rumor was that the bulls were infatuated with Lonzo ball. He should flip ball to the bulls for number seven package seven and four to Memphis for number two and draft Morant. Morant, Zion and Ingram would be an amazing, exciting young trio to build around.

I think the Pelicans can win now. Assuming Ingrams blood clots are okay. Holiday, Ball, Ingram, Zion on top of the 4th pick, or trading down? Josh Hart is solid as well. They can make the playoffs on top of developing their young core.

[gundysmullet]

New Orleans at #4 instead of the Lakers due to the Anthony Davis trade could have some ripple effects on the draft. Darius Garland was looking like a consensus to go #4, but I'm not sure if thats still the case since New Orleans already has Jrue Holiday and Lonzo Ball.

If the Pelicans take Sekou/Culver/Hunter at #4 then theres a good chance Garland goes #6 to Phoenix, which means Coby White could drop into the 7-11 range.

Edit: According to WOJ it looks like Pelicans could be looking to trade #4.

Which would be a colossally stupid thing for them to do. Why rush the rebuild? They should trade Jrue for another pick not keep him and trade the number four. David Griffin is stupid if he trades number four. In fact the rumor was that the bulls were infatuated with Lonzo ball. He should flip ball to the bulls for number seven package seven and four to Memphis for number two and draft Morant. Morant, Zion and Ingram would be an amazing, exciting young trio to build around.

I think the Pelicans can win now. Assuming Ingrams blood clots are okay. Holiday, Ball, Ingram, Zion on top of the 4th pick, or trading down? Josh Hart is solid as well. They can make the playoffs on top of developing their young core.

Lonzo ball is a net negative, he shoots 51% from the free-throw line, he is trash. Josh Hart is an eighth man on a decent team, Brandon Ingram has the same medical condition that forced Chris Bosh to retire, hopefully he will have a different outcome, because I think he’s actually a decent player.. New Orleans is not in a “win now” mode in anyway shape or form. Rushing the rebuild is what got Del Demps fired in the first place. It’s that mindset that wants Hornets fans to trade for Kevin love. Patience my friend, patience.

[KingCat]

what would be the point of drafting PJ Washington exactly one year after drafting Bridges? They look like exactly the same player in college and I am sure he will have the same struggles Miles has had in the NBA, and they are both hella tweeners. I understand ignoring positional needs if PJ was the best player available, but in this draft, there are so many other options at 12.

[JMAC3]

Im willing to take a risk on Bol at 12.

I’m not sure I get the Bol Bol pick, I get it is a high risk because of injury concerns and his skinny frame. What is his upside?

Chris Boucher just won Defensive player in the gleague and mvp. How many people know his name? He is probably closest thing to Bol Bol and he isn’t taking over the league.

I just a see a lot of red flags to potentially draft an anorexic Myles Turner.


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[JMAC3]

It’s like high risk high reward makes the reward more intriguing to people. Cam Reddish has one of highest rewards in this draft at 6-8 and a history of being a dominate player. However his floor is high too as a guy who can play defense and knock down shots.

Just because I guy can get on the floor early in the nba, it leads fans to thinking its a safe pick and I whole heartily disagree.

In order to improve in this league you have to get on the floor and play, that’s the problem with Monk. Bridges is the opposite, he is solid and got minutes and I think he will make a big jump this season because of it.

Give me guys I know can see the floor early.. culver, Reddish, Washington..... not guys who are going to struggle to make a rotation is Bol Bol and Porter jr.

Just because they might be more raw and struggle early doesn’t mean ultimately that raises their ceiling if anything it hurts it.


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[BigSlam]

Give me guys I know can see the floor early.. culver, Reddish, Washington..... not guys who are going to struggle to make a rotation is Bol Bol and Porter jr.

Just because they might be more raw and struggle early doesn’t mean ultimately that raises their ceiling if anything it hurts it.

I’ve always felt the same way.

Never understood why sophomore+ players have the extra years in college held against them either. I’d rather have someone who’s been in the system a little longer and has an extra year of maturity. And often it’s the difference of a 19 year old Vs a 20/21 year old. It’s not like it’s a 19 year old Vs a 26 year old.

Unless it’s a super intriguing youngster (Zion) and not a dolt like Vonleh.

I think that’s in part why I gravitate towards players like Hunter and Fernando as well.

I prefer fundamentally sound players who have a higher chance to hit their floor but still a significant enough ceiling.


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[Bassman]

It’s like high risk high reward makes the reward more intriguing to people. Cam Reddish has one of highest rewards in this draft at 6-8 and a history of being a dominate player. However his floor is high too as a guy who can play defense and knock down shots.

Just because I guy can get on the floor early in the nba, it leads fans to thinking its a safe pick and I whole heartily disagree.

In order to improve in this league you have to get on the floor and play, that’s the problem with Monk. Bridges is the opposite, he is solid and got minutes and I think he will make a big jump this season because of it.

Give me guys I know can see the floor early.. culver, Reddish, Washington..... not guys who are going to struggle to make a rotation is Bol Bol and Porter jr.

Just because they might be more raw and struggle early doesn’t mean ultimately that raises their ceiling if anything it hurts it.


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Agree. I think Charlotte (Bobs era forward) has always made stupid high risk/reward player picks at the top of the draft, like Adam Morrison and MKG. Both of those guys had known deficiencies that put them at risk for playing well in this league (Morrison was weak and a diabetic with low athleticism; MKG couldn’t shoot worth a crap). But then they’ve made horrible draft decisions at every level. Myles and Graham look good, Monk was not the best option, and many others were just based on bad scouting and trying to remake a player into something they are not (stretch 4’s anyone?).

Bol is not built to improve on his weak frame, and has known health issues. I’d much prefer taking Hayes and trying to build him into our future 5 than Bol. Much more athletic (needed in today’s NBA), a proven shot blocker, and bound to shot better than Bol. Frankly we need a skilled shooter as much as anything at the 2 guard. With Kemba having heavy duty suitors we will be rebuilding anyway. What a mess.

[gundysmullet]

It’s like high risk high reward makes the reward more intriguing to people. Cam Reddish has one of highest rewards in this draft at 6-8 and a history of being a dominate player. However his floor is high too as a guy who can play defense and knock down shots.

Just because I guy can get on the floor early in the nba, it leads fans to thinking its a safe pick and I whole heartily disagree.

In order to improve in this league you have to get on the floor and play, that’s the problem with Monk. Bridges is the opposite, he is solid and got minutes and I think he will make a big jump this season because of it.

Give me guys I know can see the floor early.. culver, Reddish, Washington..... not guys who are going to struggle to make a rotation is Bol Bol and Porter jr.

Just because they might be more raw and struggle early doesn’t mean ultimately that raises their ceiling if anything it hurts it.


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Agree. I think Charlotte (Bobs era forward) has always made stupid high risk/reward player picks at the top of the draft, like Adam Morrison and MKG. Both of those guys had known deficiencies that put them at risk for playing well in this league (Morrison was weak and a diabetic with low athleticism; MKG couldn’t shoot worth a crap). But then they’ve made horrible draft decisions at every level. Myles and Graham look good, Monk was not the best option, and many others were just based on bad scouting and trying to remake a player into something they are not (stretch 4’s anyone?).

Bol is not built to improve on his weak frame, and has known health issues. I’d much prefer taking Hayes and trying to build him into our future 5 than Bol. Much more athletic (needed in today’s NBA), a proven shot blocker, and bound to shot better than Bol. Frankly we need a skilled shooter as much as anything at the 2 guard. With Kemba having heavy duty suitors we will be rebuilding anyway. What a mess.

How were either of those picks “high risk”? They were both the consensus picks by everyone, well almost everyone at the time. Granted everyone was wrong, especially with MKG because his offense was and still is literally nonexistent. Morrison could not play defense but people forget that in his second game ever against the Spurs he dropped 28 points.

[LofJ]

MKG got lucky playing with Kyrie in high school and Davis in college. It probably made scouts think he was a more impactful player than he was. But even then he was the 2nd youngest player after Lebron to ever get 25/12. What this team sucks at even more than scouting is player development.

If that doesn't change it won't matter what spot and who this team drafts.

[LofJ]

The team's lack of success developing players is the reason why even though I really want to like guys like Nassir Little I hope they get drafted elsewhere.

Little is probably the best athlete in this year's class after Zion, he's really smart, and he has a workable jumper. But he doesn't know how to play organized, team basketball. I think some other team can help him get there, but I'd be shocked if the Hornets could pull it off.

[BeesWax]

The team's lack of success developing players is the reason why even though I really want to like guys like Nassir Little I hope they get drafted elsewhere.

Little is probably the best athlete in this year's class after Zion, he's really smart, and he has a workable jumper. But he doesn't know how to play organized, team basketball. I think some other team can help him get there, but I'd be shocked if the Hornets could pull it off.

From what I saw of the way Bridges developed I have started to like the idea of taking Little. Nothing is broken in his game he just has a lot to learn. I like him on par with Reddish. Both struggled last year but both showed signs they can be a force and I like Little slightly more for having a higher ceiling IMO.

[DY_nasty]

the only difference between JP Tokoto and Little is Roy Williams' respect lmao