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[Crives]

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So now we'd have to trade up for White? Talk about a worst case scenario. We better be getting DLo.

Could just be NO playing games to get us to trade up for culver at 4 instead of feeling confident at white at 6.

If pelicans take white at 4... we would have Garland available at 6 if the Cavs take culver.. and in that case I could see us getting good value for #6 in a trade scenario.

[TheLogician]

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So now we'd have to trade up for White? Talk about a worst case scenario. We better be getting DLo.

Could just be NO playing games to get us to trade up for culver at 4 instead of feeling confident at white at 6.

If pelicans take white at 4... we would have Garland available at 6 if the Cavs take culver.. and in that case I could see us getting good value for #6 in a trade scenario.

Who do you think might want Garland? Celtics? Pistons? I'd be fine moving down for one of the PFs.

[Crives]

So now we'd have to trade up for White? Talk about a worst case scenario. We better be getting DLo.

Could just be NO playing games to get us to trade up for culver at 4 instead of feeling confident at white at 6.

If pelicans take white at 4... we would have Garland available at 6 if the Cavs take culver.. and in that case I could see us getting good value for #6 in a trade scenario.

Who do you think might want Garland? Celtics? Pistons? I'd be fine moving down for one of the PFs.

No idea.. maybe
Celtics 14 + Smart ?
Magic AG?
Wizards 9 for 6 + Tyler? (I think Wiz have 20m in trade exceptions)

[grumpysaddle]

I can see the Bulls trading their pick for Ball.

Pelicans would then have pick 1, pick 4 and pick 7

Maybe they could then move a package of a player/ 4th pick/ 7th pick/ and one of the Lakers picks for Beal? That would be crazy.

If they were interested, I'd try to get in on the deal by

Adding Warren/ the 32nd pick/ and the Milwaukee pick for the 9th pick. And then take one of Culver, Garland, or White ( whoever is left at 6, and then take either Clarke or Goga Bidatze at 9.

Two picks and Warren (a 20PPG efficient scorer) for pick 9 in a crappy draft? That is a move that ends careers.

[Slim Charless]

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Those post LeBron era picks could be spicy.

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That is a good haul. They wisely waited till after bron's contract is up before grabbing those picks.

[nevetsov]

If the rumour is true that NOLA wants Lavine, could we do a 3 way based around:

Lavine to NOLA
Jrue to PHX
6 and parts to CHI?

NOLA end up with Ball, Lavine, Hart, Ingram, Zion and whatever else they retain (Okafor, Randle, bucketload of future picks etc.)

[Maze]

- Lakers sign LeBron in the offseason
- AD signs with Klutch (LeBron) two months later
- AD demands trade to the Lakers
- Lakers jump 7 spots and get the #4 pick
- Pelicans get the #1 pick
- Lakers trade for AD using #4 pick

BONUS

- Durant out for next season
- Thompson out for next season

Any idiot could see that this was planned. Not just by LeBron/Klutch but also the NBA.

I was never one to believe that the draft was rigged, but after seeing how things played out this year, I think it's plain to see that the draft has a lil "design" to it.You'd have to be a complete fool to believe that the 2 teams involved in this whole Anthony Davis fiasco just happened to move up in the draft by "chance" or "luck".My gut tells me the draft lottery this year was certainly rigged.I don't know how they do it.Maybe the machines that draw the balls are rigged?I don't know.There's a fishy stench all over this one

[Saberestar]

I’d end my life if we trade up for White

Yeah, if we trade up for White I'll be furious.

Hopefully, the Pelicans select him for them and they play a backcourt's rotation of three tall and big PGs.

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[starbosa10]

I'd rather trade for jrue than lonzo

[Qwigglez]

I can see the Bulls trading their pick for Ball.

Pelicans would then have pick 1, pick 4 and pick 7

So that would mean the Pelicans traded, AD for two top 7 picks in what most are considering a very weak draft, along with Brandon Ingram who is like a crappier version of TJ Warren, and Josh Hart. Along with a bunch of unknown picks for now.

As of now, I'd say that package they received is a little underwhelming, however if there were no other bids on the table than I guess it's better than losing AD for nothing.

[BobbieL]

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So now we'd have to trade up for White? Talk about a worst case scenario. We better be getting DLo.

Could just be NO playing games to get us to trade up for culver at 4 instead of feeling confident at white at 6.

If pelicans take white at 4... we would have Garland available at 6 if the Cavs take culver.. and in that case I could see us getting good value for #6 in a trade scenario.

Suns got bigger plans than Coby White and Darius Garland and Culver

thats my theory and I am sticking to it

[DroughtsOverPHX]

I will say this though. With the Warriors no longer a threat (next year at least), the Lakers now are back to being the villains.
I just hate how luck they are to get that role.
I hope those picks they gave up seriously bite them in the ass in a few years.

I hear you on that. When you have Lebron running the team and using his 3 superstars forumula, there is no way I can NOT hope for failure. Seeing GS lose with an inadequate bench was satisfying but not nearly as satisfying as it will be if the Lakers with AD, Lebron and Kemba don't make the playoffs or lose in the first round. Maybe they can find a couple more all-stars willing to sign for below market value that want the lights of LA and a championship with Lebron.

If Lebron is a greater player than Jordan was it would be hard to really know because of how he worked to manipulate rosters.

[jcsunsfan]

So now we'd have to trade up for White? Talk about a worst case scenario. We better be getting DLo.

Could just be NO playing games to get us to trade up for culver at 4 instead of feeling confident at white at 6.

If pelicans take white at 4... we would have Garland available at 6 if the Cavs take culver.. and in that case I could see us getting good value for #6 in a trade scenario.

Suns got bigger plans than Coby White and Darius Garland and Culver

thats my theory and I am sticking to it

Jrue or bust?

A trade for Jrue looks reasonable right now with the latest trade. Pels are in full rebuild mode and they have a young pg in Ball. They need shooting and scoring from the wing. TJ Warren is a sweet match alongside Ball and Zion. A trade featuring Warren for Jrue as the core with other stuff from the Suns thrown in to even it out would make a lot of sense.


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[BobbieL]

Could just be NO playing games to get us to trade up for culver at 4 instead of feeling confident at white at 6.

If pelicans take white at 4... we would have Garland available at 6 if the Cavs take culver.. and in that case I could see us getting good value for #6 in a trade scenario.

Suns got bigger plans than Coby White and Darius Garland and Culver

thats my theory and I am sticking to it

Jrue or bust?

A trade for Jrue looks reasonable right now with the latest trade. Pels are in full rebuild mode and they have a young pg in Ball. They need shooting and scoring from the wing. TJ Warren is a sweet match alongside Ball and Zion. A trade featuring Warren for Jrue as the core with other stuff from the Suns thrown in to even it out would make a lot of sense.


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I don't know if its Jrue Holiday . It might be D'Lo Russell . First off, the idea of a Rookie PG on the Suns, even Ja Morant - never made sense to me. The Suns are a team ready to start moving forward - to me, a rookie PG (and I get SGA was very good for the Clippers) would have growing pains where a more veteran player would be able to help with the growthn of Booker, Ayton, Warren, Bridges, etc.

Second, the cap. The Suns are tight against the cap and using 5.5m ona rookie AND still signing a vet makes zero sense. Gambo talks about moving one or both of Okobo and Melton - thats only 2m of cap space. The idea of drafting a PG, signing a veteran and still getting a 4 means that Warren, Jackson and Johnson are probably gone - so how can your team improve that much. UNLESS - its for a REALLY good player.

I think Jones and crew are thinking big time player. But either way way, I don't think the Suns will be drafting PG with the pick. I think they trade back as a team wants maybe GArland and they look to Free Agency trades

[jcsunsfan]

Suns got bigger plans than Coby White and Darius Garland and Culver

thats my theory and I am sticking to it

Jrue or bust?

A trade for Jrue looks reasonable right now with the latest trade. Pels are in full rebuild mode and they have a young pg in Ball. They need shooting and scoring from the wing. TJ Warren is a sweet match alongside Ball and Zion. A trade featuring Warren for Jrue as the core with other stuff from the Suns thrown in to even it out would make a lot of sense.


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I don't know if its Jrue Holiday . It might be D'Lo Russell . First off, the idea of a Rookie PG on the Suns, even Ja Morant - never made sense to me. The Suns are a team ready to start moving forward - to me, a rookie PG (and I get SGA was very good for the Clippers) would have growing pains where a more veteran player would be able to help with the growthn of Booker, Ayton, Warren, Bridges, etc.

Second, the cap. The Suns are tight against the cap and using 5.5m ona rookie AND still signing a vet makes zero sense. Gambo talks about moving one or both of Okobo and Melton - thats only 2m of cap space. The idea of drafting a PG, signing a veteran and still getting a 4 means that Warren, Jackson and Johnson are probably gone - so how can your team improve that much. UNLESS - its for a REALLY good player.

I think Jones and crew are thinking big time player. But either way way, I don't think the Suns will be drafting PG with the pick. I think they trade back as a team wants maybe GArland and they look to Free Agency trades

It ought to be Jrue. He is the best fit for this team. Much better than Russell.



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[nevetsov]

Agree, a rookie PG just isn't the way to go.

For the sake of team development, we need someone who is already NBA tested.

Also, if you swung a cat this off-season it'd be impossible to not hit a FA PG with it. Simply looking at supply versus demand indicates we'd have to actually try to not end up with one.

Filling that PF spot is going to be a little tougher in FA so to me it makes sense to fill it with the pick (draft or trade).

Even if you don't like Clarke he seems like the smart choice given adding another PG would give us 4 PGs (3 on rookie deals and 2 we spent all of last season developing). And given our anchors this coming season will be Book/ Oubre/ Ayton, we don't need a high usage PF - just someone to play good D and hit open shots when set up by our PG. Perfect low pressure role for a rook.

[nevetsov]

PS, I think if Jrue goes anywhere it's Chicago for Lavine.

[Wilber85]

They aren’t trading Jrue ... they need him at a veteran / leader

They should sign Jonas, Vucevic or brooke lopez ... then get Hunter for #4

They would have a better team then the suns , and a deeper team. That would be huge for them

Ball , Hart
Jrue , etwaun Moore
Ingram , Solomon hill
Zion , Hunter
Lopez, Jonas , Vucevic with backup okafor

[Fo-Real]

Watching a couple of the last games last year (Pels, Mavs), MAN I still think Josh has such a dynamic skillset. Notice I said skillset and not brain, his body seems to move too fast for his brain sometimes. His ball handling and shooting stroke both got better after he was tasked with working on pg skills for last year. If his 3 ball got a little better I have no doubt he could be coached to run some streaches in the backcourt with point Book off the bench for short streaches of course, I want a real pg on this team. Dont think he gets enough credit for his passing, thought he was the only one who consistently looked to feed Ayton. With Oubre and Bridges on this roster, the only fit for Josh would be Combo guard but I still think if he developes as much this coming season as he did last (again ball handling and shooting stroke), he has the size, athletisim and physical tools to be a dynamic player. I still low key hope that Monty (coach and system number what??? 5???) could have some success at cultivating Josh, the dude has the ability to just be dynamic. Truly think Josh was miles ahead of Melton or Okobo at running the point, no way he was worse with this **** system and d league roster. I hope he matures, learns and stays, no one matches his quickness energy and fire on this team.

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[Qwigglez]

- Lakers sign LeBron in the offseason
- AD signs with Klutch (LeBron) two months later
- AD demands trade to the Lakers
- Lakers jump 7 spots and get the #4 pick
- Pelicans get the #1 pick
- Lakers trade for AD using #4 pick

BONUS

- Durant out for next season
- Thompson out for next season

Any idiot could see that this was planned. Not just by LeBron/Klutch but also the NBA.

I was never one to believe that the draft was rigged, but after seeing how things played out this year, I think it's plain to see that the draft has a lil "design" to it.You'd have to be a complete fool to believe that the 2 teams involved in this whole Anthony Davis fiasco just happened to move up in the draft by "chance" or "luck".My gut tells me the draft lottery this year was certainly rigged.I don't know how they do it.Maybe the machines that draw the balls are rigged?I don't know.There's a fishy stench all over this one

Didn’t something similar happen when Lebron left Cleveland? Cavs took on a salary dump from the Clippers and they got an unprotected 1st round pick which landed the Cavs Kyrie Irving. Meanwhile their own pick ended up 4th. And then the Cavs won the lottery two more times in three years. Sometimes the tin foil hat puts out strong signals.