Woj: Anthony Davis Traded to Lakers for Brandon Ingram, Lonzo Ball, Josh Hart, & Three 1st Rnd Picks - including #4

[Doug_12]

I see a lot of people aren’t aware of just how bad the draft pick protections and deferments are for the Lakers. They weren’t first reported so people outside of NOLA don’t know.

The Lakers can’t trade a FRP pre-draft until potentially 2027. Think about that.

Why can't a team trade a swapped pick?

[Noctilux]

Pels are now my 2nd favorite team in the league. I grew a bit attached to these young guys over the years and went to bat for them against the haters. Watching them develop was both a frustrating exercise in patience and a dad-like sense of pride . I know this last season playing with Lebron took a toll on them and they're probably relieved to get a fresh start. Most of you have no clue how good they really are. The Lakers overpaid but that's what it takes to get a player like AD.

Pelicans fans, trust me when I say this but you don't realize how lucky you are. Lonzo is a quiet, humble, unselfish dude. He plays winning, unselfish basketball and doesn't give 2 **** about his numbers. He's going to be a perennial all-defensive player. I've always called him the Draymond Green of point guards. He isn't your protoypical PG who handles the ball, but a ball-mover who plays hot potato and allows your stars to shine. He's the rising tide that lifts all boats. He's a straight up maestro in the open court. The noise surrounding him is literally all Lavar and he's just a clown with no real power.

Ingram has a Kawhi-like personality in that he's quiet off-court but his game is all business. He was the only player who was unaffected by all the trade rumors. In fact he stepped up and played like an all-star (27/6/6 in the last ~14 games before injury on high efficiency). His defense also looked elite at times. See the highlights when he switched onto Kyrie. I'm willing to bet he's going to be the better player between Tatum. It hurts to lose him.

Hart is a big-time role player. I used to call him "the wall" because he'd switch onto a big man in the paint and they had no chance of backing him down. It was hilarious to watch them when they thought they could take advantage of a smaller player. See David West's comments about how he knew it was time to retire when he couldn't back down Hart. We affectionately called him Josh Barkley on Lakersground because he's a fantastic rebounder for a guard. He will give you 40% shooting from 3. That's what he shot last season and this season up until late December when he had a knee issue. His shooting tanked after that. I'm confident after a summer of rehabbing he'll be one of the best 3/D players in the league. Similar game to Danny Green, except his perimeter defense is bad and his post defense is excellent.

Of course, this is all without mentioning the picks. Damn, I'm really going to miss those guys and will be rooting for them. Now that they're no longer wearing Laker jerseys people will really start to appreciate their talents more. Pels have a bright future. I don't like the games their front office played but the players have nothing to do with that. I think the Pels have the best young team in the NBA and they're going to be fun as hell to watch with Lonzo pushing the tempo. Congrats and good luck to you guys.

You failed to mention their injured riddled past and what a liability Lonzo is on the free throw line. Other than that, I agree.

[DowJones]

Lonzo, Ingram, Hart are not very good. RealGM overrates future draft picks a lot.Lakers laughing all the way to the bank.

This is how I feel. Pelicans are screwed.

They won’t be able to tank and get Zion a proper sidekick next year.

They don't need to get him a great sidekick for a few seasons. Let this young team grow. They have more than enough draft capital to get a disgruntled superstar 2 or 3 years from now.

[dautjazz]

The offer is apparently
Ball
Ingram
Hart
#4 2019
Protected 2021
Swap for 2023
Unprotected 2024

Presumably, any Lakers overpay was done for the Lakers to retain their max this year.

Source? Also, I take it that the swap happens if it benefits the Pelicans?

[dockingsched]

What happens if Ingram fails his physical?

He was already cleared and working out, why would he fail his physical?

[drosereturn]

IF Ingram has health issues, I wonder whether this trade gets vetoed by commissioner Silver? Might be another failed CP3 trade.

[Hephaestus]

Laker fans...really...I am not trying to be obnoxious, but why do you think the Lakers will be good in 2021-2025? Because they have AD? Odds are very high they either will NOT have Lebron or he will be what 38 years old? You think he will still be a superstar? I guess they could be good...but after AD resigns...what Lebron and him will be making 70-75 mill between them...what's left to fill the roster?

This is NBA, not soccer where teams like Real Madrid are always on the top.

Teams in NBA are good for 5 seasons, then they suck for 5.

If they manage to win a ring or two and then they suck in 2021-2025 it's still very good for them.

[AmusingFiddle]

If David Griffin is such a great GM, why did he get fired from the Cavs?


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He didn’t get fired his contract expired. If I remember correctly Dan Gilbert was being cheap and didn’t want to pay Griffin his due.


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[Chanel Bomber]

I see a lot of people aren’t aware of just how bad the draft pick protections and deferments are for the Lakers. They weren’t first reported so people outside of NOLA don’t know.

The Lakers can’t trade a FRP pre-draft until potentially 2027. Think about that.

Why can't a team trade a swapped pick?

Because the Lakers also traded first round draft picks in addition to the pick swaps and the Stepien rule will prevent them from trading those pick swaps. The rule states that teams cannot trade their first-round pick in consecutive years.

[dautjazz]

Lakers got fleeced. Who were they bidding against again?? What a joke of a franchise.

How did get fleeced? Their best assets were Lebron and Kuzma, and didn't trade either. Ingram is in his final year, he's a big risk with his health, and Lebron can't wait around for this kid to enter his prime. Ball just isn't that good, atleast not yet. Hart is ok, but come on he was a 7ppg guy last year. The fourth pick could be really nice, but the other picks, will probably be players that will be in the G-League more than their actual roster. Other than 3 late first round steals (Siakam, Bogdanović, and Kuzma), picks 26-30 are pretty forgettable players. 1 in 10 turns out to good player in this range. Now with Lebron AND Davis, they will be very attractive for a star to join to their back court. They still got a ton of money left. In the end, what was better, to trade a few guys who wont shift the needle for the Lakers in the next couple of years, or make this move now in be an instant contender.

[dautjazz]

Read on Twitter

FWIW. Most likely Boston guys saving face.

Yeah AD wasn't going to stick around for that, not to mention that Irving may bolt this summer. Boston could of been special, but they held on to their picks too tightly.

[Ugly Duckling]

Now that I've had a night to think about it, I think Griffin won this trade. He could've held onto AD until the deadline to see if playing alongside Zion changed his mind, but how could he pass this up? AD was most likely going to the Lakers anyway next yr. Just so they could capitalize on LeBron before he really starts to decline, they got Lonzo (underrated PG who has elite court vision, length/rebounding and defense and who I believe will start knocking down 3's more consistently), Ingram (who the Lakers believe was their best prospect), Hart (solid young bench guy; adds to depth) the 4th pick (who can be sick if Griffin is smart) and a two more first rd picks and pick swaps. Solid trade by Griffin

[Coachcavplaya23]

If David Griffin is such a great GM, why did he get fired from the Cavs?


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He didn’t get fired his contract expired. If I remember correctly Dan Gilbert was being cheap and didn’t want to pay Griffin his due.


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Thank god that Gilbert was being cheap. Griffin wasnt that great. He overpayed for Smith and Shump. He fired Blatt for Lue who was a complete joke. We won a champsionship but that was due to Lebron and Kyrie playing out of their minds. At least Koby is building a franchise with some very competent people. Griffin now has a lot of assets but lets see how he truly uses them.

[cjx]

My inside sources tell me the Lakers will pursue Malcolm Brogdon (their offer will be a tough pill for the Bucks to match) and Patrick Beverley. Remember who gave you this scoop 1st, friends.

[kobyz]

this trade is a joke, lakers didn't give up Kuzma, best asset in the trade is Ingram who might not play another game ever, lakers shouldn't hire a GM, they have Griffin!

[Saciid11]

If draft picks made teams contenders then surely Lakers would have been among best teams in the league with four top 10 picks last 6 years. With #2 Ingram, #2 Lonzo, #3 DLA and #8 Randle and none of them are with the Lakers and none of them look like superstar or even high end all star who can lead a team. The only one Lakers kept that looks like he is going to be especial scorer is Kuzma who wAs drafted #27.

Raptors just won with roster that had absolutely no lottery picks. The highest picked player on raptors was Kawhi who was picked #15.. Pascal #27, OG #21, FVV undrafted, Serge #24, Lowry I think #21, Gasol somewhere late second round, Norman #46, Green second round ...

[hoosierdaddy34]

Lakers fans, and I have been one for 40 years, need to stop with Kyle Kuzma being our best asset. At least not when it comes to the basketball court. We all watched him last year struggle defensively and with his shot. Ingram was better than him at every facet of the game last year and his 3 years younger. Anybody with eyes could see that. Whatever we got AD...but let’s not pretend it was some coup that we kept Kyle freaking Kuzma.

[hoosierdaddy34]

IF Ingram has health issues, I wonder whether this trade gets vetoed by commissioner Silver? Might be another failed CP3 trade.

He’s already been cleared for basketball activities. And his condition is well known and out in the open. The only way this would be a consideration is if the Lakers hid something, which given again “he has been cleared to begin basketball activities” obviously isn’t the case.

[teke184]

My inside sources tell me the Lakers will pursue Malcolm Brogdon (their offer will be a tough pill for the Bucks to match) and Patrick Beverley. Remember who gave you this scoop 1st, friends.

That actually may be a possibility.

Reason for it is that, Per Woj, the trade will be executed around July 6 rather than July 30, which ends up preventing the Lakers from having a true max slot available.

[snaquille oatmeal]

Laker fans...really...I am not trying to be obnoxious, but why do you think the Lakers will be good in 2021-2025? Because they have AD? Odds are very high they either will NOT have Lebron or he will be what 38 years old? You think he will still be a superstar? I guess they could be good...but after AD resigns...what Lebron and him will be making 70-75 mill between them...what's left to fill the roster?

only thing I can think of is that when Lebron leaves the Lakers he will leave a 40 mil cap space in the Lakers pocket.