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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1581 » by FlatearthZorro » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:55 pm

Darth Celtic wrote:Kyrie leaving and AD to the Lakers should change our draft strat. We no longer trade picks for future picks. Or for vets.

We keep all picks and no longer draft a few ready now players. We should be drafting 19-20 year olds tops. Develope and hope to hit on at least 1.

Some high floor low ceiling senior isn't going to be worth it to play along with JT/JB.


I do not expect Ainge to use all 3 draft choices. 2 tops, imo, I could be wrong tho.
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PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1582 » by gocelts » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:58 pm

I'd to take Bol at 14....although Danny will find the best point guard that no one will have ranked higher than 25 and we'll take him with our first pick.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1583 » by Wes-J » Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:00 pm

sully00 wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:Shooter and a big at #14 and #22. Who's good? Go!


I think you take the best big at 14 unless someone you expected to be gone is available. Clarke or Bol are my preferences, but Washington or whoever is good too.

I really like Cam Johnson as a 3 and D NBA ready guy. Terrible reason to draft a guy unless you have 3 picks and your in the back end of a flat if not weak draft. He has a pro game and while he projects as an NBA role player it is a really important role.

If you have filled those two spots then the need is PG. Not many attractive options but there are guys worth taking a shot on and in this draft getting your guy is more important than perceived value at the draft slot, Ty Jerome, Carsen Edwards, Shamarie Ponds, Jaylen Lecque (which is a massive flyer).


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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1584 » by FlatearthZorro » Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:06 pm

gocelts wrote:I'd to take Bol at 14....although Danny will find the best point guard that no one will have ranked higher than 25 and we'll take him with our first pick.


Thybulle has Danny written all over him. :lol: :lol:
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PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1585 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:12 pm

Im all about Brandon Clarke at this point. Sure, he’s 6’8 with a poor wingspan, but he’ll be one of the top 5 or 10 athletes at the forward position from day 1 on. He’s got some serious upside too, as his completely revamped jump shot showed significant improvement from his days at SJSU. He’s the guy I want at 14.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1586 » by FlatearthZorro » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:18 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Im all about Brandon Clarke at this point. Sure, he’s 6’8 with a poor wingspan, but he’ll be one of the top 5 or 10 athletes at the forward position from day 1 on. He’s got some serious upside too, as his completely revamped jump shot showed significant improvement from his days at SJSU. He’s the guy I want at 14.


I like Washington, too. Wouldn't be mad with him at 14. Bitadze has looked like a pretty decent athlete, who can shoot. Has that nasty streak about him, too and can block shots, very mobile for a 7 footer. For me Doumbouya probably has the highest potential sans Zion. I might sound crazy, but I feel the kid has superstar potential. He's still 18, will be 19 when the season starts. 6'9, good shooting form, good athlete(not crazy but still pretty good), very quick on his feet. I feel like there's something there, could be wrong tho as I'm not a huge "talent" guy.
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PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1587 » by bucknersrevenge » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:19 pm

Andrew McCeltic wrote:Look at Claxton's legs. - can you name a single NBA big who entered the league that spindly and managed to stick around?


Giannis, KD, Shawn Kemp. That's from the top of my head. I'd have to think a little more for others.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1588 » by djFan71 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:19 pm

Andrew McCeltic wrote:Look at Claxton's legs. - can you name a single NBA big who entered the league that spindly and managed to stick around?

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I know not a big, but I'm taking Claxton with that dream in mind. He can handle, he can play the 4. Don't ever see him being a center, though.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1589 » by Darthlukey » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:21 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:
Darth Celtic wrote:Kyrie leaving and AD to the Lakers should change our draft strat. We no longer trade picks for future picks. Or for vets.

We keep all picks and no longer draft a few ready now players. We should be drafting 19-20 year olds tops. Develope and hope to hit on at least 1.

Some high floor low ceiling senior isn't going to be worth it to play along with JT/JB.


I do not expect Ainge to use all 3 draft choices. 2 tops, imo, I could be wrong tho.

Hopefully he can move one or two of them to teams that will hopefully trend downwards into the future, make a profit so to speak, not just kick the can down the road
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1590 » by m haynes » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:28 pm

big-shot-ROB wrote:
m haynes wrote:
Roddy wrote:
Oh I agree. But we don't have a lot of options right now. I'd love to bring Rondo back, but I guess he wants to play for a contender.

Or maybe we could sign Rubio and have Carsen as a backup.


"but his play making is really lacking"

Maybe its the team he plays with. He was a one man show in college because he had to.

"can shoot from everywhere " Bingo!!!!!!!!


No, it's not the team he plays with at all. Yeah, they suck. But Carsen needs to improve a lot his offensive awareness, as well as how natural he looks playmaking for others. Seriously, if you haven't been on this thread one week before the draft, think twice before you post. Watching a 10 minute highlight video is not scouting. I mean this with all the love in my heart.

But let's try to keep this thread clean of overractions. It will gain track a lot now that AD is not an option and we'll probably be drafting for ourselves, so a lot of posters should gain lots of knowledge by reading the thread. Not saying I am a draft expert or anything, but let's keep the quality of the thread high please.

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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1591 » by FlatearthZorro » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:38 pm

I may or may not be writing this for the third time today, but don't sleep on Ty Jerome. I think he's the type of PG Brad can mold into an all-star-ish player at that position, very fundamentally sound.
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1592 » by Darth Celtic » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:45 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:I may or may not be writing this for the third time today, but don't sleep on Ty Jerome. I think he's the type of PG Brad can mold into an all-star-ish player at that position, very fundamentally sound.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1593 » by BostonCouchGM » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:49 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:I may or may not be writing this for the third time today, but don't sleep on Ty Jerome. I think he's the type of PG Brad can mold into an all-star-ish player at that position, very fundamentally sound.


he's a poor man's Satoransky. Classic solid college player who will get lost in the NBA due to lack of physicality and athleticism. These are the type of players you take late in the 2nd round so your bench unit is competitive and pushes the starters in practice. Not due to talent but tenacity. Every team needs try hards on their bench for this very reason. And in the event that a starter does go down they can fill in for a game or two and maybe not cost you a win.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1594 » by FlatearthZorro » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:56 pm

Darth Celtic wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:I may or may not be writing this for the third time today, but don't sleep on Ty Jerome. I think he's the type of PG Brad can mold into an all-star-ish player at that position, very fundamentally sound.
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Yea he's projected to go after 20. I expect him to be there at 22.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1595 » by FlatearthZorro » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:57 pm

BostonCouchGM wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:I may or may not be writing this for the third time today, but don't sleep on Ty Jerome. I think he's the type of PG Brad can mold into an all-star-ish player at that position, very fundamentally sound.


he's a poor man's Satoransky. Classic solid college player who will get lost in the NBA due to lack of physicality and athleticism. These are the type of players you take late in the 2nd round so your bench unit is competitive and pushes the starters in practice. Not due to talent but tenacity. Every team needs try hards on their bench for this very reason. And in the event that a starter does go down they can fill in for a game or two and maybe not cost you a win.


You might be right, btw. But he's a pretty good shooter. He does need to hit the weight room, tho.. Thybulle then if he's there at #22... :D or Claxton.. I'm starting to get a bit paranoid that Danny will ignore all the big men like Bitadze, Washington and Clarke will select Thybulle at #14 instead... :lol: :lol: He's exactly the type of player Ainge loves.
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1596 » by m haynes » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:55 pm

m haynes wrote:
big-shot-ROB wrote:
m haynes wrote:

"but his play making is really lacking"

Maybe its the team he plays with. He was a one man show in college because he had to.

"can shoot from everywhere " Bingo!!!!!!!!


No, it's not the team he plays with at all. Yeah, they suck. But Carsen needs to improve a lot his offensive awareness, as well as how natural he looks playmaking for others. Seriously, if you haven't been on this thread one week before the draft, think twice before you post. Watching a 10 minute highlight video is not scouting. I mean this with all the love in my heart.

But let's try to keep this thread clean of overractions. It will gain track a lot now that AD is not an option and we'll probably be drafting for ourselves, so a lot of posters should gain lots of knowledge by reading the thread. Not saying I am a draft expert or anything, but let's keep the quality of the thread high please.

Who the hell do you think you are frigging Danny Ainge. let me break it to you, your a idiot on a message board that really thinks he knows what he's talking about.
You know about as much as everyone else on this board, which is jack ****. Now go back and break down film before your mother call you for supper. GMAFB.

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"think twice before you post. Watching a 10 minute highlight video is not scouting" Maybe this will help you to be fair with all posters and protect poster that don't comment daily but read the board frequently.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1597 » by Kalela » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:00 pm

gocelts wrote:I'd to take Bol at 14....although Danny will find the best point guard that no one will have ranked higher than 25 and we'll take him with our first pick.


Or some undersized "big". Danny loves players who are undersized for their position.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1598 » by big-shot-ROB » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:08 pm

BostonCouchGM wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:I may or may not be writing this for the third time today, but don't sleep on Ty Jerome. I think he's the type of PG Brad can mold into an all-star-ish player at that position, very fundamentally sound.


he's a poor man's Satoransky. Classic solid college player who will get lost in the NBA due to lack of physicality and athleticism. These are the type of players you take late in the 2nd round so your bench unit is competitive and pushes the starters in practice. Not due to talent but tenacity. Every team needs try hards on their bench for this very reason. And in the event that a starter does go down they can fill in for a game or two and maybe not cost you a win.


Yeah, and even Satoransky is miles ahead from Jerome in the athleticsim department. I used to be very impressed when I saw him play here at Barcelona. And in the NBA he is clearly abused, just like Abrines. But I though some of the same things would happen with Brodgdon, though Brodgdon is built like a freaking tank eventhough it does not pop on the screen.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1599 » by nickgammon » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:17 pm

If the picks stay where they are, I’m feeling:

14) Claxton
20) Bol/trade/Grant Williams
22) Jerome/Edwards

I would trade up to get Doumbouya. Someone else on here said he has the highest upside sans Zion and I 100% agree. If the deal just isn’t there, there’s no one else worth trading up for imo.

Claxton has a lot of young Horford in his game + the 3-pt shot (it looks good anyway, needs to be more consistent). I think him learning under Horford would be ideal.

If Bol Bol slides all the way down to 20, he’s worth taking a flyer on. Guy could also be up there with Zion and Doumbouya in terms of potential. If he slides this far though, that makes it pretty indicative that no medical staff is confident in his health.

Jerome fits into the culture perfectly. Could be a less athletic Marcus Smart kinda guy with a better 3-pt shot.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1600 » by Zeroforwinger » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:19 pm

Chuma Okeke at 22. Probably misses most of the year but he’s a long term guy.

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