Around the NBA: 2018/2019 edition

[pepe1991]

I really don't see how will Magic, and most of mid and small market team be competitive in league where players plot their ways to XY destinations just because they can make 5 times more off court money.
You literally have Irving leaving Celtics to go to Brooklyn to play with Joe Harris and Allen just to be in Brooklyn.
Lakers are walking disaster of franchise yet here they are with Davis and Lebron, because it's LA.
Lou Williams took huge paycut to stay with Clippers because he likes LA.

Seems like only Knicks can't get themselfs into this, and even they were favorites to land Durant ( still can) despite being dumpster fire of a team.

So what's the point of existence of smaller teams ? Farming system?

[MagicFan101]

Why does the league always bail out the lakers? smh

Did they?

Davis is amazing but what has he been able to lead his team to?

They sold the farm to get him and Lebron isn’t getting younger.

If Kawhi signs there then I change my tune entirely. But I’m not ready to declare a new Dynasty for the Lakers.

The NBA did gift the Lakers with the 4th pick in the draft to help facilitate this trade.

Those tin foil hats never go out of style!

[tiderulz]

I really don't see how will Magic, and most of mid and small market team be competitive in league where players plot their ways to XY destinations just because they can make 5 times more off court money.
You literally have Irving leaving Celtics to go to Brooklyn to play with Joe Harris and Allen just to be in Brooklyn.
Lakers are walking disaster of franchise yet here they are with Davis and Lebron, because it's LA.
Lou Williams took huge paycut to stay with Clippers because he likes LA.

Seems like only Knicks can't get themselfs into this, and even they were favorites to land Durant ( still can) despite being dumpster fire of a team.

So what's the point of existence of smaller teams ? Farming system?

i dont believe thats the case. Yes, they can make more money but not that much. And in today's world, they can make money in small markets.

[pepe1991]

I really don't see how will Magic, and most of mid and small market team be competitive in league where players plot their ways to XY destinations just because they can make 5 times more off court money.
You literally have Irving leaving Celtics to go to Brooklyn to play with Joe Harris and Allen just to be in Brooklyn.
Lakers are walking disaster of franchise yet here they are with Davis and Lebron, because it's LA.
Lou Williams took huge paycut to stay with Clippers because he likes LA.

Seems like only Knicks can't get themselfs into this, and even they were favorites to land Durant ( still can) despite being dumpster fire of a team.

So what's the point of existence of smaller teams ? Farming system?

i dont believe thats the case. Yes, they can make more money but not that much. And in today's world, they can make money in small markets.

Why was Davis so desperate to leave Pelicans ? It was not for money made in club, it was all about him going to bigger market.
Same happend to Magic with Dwight.
Leonard same story.

Durant , Curry and Lebron actually make more money OUTSIDE NBA ( per year ) than with a club. Main reason? Exposure of media. Pretty much only reason why Lebron wanted to go to LA.


Durant's contracts outside NBA are:
Rubrik - stationed in California
Lime- stationed in California
Postmates -stationed in California


Lebron's
Blaze pizza- stationed in California
2 k sports- stationed in California
Beats by Dre -stationed in California


It's not hard to put up 2 and 2 together to see bigger picture.

[MoMM]

I really don't see how will Magic, and most of mid and small market team be competitive in league where players plot their ways to XY destinations just because they can make 5 times more off court money.
You literally have Irving leaving Celtics to go to Brooklyn to play with Joe Harris and Allen just to be in Brooklyn.
Lakers are walking disaster of franchise yet here they are with Davis and Lebron, because it's LA.
Lou Williams took huge paycut to stay with Clippers because he likes LA.

Seems like only Knicks can't get themselfs into this, and even they were favorites to land Durant ( still can) despite being dumpster fire of a team.

So what's the point of existence of smaller teams ? Farming system?

NBA is becoming European soccer, you pretty know how it works... You root for Barcelona, but think about how Malaga or whatever small team think about Barcelona "stealing" all of the players for crazy fees... If Malaga has a good team in one season, it's pretty guaranteed that it will be dismantled next season.

Also, it's not like it's just a big vs small market. Just think about cities, usually people will prefer to live in a sunny place like LA or Miami, or a cosmopolitan city like NY or SF than living in Cleveland, New Orleans or Milwaukee. That's why small teams need to keep the players that like their cities (Orlando w/ Vuc, Charlotte w/ Kemba, etc).

[woosah]

I really don't see how will Magic, and most of mid and small market team be competitive in league where players plot their ways to XY destinations just because they can make 5 times more off court money.
You literally have Irving leaving Celtics to go to Brooklyn to play with Joe Harris and Allen just to be in Brooklyn.
Lakers are walking disaster of franchise yet here they are with Davis and Lebron, because it's LA.
Lou Williams took huge paycut to stay with Clippers because he likes LA.

Seems like only Knicks can't get themselfs into this, and even they were favorites to land Durant ( still can) despite being dumpster fire of a team.

So what's the point of existence of smaller teams ? Farming system?

They have to have someone to beat up on right? Remember Kobe dunking on the kid? The lakers are Kobe and the other teams in the league are the kid lol.
Kidding, but only to a degree. They don't even support NY teams like this, or Boston and the Clippers so it isn't big market so much as the lakers in particular. It had been exposed as a myth that players prefer to go there because they are the best, and that it was need to go there to make more money. A major player wanting to go there even when they suck isn't good for all the other teams. "Cause we're the lakers" seems like a good thing again, and even if you DO secure your player through drafting and you invest and help him to grow, they will just pluck him when it seems good to them with media help of constant reinforcement of the message that everything is better in LA, and in LA you will win, blah blah blah. So now "nobody teams" just hope to strike in a bad situation like Toronto did or hope to get a Giannis who doesn't seem enamored with the bigger markets (YET). This is what we are reduced to?

[pepe1991]

I really don't see how will Magic, and most of mid and small market team be competitive in league where players plot their ways to XY destinations just because they can make 5 times more off court money.
You literally have Irving leaving Celtics to go to Brooklyn to play with Joe Harris and Allen just to be in Brooklyn.
Lakers are walking disaster of franchise yet here they are with Davis and Lebron, because it's LA.
Lou Williams took huge paycut to stay with Clippers because he likes LA.

Seems like only Knicks can't get themselfs into this, and even they were favorites to land Durant ( still can) despite being dumpster fire of a team.

So what's the point of existence of smaller teams ? Farming system?

NBA is becoming European soccer, you pretty know how it works... You root for Barcelona, but think about how Malaga or whatever small team think about Barcelona "stealing" all of the players for crazy fees... If Malaga has a good team in one season, it's pretty guaranteed that it will be dismantled next season.

Also, it's not like it's just a big vs small market. Just think about cities, usually people will prefer to live in a sunny place like LA or Miami, or a cosmopolitan city like NY or SF than living in Cleveland, New Orleans or Milwaukee. That's why small teams need to keep the players that like their cities (Orlando w/ Vuc, Charlotte w/ Kemba, etc).

Pretty much. Only way how small teams can be competitive and keep players is by brutal overpay, yet because of it, they will never be contender because they will need more peaces ( that simply won't resign), so it's double edged sword. Where one Warriors can swallow $300M in luxury, other teams can't go $20 over luxury tax.

My love for soccer shrinked throughy years because of it. This year Real Madrid flat out sucked, and boom, within two days they just dumped enormous money on Hazard and Jović and now they are back.
Identical was with Lakers.
Front office with Mitch and Jim sucked, Jeanie is somehow even worst, Pelinka backstabbing Magic, but who cares, as long Hollywood is next door , superstars will knock on their doors.

[tiderulz]

I really don't see how will Magic, and most of mid and small market team be competitive in league where players plot their ways to XY destinations just because they can make 5 times more off court money.
You literally have Irving leaving Celtics to go to Brooklyn to play with Joe Harris and Allen just to be in Brooklyn.
Lakers are walking disaster of franchise yet here they are with Davis and Lebron, because it's LA.
Lou Williams took huge paycut to stay with Clippers because he likes LA.

Seems like only Knicks can't get themselfs into this, and even they were favorites to land Durant ( still can) despite being dumpster fire of a team.

So what's the point of existence of smaller teams ? Farming system?

i dont believe thats the case. Yes, they can make more money but not that much. And in today's world, they can make money in small markets.

Why was Davis so desperate to leave Pelicans ? It was not for money made in club, it was all about him going to bigger market.
Same happend to Magic with Dwight.
Leonard same story.

Durant , Curry and Lebron actually make more money OUTSIDE NBA ( per year ) than with a club. Main reason? Exposure of media. Pretty much only reason why Lebron wanted to go to LA.


Durant's contracts outside NBA are:
Rubrik - stationed in California
Lime- stationed in California
Postmates -stationed in California


Lebron's
Blaze pizza- stationed in California
2 k sports- stationed in California
Beats by Dre -stationed in California


It's not hard to put up 2 and 2 together to see bigger picture.

1 - Rich Paul
2 - Dwight had a new agent that sold him on Brooklyn
3 - Leonard just wants to go back home in LA/California

doesnt matter where people have contracts from, that is usually where the business is located, but they want stars. Stars can endorse products from anywhere

[tiderulz]

I really don't see how will Magic, and most of mid and small market team be competitive in league where players plot their ways to XY destinations just because they can make 5 times more off court money.
You literally have Irving leaving Celtics to go to Brooklyn to play with Joe Harris and Allen just to be in Brooklyn.
Lakers are walking disaster of franchise yet here they are with Davis and Lebron, because it's LA.
Lou Williams took huge paycut to stay with Clippers because he likes LA.

Seems like only Knicks can't get themselfs into this, and even they were favorites to land Durant ( still can) despite being dumpster fire of a team.

So what's the point of existence of smaller teams ? Farming system?

NBA is becoming European soccer, you pretty know how it works... You root for Barcelona, but think about how Malaga or whatever small team think about Barcelona "stealing" all of the players for crazy fees... If Malaga has a good team in one season, it's pretty guaranteed that it will be dismantled next season.

Also, it's not like it's just a big vs small market. Just think about cities, usually people will prefer to live in a sunny place like LA or Miami, or a cosmopolitan city like NY or SF than living in Cleveland, New Orleans or Milwaukee. That's why small teams need to keep the players that like their cities (Orlando w/ Vuc, Charlotte w/ Kemba, etc).

Pretty much. Only way how small teams can be competitive and keep players is by brutal overpay, yet because of it, they will never be contender because they will need more peaces ( that simply won't resign), so it's double edged sword. Where one Warriors can swallow $300M in luxury, other teams can't go $20 over luxury tax.

My love for soccer shrinked throughy years because of it. This year Real Madrid flat out sucked, and boom, within two days they just dumped enormous money on Hazard and Jović and now they are back.
Identical was with Lakers.
Front office with Mitch and Jim sucked, Jeanie is somehow even worst, Pelinka backstabbing Magic, but who cares, as long Hollywood is next door , superstars will knock on their doors.

how has San Antonio always competed? Meanwhile, the Knicks have been bad since Ewing left. Lakers with Kobe retiring. Chicago hasnt done anything since Rose left. Detroit? big markets dont always win too. Its the collection of players.

[tiderulz]

I really don't see how will Magic, and most of mid and small market team be competitive in league where players plot their ways to XY destinations just because they can make 5 times more off court money.
You literally have Irving leaving Celtics to go to Brooklyn to play with Joe Harris and Allen just to be in Brooklyn.
Lakers are walking disaster of franchise yet here they are with Davis and Lebron, because it's LA.
Lou Williams took huge paycut to stay with Clippers because he likes LA.

Seems like only Knicks can't get themselfs into this, and even they were favorites to land Durant ( still can) despite being dumpster fire of a team.

So what's the point of existence of smaller teams ? Farming system?

why do you even come on here and profess to be a Magic fan, if in your opinion the Magic will never compete, never last, always make bad decisions...

[pepe1991]

i dont believe thats the case. Yes, they can make more money but not that much. And in today's world, they can make money in small markets.

Why was Davis so desperate to leave Pelicans ? It was not for money made in club, it was all about him going to bigger market.
Same happend to Magic with Dwight.
Leonard same story.

Durant , Curry and Lebron actually make more money OUTSIDE NBA ( per year ) than with a club. Main reason? Exposure of media. Pretty much only reason why Lebron wanted to go to LA.


Durant's contracts outside NBA are:
Rubrik - stationed in California
Lime- stationed in California
Postmates -stationed in California


Lebron's
Blaze pizza- stationed in California
2 k sports- stationed in California
Beats by Dre -stationed in California


It's not hard to put up 2 and 2 together to see bigger picture.

1 - Rich Paul
2 - Dwight had a new agent that sold him on Brooklyn
3 - Leonard just wants to go back home in LA/California

doesnt matter where people have contracts from, that is usually where the business is located, but they want stars. Stars can endorse products from anywhere

Yet they all prefer big markets because,reasons? Why Lebron didn't sign with Memphis?

[tiderulz]

Why was Davis so desperate to leave Pelicans ? It was not for money made in club, it was all about him going to bigger market.
Same happend to Magic with Dwight.
Leonard same story.

Durant , Curry and Lebron actually make more money OUTSIDE NBA ( per year ) than with a club. Main reason? Exposure of media. Pretty much only reason why Lebron wanted to go to LA.


Durant's contracts outside NBA are:
Rubrik - stationed in California
Lime- stationed in California
Postmates -stationed in California


Lebron's
Blaze pizza- stationed in California
2 k sports- stationed in California
Beats by Dre -stationed in California


It's not hard to put up 2 and 2 together to see bigger picture.

1 - Rich Paul
2 - Dwight had a new agent that sold him on Brooklyn
3 - Leonard just wants to go back home in LA/California

doesnt matter where people have contracts from, that is usually where the business is located, but they want stars. Stars can endorse products from anywhere

Yet they all prefer big markets because,reasons? Why Lebron didn't sign with Memphis?

Why didnt he ask for DC? NY? Brooklyn? those are big markets

[MoMM]

1 - Rich Paul
2 - Dwight had a new agent that sold him on Brooklyn
3 - Leonard just wants to go back home in LA/California

doesnt matter where people have contracts from, that is usually where the business is located, but they want stars. Stars can endorse products from anywhere

Yet they all prefer big markets because,reasons? Why Lebron didn't sign with Memphis?

Why didnt he ask for DC? NY? Brooklyn? those are big markets

How many titles has DC, NY and Brooklyn won in the past?

[MoMM]

NBA is becoming European soccer, you pretty know how it works... You root for Barcelona, but think about how Malaga or whatever small team think about Barcelona "stealing" all of the players for crazy fees... If Malaga has a good team in one season, it's pretty guaranteed that it will be dismantled next season.

Also, it's not like it's just a big vs small market. Just think about cities, usually people will prefer to live in a sunny place like LA or Miami, or a cosmopolitan city like NY or SF than living in Cleveland, New Orleans or Milwaukee. That's why small teams need to keep the players that like their cities (Orlando w/ Vuc, Charlotte w/ Kemba, etc).

Pretty much. Only way how small teams can be competitive and keep players is by brutal overpay, yet because of it, they will never be contender because they will need more peaces ( that simply won't resign), so it's double edged sword. Where one Warriors can swallow $300M in luxury, other teams can't go $20 over luxury tax.

My love for soccer shrinked throughy years because of it. This year Real Madrid flat out sucked, and boom, within two days they just dumped enormous money on Hazard and Jović and now they are back.
Identical was with Lakers.
Front office with Mitch and Jim sucked, Jeanie is somehow even worst, Pelinka backstabbing Magic, but who cares, as long Hollywood is next door , superstars will knock on their doors.

how has San Antonio always competed?

Perhaps they know who they should draft? Maybe it's a mix of low profile players plus european ones. Those are the ones that play their entire career in one team.

[tiderulz]

Yet they all prefer big markets because,reasons? Why Lebron didn't sign with Memphis?

Why didnt he ask for DC? NY? Brooklyn? those are big markets

How many titles has DC, NY and Brooklyn won in the past?

the question was about small markets vs big markets. not who won more recently

[pepe1991]

1 - Rich Paul
2 - Dwight had a new agent that sold him on Brooklyn
3 - Leonard just wants to go back home in LA/California

doesnt matter where people have contracts from, that is usually where the business is located, but they want stars. Stars can endorse products from anywhere

Yet they all prefer big markets because,reasons? Why Lebron didn't sign with Memphis?

Why didnt he ask for DC? NY? Brooklyn? those are big markets

Why Irving is going to Brooklyn? Because he enjoys Joe Harris and company of Jared Dudley ? Or because they moved from Jersey to Brooklyn ?
Why is KD linked with Knicks, not Magic, Memphis , Sacramento ? From basketball perspective only, Knicks are the worst team in nba.


It's pretty obvious.
Teams like Spurs remain competitive by picking Europien and/or low profile players, yet even they are slipping last few years.

Why yesterday it was reported that Davis will exlore FA no matter who trades for him, yet when LAKERS traded for him, it was reported he will resign?

You get to Lakers/Knicks and you by default you are:
talking point of basketball world
make more money than anywhere else
you win title and since all media are located in LA, they make you 5 times bigger star than you are (Kobe- Duncan who is greater debate isn't really debate, people pick Kobe due media brainwash, in reality Duncan is far superior player and was best player on championship team 3 times. Kobe was only once, yet due his media created popularity he won Finals MVP in 2010 on name value only, where Pau literally lead league in everything that matters. But pss, don't tell enbody how " Mr clucth " was 6-24 in game 7, with 4 turnovers, 2 assists and bricked everything , where Pau had 19 points, 18 rebounds, 4 assists and +/- of +7 , team high.) Guy won finals mvp on 28 ppg while shooting 40% FG, 30% for 3. That's some Westbrook level , but heey it's Kobe.

[tiderulz]

Yet they all prefer big markets because,reasons? Why Lebron didn't sign with Memphis?

Why didnt he ask for DC? NY? Brooklyn? those are big markets

Why Irving is going to Brooklyn? Because he enjoys Joe Harris and company of Jared Dudley ? Or because they moved from Jersey to Brooklyn ?
Why is KD linked with Knicks, not Magic, Memphis , Sacramento ? From basketball perspective only, Knicks are the worst team in nba.


It's pretty obvious.
Teams like Spurs remain competitive by picking Europien and/or low profile players, yet even they are slipping last few years.

Why yesterday it was reported that Davis will exlore FA no matter who trades for him, yet when LAKERS traded for him, it was reported he will resign?

You get to Lakers/Knicks and you by default you are:
talking point of basketball world
make more money than anywhere else
you win title and since all media are located in LA, they make you 5 times bigger star than you are (Kobe- Duncan who is greater debate isn't really debate, people pick Kobe due media brainwash, in reality Duncan is far superior player and was best player on championship team 3 times. Kobe was only once, yet due his media created popularity he won Finals MVP in 2010 on name value only, where Pau literally lead league in everything that matters. )

he grew up 20 mins from Brooklyn. that just might have a bit to do it with. KD linked to NY because he can team up with someone there. Orlando, Memphis, they cant bring in 1 let alone 2 stars. Yes, market does play a part to it, but he was fine in OKC until he got tired of Westbrook and it wasnt like he wasnt endorsing products or people didnt know his name.

and Davis, again, Rich Paul. getting his top 2 stars in LA and on the same team.

[BadMofoPimp]

Did they?

Davis is amazing but what has he been able to lead his team to?

They sold the farm to get him and Lebron isn’t getting younger.

If Kawhi signs there then I change my tune entirely. But I’m not ready to declare a new Dynasty for the Lakers.

The NBA did gift the Lakers with the 4th pick in the draft to help facilitate this trade.

Those tin foil hats never go out of style!

The irony in Cleveland AND Lakers jumping 8 spots for Lebrons benefit hasn't happened for any other team in the modern age.

[drsd]

So what's the point of existence of smaller teams ? Farming system?

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2016:




2019:

[pepe1991]

So what's the point of existence of smaller teams ? Farming system?

2014:




2016:




2019:

Spurs core was :
Duncan without any ego
2 foreign players
Leonard ( rookie contract, still left )

Cavs just happend to be team that Lebron grew up near by

Raptors are not small market team by any streach of imagination

Just look at this

According to the NBA, around half of the Canadian population, around 18.2 million viewers, tuned in for all or part of the 2019 NBA finals.

Their market is whole damn Canada