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Post#761 » by BobbieL » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:30 pm

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Wilber85 wrote:Trade idea :

Suns trade TJ and #6 to the Bulls for Otto Porter , then we sign russell

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Just take hunter



Another guy on twitter Ross @legionofhoops suggesting the Suns are interested in DLo.

Who would be better with Russell - Clarke or Hunter?

Also it would be the contract Booker signed right? So the 27m first year for cap purposes and not the 38 for Durant and whatever for Kawhi , Klay ,Kemba level of “max player”?

If so - move Josh and Tyler pretty much gets Russell
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Post#762 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:30 pm

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My money is on Culver :wink: They were just as high on him as we are, And have much better assets to get this done. Only question is do they keep the 8 and take Reddish? Or do they trade all 3 picks ?

Also, If Culver is gone at 4 to the Hawks, Then I'd honestly expect the Cavs to take Hunter, But what if they threw everyone a wildcard and took Cam Reddish themselves at 5. Who would you choose from - Garland, Hunter, White, and Clarke?


Hunter wouldn't surprise me for the Hawks. They don't really need a secondary ball handler next to Young, and they already actually have Huerter at the 2 from last year who is a really good passer and a great shooter, but they have a big hole at the 3...Prince was their starter. They do have Crabbe for a year but need someone long term. And Schlenk being from the Warriors loves shooters (ie..Len, Dedmon, Collins shooting 3s) and they need D.

Hunter seems a better fit for them than Culver. But Culver makes perfect sense for the Cavs.


I hear ya, But one of the rumors that I came across talked about them trading up for Culver using the 10 and the 17, and then using the 8 on Reddish at the 3. Which is why I mentioned it. :dontknow:
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Post#763 » by Crives » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:36 pm

BobbieL wrote:
Crives wrote:
Wilber85 wrote:Trade idea :

Suns trade TJ and #6 to the Bulls for Otto Porter , then we sign russell

Russell
Booker
Oubre
Porter
Ayton


Just take hunter



Another guy on twitter Ross @legionofhoops suggesting the Suns are interested in DLo.

Who would be better with Russell - Clarke or Hunter?


Clarke feels like the better help defender, rebounder and scorer/finisher.
While hunter will have better 1-1 defense and 3 pt shooting.

I think the private workouts are really important. If Clarke shows progress on his 3 pt shot he’s probably my preferred choice.

The one downside to Hunter.. it feels like we would need to part with Warren if we go down this route.
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Post#764 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:38 pm

BobbieL wrote:
Crives wrote:
Wilber85 wrote:Trade idea :

Suns trade TJ and #6 to the Bulls for Otto Porter , then we sign russell

Russell
Booker
Oubre
Porter
Ayton


Just take hunter



Another guy on twitter Ross @legionofhoops suggesting the Suns are interested in DLo.

Who would be better with Russell - Clarke or Hunter?


I like Clarke personally in that scenario, as we already have Bridges at the 3 in that scenario. And Hunter isn't really known for his shotblocking or rebounding, despite having a 7'2 wingspan. Which is unfortunate.

Although, if Hunter could commit to actual weakside defense and gambling in the passing lanes more using that incredible length, kind of how Bridges does, Then he good become a much better version of what we hoped Warren would become for us. He could be a more athletic Warren with good defense!!! And that has to be an all star caliber player for us.
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Post#766 » by LukasBMW » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:12 pm

Lebron James is the most destructive player of all time.

He left Cleveland in shambles the first time he left.
He left Miami in shambles when he left.
He forced the Cavs to overpay Klutch players and then left them in a nightmare cap situation when he left.

Now he just destroyed the Pelicans AND the Lakers. The Pelicans lost their centerpiece. The Lakers will be paying this price for the next 6 years given these draft pick swaps! Of course, Lebron doesn't care. He'll be long retired.
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Post#767 » by LukasBMW » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:21 pm

Also, Anyone who thinks Rich Paul did right by AD is a fool.

Look at what has happened to Kawai, Cousins, Klay, PG, KD, etc. Serious injuries happen and they seem to be happening more often.

AD is a fragile player. The best thing he could have done is secure a supermax THEN you demand a trade. Secure that bag first!

But instead, Rich Paul (and Lebron James) somehow convince him to delay destroy his rep, demand a trade to the Lakers, and in the process, AD will play a full year risking a HUGE payday.

Even if AD makes it through the year injury free, he will join a Lakers team with a 34-35 year old Lebron James AND a team who has no control of their draft until 2025 (when Davis will be 32)

So Davis is risking a HUGE payday by delaying his extension AND he's joining a team that will be unable to add any talent via draft picks or using draft picks as trade bait until 2025!

All so Lebron can maybe have a 2 year window to win a few more titles.

If AD gets injured this year, the Lakers AND AD are screwed. Absolutely screwed.

Rich Paul and Lebron are destructive scumbags and Lebron is the most destructive and selfish person in NBA history.
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Post#768 » by lilfishi22 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:32 pm

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I take back what I said about the Pels getting a worse deal than if they had dealt AD at the trade deadline. This is magnificent haul and potentially crippling for LA once Lebron hits the tail end of his career and if they are unable to build properly around AD
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Post#769 » by Jdiddy701 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:33 pm

LukasBMW wrote:Also, Anyone who thinks Rich Paul did right by AD is a fool.

Look at what has happened to Kawai, Cousins, Klay, PG, KD, etc. Serious injuries happen and they seem to be happening more often.

AD is a fragile player. The best thing he could have done is secure a supermax THEN you demand a trade. Secure that bag first!

But instead, Rich Paul (and Lebron James) somehow convince him to delay destroy his rep, demand a trade to the Lakers, and in the process, AD will play a full year risking a HUGE payday.

Even if AD makes it through the year injury free, he will join a Lakers team with a 34-35 year old Lebron James AND a team who has no control of their draft until 2025 (when Davis will be 32)

So Davis is risking a HUGE payday by delaying his extension AND he's joining a team that will be unable to add any talent via draft picks or using draft picks as trade bait until 2025!

All so Lebron can maybe have a 2 year window to win a few more titles.

If AD gets injured this year, the Lakers AND AD are screwed. Absolutely screwed.

Rich Paul and Lebron are destructive scumbags and Lebron is the most destructive and selfish person in NBA history.


I also don’t think it’s a smart idea to have your biggest clients on the same team. I can’t stand Rich Paul and everything he stands for. I can’t think of a player I actually like that has Rich Paul as their agent (I’m too lazy to change my avi). He ruined AD’s image forever and hope LA rots.


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Post#770 » by handsome salary » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:38 pm

Lakers get a top ten player. One that Ayton is gonna struggle against 4X a year. Right now it's such a win for the Lakers.

There is no clue who else they can slot in. Veterans looking for a ring, cheap quality pickups.This does not help the worst team in the Pacific/Western Conference.
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Post#771 » by lilfishi22 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:58 pm

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GoranTragic wrote:- Lakers sign LeBron in the offseason
- AD signs with Klutch (LeBron) two months later
- AD demands trade to the Lakers
- Lakers jump 7 spots and get the #4 pick
- Pelicans get the #1 pick
- Lakers trade for AD using #4 pick

BONUS

- Durant out for next season
- Thompson out for next season

Any idiot could see that this was planned. Not just by LeBron/Klutch but also the NBA.


I was never one to believe that the draft was rigged, but after seeing how things played out this year, I think it's plain to see that the draft has a lil "design" to it.You'd have to be a complete fool to believe that the 2 teams involved in this whole Anthony Davis fiasco just happened to move up in the draft by "chance" or "luck".My gut tells me the draft lottery this year was certainly rigged.I don't know how they do it.Maybe the machines that draw the balls are rigged?I don't know.There's a fishy stench all over this one

Why does one have to be a "complete fool" to accept it's happened? Do I have to be a complete fool to believe someone I know won the lottery by chance or luck even though the chances of it happening it like 1 in 14m? Something as simple as me getting a free membership this past weekend to an auto store may have required a million different things to have happened in the way it did for me to get that and such a combination would be so statically impossible that somehow I MUST have been in cahoots with this multi-million dollar auto franchise for it to have happened. A lot of things happen day to day that in itself are unnoticed despite their individual unlikeliness but it's only when you look back and combine the chances of each thing happening that they become a near statistical impossibility and would logically require "rigging" for it to occur in the combination and sequence of events.

If you look at each individual move, they are unspectacular. It's only when you put it together in sequence does it seem like it's rigged.

- Lakers sign LeBron in the offseason: Lebron going to the biggest market on and off the court? Not really crazy especially since he has significant business in LA
- AD signs with Klutch (LeBron) two months later: It's no secret he wanted to go to a big market; LAbron is the biggest market and Klutch is his best way to get there
- AD demands trade to the Lakers: Unprofessional but logical if he wants to play with another star.
- Lakers jump 7 spots and get the #4 pick: 2.8% chance of it happening. FAR from a statistical impossibility. Flatted odds helped this
- Pelicans get the #1 pick: 6% chance of it happening, even further from a statistical impossibility.
- Lakers trade for AD using #4 pick: logical since LA have never been one to develop their own stars (Kobe was the last one?)
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Post#772 » by kingstyyyle » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:00 am

handsome salary wrote:Lakers get a top ten player. One that Ayton is gonna struggle against 4X a year. Right now it's such a win for the Lakers.

I agree unfortunately.
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Post#773 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:10 am

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Fo-Real wrote:Watching a couple of the last games last year (Pels, Mavs), MAN I still think Josh has such a dynamic skillset. Notice I said skillset and not brain, his body seems to move too fast for his brain sometimes. His ball handling and shooting stroke both got better after he was tasked with working on pg skills for last year. If his 3 ball got a little better I have no doubt he could be coached to run some streaches in the backcourt with point Book off the bench for short streaches of course, I want a real pg on this team. Dont think he gets enough credit for his passing, thought he was the only one who consistently looked to feed Ayton. With Oubre and Bridges on this roster, the only fit for Josh would be Combo guard but I still think if he developes as much this coming season as he did last (again ball handling and shooting stroke), he has the size, athletisim and physical tools to be a dynamic player. I still low key hope that Monty (coach and system number what??? 5???) could have some success at cultivating Josh, the dude has the ability to just be dynamic. Truly think Josh was miles ahead of Melton or Okobo at running the point, no way he was worse with this **** system and d league roster. I hope he matures, learns and stays, no one matches his quickness energy and fire on this team.

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The truth is that Josh Jackson is talented, he has all the tools to be a good two-way player in the league.

What I most like about him is his intensity and agressive nature on both ends of the floor. He just never stops trying, he has a relentless motor... and that is an skill.

The problem that he has in his game is that he commits A LOT of mistakes.

On defense (gambling for steals, fouling, trying too much hard...) and on offense (turnovers, tough long shots, bad finisher at the rim...).

I think that he wants to be THE MAN, his usage is huge for a player who needs to be more defensive minded and on offense a garbage man/cutter/slasher who can provide some help as a ball handler/creator WHEN needed.

His vision on the court is good, but his execution gets too wild so many times.
He does not anticipate defenders, and that is why he loses the ball a lot in his passes.

I would be OK having him on the roster next season if he is more humble and accepts a lesser role on offense and begins from 0 in his development. Show that you deserve to have the ball in your hands over other players.

No more **** off the court and all work and all seriousness as a professional NBA player.
That would be the way to go and I would cheer again for him as a Sun player.

Perfect summary of Josh.

Should have all the talent physical profile to be a really good player but so far has been one of those prospects who had all the flash, none of the substance and ends up not panning out. That is the unfortunate reality right now. I don't mind having him back next season either even though he's kinda expensive for a guy who isn't a positive player but I'm not high on him
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Post#774 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:15 am

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I'm not a sneaker head or anything but aren't these just slightly customised AF1's?
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Post#775 » by Kerrsed » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:20 am

lilfishi22 wrote:I'm not a sneaker head or anything but aren't these just slightly customised AF1's?


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Post#776 » by Wilber85 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:28 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:I'm not a sneaker head or anything but aren't these just slightly customised AF1's?


Yes, its a step below having an actual Signature Shoe.


Air Force ones soles are bigger
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Post#777 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:30 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:I'm not a sneaker head or anything but aren't these just slightly customised AF1's?


Yes, its a step below having an actual Signature Shoe.


Air Force ones soles are bigger

Just from a design standpoint, they aren't really that different to AF1's so I dunno what's so fire about it? :dontknow:
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Post#778 » by bwgood77 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:32 am

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Yes, its a step below having an actual Signature Shoe.


Air Force ones soles are bigger

Just from a design standpoint, they aren't really that different to AF1's so I dunno what's so fire about it? :dontknow:


It says Book on that strip.
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Post#779 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:34 am

bwgood77 wrote:
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Air Force ones soles are bigger

Just from a design standpoint, they aren't really that different to AF1's so I dunno what's so fire about it? :dontknow:


It says Book on that strip.

lol it's just a tag. Could probably cost you about $10 to get it made

The blue outline is kinda cool though
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Post#780 » by WeekapaugGroove » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:48 am

I don't like Rich Paul and some of his tactics but ultimately his clients are grown ass men who hire him and can fire him. I have a hard time just blaming Paul in this stuff.

And for as messy as it played out the pels are in a hell of a lot better spot than they would have been if AD just lead them on and walked next summer.

Oh I want to say this ahead of time if Kawhi goes to the Lakers I might just take up watching hockey or something. I could somewhat handle the warriors super team because I never really hated them and did like watching their style of play. But a Lakers super team is a whole other animal.

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