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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1601 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:22 pm

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No, it's not the team he plays with at all. Yeah, they suck. But Carsen needs to improve a lot his offensive awareness, as well as how natural he looks playmaking for others. Seriously, if you haven't been on this thread one week before the draft, think twice before you post. Watching a 10 minute highlight video is not scouting. I mean this with all the love in my heart.

But let's try to keep this thread clean of overractions. It will gain track a lot now that AD is not an option and we'll probably be drafting for ourselves, so a lot of posters should gain lots of knowledge by reading the thread. Not saying I am a draft expert or anything, but let's keep the quality of the thread high please.

Who the hell do you think you are frigging Danny Ainge. let me break it to you, your a idiot on a message board that really thinks he knows what he's talking about.
You know about as much as everyone else on this board, which is jack ****. Now go back and break down film before your mother call you for supper. GMAFB.

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Bull crap. Big Boy your friend I get it, protect the buddy. You didn't give a damn when he makes his comments toward me however you jump to protect a daily contributor. He's your warning for not doing your job with your buddy. Be fair and I will respect your position but at this time it abuse of power.

"think twice before you post. Watching a 10 minute highlight video is not scouting" Maybe this will help you to be fair with all posters and protect poster that don't comment daily but read the board frequently.


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Post#1603 » by djFan71 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:14 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
m haynes wrote:
m haynes wrote: Who the hell do you think you are frigging Danny Ainge. let me break it to you, your a idiot on a message board that really thinks he knows what he's talking about.
You know about as much as everyone else on this board, which is jack ****. Now go back and break down film before your mother call you for supper. GMAFB.

Warned for attacking another poster. djFan71.
Bull crap. Big Boy your friend I get it, protect the buddy. You didn't give a damn when he makes his comments toward me however you jump to protect a daily contributor. He's your warning for not doing your job with your buddy. Be fair and I will respect your position but at this time it abuse of power.

"think twice before you post. Watching a 10 minute highlight video is not scouting" Maybe this will help you to be fair with all posters and protect poster that don't comment daily but read the board frequently.


Enjoy your time out— cool off then come back.

Thanks, SWC. I was away for a few, but was thinking the same.
M Haynes, BSR's was borderline, your reaction was over the line. And yours was reported by another user (not him). PM me when you get back if you want to discuss it.
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Post#1604 » by Celtics_History_Lesson » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:53 pm

It is because of the Celtics that Dallas get all the good foreign players.


“I was lucky,” Nelson said. “I think a lot of folks for the right reasons just didn’t see the wall ever coming down. I was too dumb and lucky. And I just knew after growing up in the (Boston Celtics) locker room with my dad and (John) Havlicek and (Dave) Cowens and going to practices, I knew what the NBA player walked and talked and looked like.”


https://sports.abs-cbn.com/nba/news/2019/06/15/mavs-illustrate-drafta-s-international-flair-euro-plan-57824




Bill Simmons has not been useful since he went to California, but before then his father and he had the best draft articles.

He did say Marcus Smart would have been top pick in 2013, so he isn't someone to pay attention to.

This is actually good, he and Chad Fraud just before the Celtics won the title.

http://www.espn.com.au/espn/page2/story?page=nbamockdraft/070627

5. BOSTON CELTICS

Bill Simmons selects: Corey Brewer, SG, Florida
At long last, I get to realize my lifelong dream of running the Celtics. For my first act, I'm firing Doc Rivers and hiring Rick Carlisle.


Welcome to ESPN.com's 2007 Interactive NBA Mock Draft.

NBA Insider Chad Ford and Page 2 columnist Bill Simmons made their lottery picks.





The NBA, from 10 mock drafts:

MOST COMMON PICKS

No. 1 (Pelicans): Zion Williamson (10)
No. 2 (Grizzlies): Ja Morant (10)
No. 3 (Knicks): R.J. Barrett (10)
No. 4 (Lakers): Darius Garland (7)
No. 5 (Cavaliers): Jarrett Culver (6)
No. 6 (Suns): De’Andre Hunter (4)
No. 7 (Bulls): Coby White (8)
No. 8 (Hawks): Cam Reddish (8)
No. 9 (Wizards): Sekou Doumbouya (6)
No. 10 (Hawks): Jaxson Hayes (6)
No. 11 (Timberwolves): Rui Hachimura (4)
No. 12 (Hornets): Brandon Clarke, Hachimura, Hayes (2)
No. 13 (Heat): Nassir Little (3)
No. 14 (Celtics): Tyler Herro, Kentucky (3)



14. Brandon Clarke

14. Jaxson Hayes

14. Goga Bitadze

14. Tyler Herro

14. Rui Hachimura

14. Tyler Herro

14. PJ Washington

14. Kevin Porter Jr.

14. Brandon Clarke

14. Tyler Herro
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1605 » by BleedGreen1989 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:06 am

Bol Bol is my dude. Mind you I don’t watch college basketball and am generally an awful evaluator of 18-19 year olds.

But I’m all about the dice roll with these picks. Give me the boom or bust, not the “solid” 3&D guy or the scrappy guard that lacks skills.
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Post#1606 » by GregB » Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:30 am

BleedGreen1989 wrote:Bol Bol is my dude. Mind you I don’t watch college basketball and am generally an awful evaluator of 18-19 year olds.

But I’m all about the dice roll with these picks. Give me the boom or bust, not the “solid” 3&D guy or the scrappy guard that lacks skills.


He’s not quick enough laterally for us to draft him. We love bigs that can switch and move their feet on D. Don’t see it.
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Post#1607 » by Andrew McCeltic » Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:43 am

The best case for Bol is probably that he can get his shot anywhere at any time, hit 40 percent from beyond the arc, and block shots, while struggling to rebound, carve out space on the court, or play defense in any meaningful way
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1608 » by robdog_5 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:04 am

I do not want Bol Bol. Maybe as a 3rd pick flyer.

I like
Pj Washington
Brandon Clarke
Coming around on
Herro
Claxton
Porter
As for 20 and 22
I really want players that can help now as in role players
Cameron Johnson or Carsen Edwards
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Post#1609 » by bucknersrevenge » Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:31 am

I think this guy may be our draft and stash down in the G

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It was in January the family began thinking about the NBA. Teams came to watch Lecque. He received an invite to the NBA Scouting Combine and registered the top vertical leap, 43 inches. He’s had nine workouts and will have three more, including a second one with the Celtics.


https://nypost.com/2019/06/16/tracking-instagram-famous-dunk-stars-journey-to-nba-draft/

Lecque is getting the now famous 2nd workout treatment from Danny who has apparently been scouting him for a while now.

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Post#1610 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:38 am

Yeah, that's not good...

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Post#1611 » by Darthlukey » Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:16 am

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Yeah, that's not good...

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Post#1612 » by Wes-J » Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:05 am

Really surprised Ainge did not go Siakam in the draft. Didn't see him in college but I recall being very impressed with him at the NBA combine showing himself quite well against prospects supposedly rated higher than him at the time. Nobody will ever forget Giannis but come on he was very tough to gauge, Milwaukee just got really lucky. I was far more annoyed with passing on Gobert whom I wanted badly.

I'm hoping we get 2 or 3 from this pool of players:

Bol Bol
Clarke
Cam J
Hachimura
Windler
Edwards

Love LeQue in the 2nd

Maybe Dombouya is the one worth trading up for. For me he's the most intriguing prospect on the top 10 bubble.
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Post#1613 » by bucknersrevenge » Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:28 am

Wes-J wrote:Really surprised Ainge did not go Siakam in the draft. Didn't see him in college but I recall being very impressed with him at the NBA combine showing himself quite well against prospects supposedly rated higher than him at the time. Nobody will ever forget Giannis but come on he was very tough to gauge, Milwaukee just got really lucky. I was far more annoyed with passing on Gobert whom I wanted badly.

I'm hoping we get 2 or 3 from this pool of players:

Bol Bol
Clarke
Cam J
Hachimura
Windler
Edwards

Love LeQue in the 2nd

Maybe Dombouya is the one worth trading up for. For me he's the most intriguing prospect on the top 10 bubble.


I do whatever is necessary to secure Brandon Clarke if I'm Danny. If it means using a later pick to trade up so be it. I look at Clarke and defensively, I see the next Draymond. I think his impact could be that significant on the defensive end for this team. A core of Smart, Brown, Tatum, and Clarke is a foundation worth trying to build on. 2 scorers and 2 excellent dirty work complementary players.

Edwards would be perfect as a microwave scorer and ballhandler off the bench. Obviously has a lot to learn about running a team but guys with his skillset always seem to do well here. Plus he would never be asked to facilitate the offense by himself out there. Maybe you play a kid like him with Hayward and/or Al (assuming he comes back).

I don't know if Lecque makes it to 51 anymore. Danny might have to draft him in the first round and send him to the G-League for the year if he wants him that badly.

If you can't get Clarke, hopefully Nic Claxton is still there.
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Post#1614 » by FlatearthZorro » Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:37 am

bucknersrevenge wrote:
Wes-J wrote:Really surprised Ainge did not go Siakam in the draft. Didn't see him in college but I recall being very impressed with him at the NBA combine showing himself quite well against prospects supposedly rated higher than him at the time. Nobody will ever forget Giannis but come on he was very tough to gauge, Milwaukee just got really lucky. I was far more annoyed with passing on Gobert whom I wanted badly.

I'm hoping we get 2 or 3 from this pool of players:

Bol Bol
Clarke
Cam J
Hachimura
Windler
Edwards

Love LeQue in the 2nd

Maybe Dombouya is the one worth trading up for. For me he's the most intriguing prospect on the top 10 bubble.


I do whatever is necessary to secure Brandon Clarke if I'm Danny. If it means using a later pick to trade up so be it. I look at Clarke and defensively, I see the next Draymond. I think his impact could be that significant on the defensive end for this team. A core of Smart, Brown, Tatum, and Clarke is a foundation worth trying to build on. 2 scorers and 2 excellent dirty work complementary players.

Edwards would be perfect as a microwave scorer and ballhandler off the bench. Obviously has a lot to learn about running a team but guys with his skillset always seem to do well here. Plus he would never be asked to facilitate the offense by himself out there. Maybe you play a kid like him with Hayward and/or Al (assuming he comes back).

I don't know if Lecque makes it to 51 anymore. Danny might have to draft him in the first round and send him to the G-League for the year if he wants him that badly.

If you can't get Clarke, hopefully Nic Claxton is still there.


If Danny draft Lecque in the 1st, I might lose it a bit. I'd take Thybulle over Lecque, easy. To me Thybulle can also fit our bench in a great way. ;) 7'1 wingspawn, 6'6, strong, he's my pick if he's there at #22(or Claxton)... :D I want a big guy at #14, Sekou is the dream by moving up. If not I'd settle for any combo of Herro plus Clarke or Bitadze/Washington/Clarke.
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1615 » by sam_I_am » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:05 am

FlatearthZorro wrote:
bucknersrevenge wrote:
Wes-J wrote:Really surprised Ainge did not go Siakam in the draft. Didn't see him in college but I recall being very impressed with him at the NBA combine showing himself quite well against prospects supposedly rated higher than him at the time. Nobody will ever forget Giannis but come on he was very tough to gauge, Milwaukee just got really lucky. I was far more annoyed with passing on Gobert whom I wanted badly.

I'm hoping we get 2 or 3 from this pool of players:

Bol Bol
Clarke
Cam J
Hachimura
Windler
Edwards

Love LeQue in the 2nd

Maybe Dombouya is the one worth trading up for. For me he's the most intriguing prospect on the top 10 bubble.


I do whatever is necessary to secure Brandon Clarke if I'm Danny. If it means using a later pick to trade up so be it. I look at Clarke and defensively, I see the next Draymond. I think his impact could be that significant on the defensive end for this team. A core of Smart, Brown, Tatum, and Clarke is a foundation worth trying to build on. 2 scorers and 2 excellent dirty work complementary players.

Edwards would be perfect as a microwave scorer and ballhandler off the bench. Obviously has a lot to learn about running a team but guys with his skillset always seem to do well here. Plus he would never be asked to facilitate the offense by himself out there. Maybe you play a kid like him with Hayward and/or Al (assuming he comes back).

I don't know if Lecque makes it to 51 anymore. Danny might have to draft him in the first round and send him to the G-League for the year if he wants him that badly.

If you can't get Clarke, hopefully Nic Claxton is still there.


If Danny draft Lecque in the 1st, I might lose it a bit. I'd take Thybulle over Lecque, easy. To me Thybulle can also fit our bench in a great way. ;) 7'1 wingspawn, 6'6, strong, he's my pick if he's there at #22(or Claxton)... :D I want a big guy at #14, Sekou is the dream by moving up. If not I'd settle for any combo of Herro plus Clarke or Bitadze/Washington/Clarke.


I never heard of Lecque until 10 minutes ago but watching that effortless 43 inch vertical and realizing he is a 19 yo HS grad.....sign me up. Russell Westbrook lite right there. If you can get talent like that at 51 .... no brainer.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1616 » by Smog » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:20 am

sam_I_am wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:
bucknersrevenge wrote:
I do whatever is necessary to secure Brandon Clarke if I'm Danny. If it means using a later pick to trade up so be it. I look at Clarke and defensively, I see the next Draymond. I think his impact could be that significant on the defensive end for this team. A core of Smart, Brown, Tatum, and Clarke is a foundation worth trying to build on. 2 scorers and 2 excellent dirty work complementary players.

Edwards would be perfect as a microwave scorer and ballhandler off the bench. Obviously has a lot to learn about running a team but guys with his skillset always seem to do well here. Plus he would never be asked to facilitate the offense by himself out there. Maybe you play a kid like him with Hayward and/or Al (assuming he comes back).

I don't know if Lecque makes it to 51 anymore. Danny might have to draft him in the first round and send him to the G-League for the year if he wants him that badly.

If you can't get Clarke, hopefully Nic Claxton is still there.


If Danny draft Lecque in the 1st, I might lose it a bit. I'd take Thybulle over Lecque, easy. To me Thybulle can also fit our bench in a great way. ;) 7'1 wingspawn, 6'6, strong, he's my pick if he's there at #22(or Claxton)... :D I want a big guy at #14, Sekou is the dream by moving up. If not I'd settle for any combo of Herro plus Clarke or Bitadze/Washington/Clarke.


I never heard of Lecque until 10 minutes ago but watching that effortless 43 inch vertical and realizing he is a 19 yo HS grad.....sign me up. Russell Westbrook lite right there. If you can get talent like that at 51 .... no brainer.


Lecque won’t last to 51 anymore. You might have to take him in the first. People should probably be prepared for that.

Lecque is exactly the sort of player people have knocked Ainge for not taking in the past. He’s a high-upside lottery ticket, not a gritty overachiever whose value is tied up in defensive effort. Like a lot of Ainge projects, however, he’s a draft prospect whose value is being suppressed by poor shooting results, and Ainge has actually done well with a lot of those picks, even the ones who never learned to shoot - think Rondo, but also Avery Bradley or Tony Allen or even Jaylen Brown.

If people are going to hammer Ainge for not taking someone like Giannis, they shouldn’t complain about Lecque if he’s the pick. This is another kid who’s far away but has unique physical gifts.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1617 » by FlatearthZorro » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:56 am

Smog wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:
If Danny draft Lecque in the 1st, I might lose it a bit. I'd take Thybulle over Lecque, easy. To me Thybulle can also fit our bench in a great way. ;) 7'1 wingspawn, 6'6, strong, he's my pick if he's there at #22(or Claxton)... :D I want a big guy at #14, Sekou is the dream by moving up. If not I'd settle for any combo of Herro plus Clarke or Bitadze/Washington/Clarke.


I never heard of Lecque until 10 minutes ago but watching that effortless 43 inch vertical and realizing he is a 19 yo HS grad.....sign me up. Russell Westbrook lite right there. If you can get talent like that at 51 .... no brainer.


Lecque won’t last to 51 anymore. You might have to take him in the first. People should probably be prepared for that.

Lecque is exactly the sort of player people have knocked Ainge for not taking in the past. He’s a high-upside lottery ticket, not a gritty overachiever whose value is tied up in defensive effort. Like a lot of Ainge projects, however, he’s a draft prospect whose value is being suppressed by poor shooting results, and Ainge has actually done well with a lot of those picks, even the ones who never learned to shoot - think Rondo, but also Avery Bradley or Tony Allen or even Jaylen Brown.

If people are going to hammer Ainge for not taking someone like Giannis, they shouldn’t complain about Lecque if he’s the pick. This is another kid who’s far away but has unique physical gifts.



I guess I agree. Would be good if he picks him 20-22... Hopefully he doesn't get him at 14, cause it seems likely we will select him- 2nd workouts with the C's usually mean there's at least a good likelihood that you get drafted by the C's by Danny's standards.
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Post#1618 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:06 pm

Give me Bol Bol. Jersey sales in the Philippines will go through the roof. If we are taking big swings looking for All-stars at 14, I think he's got the highest upside. HIs defense on the pick and roll will suck, but if we figured out a way to hide IT, then I have faith that Brad can hide Bol Bol.
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Post#1619 » by Curmudgeon » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:09 pm

Smog wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:
If Danny draft Lecque in the 1st, I might lose it a bit. I'd take Thybulle over Lecque, easy. To me Thybulle can also fit our bench in a great way. ;) 7'1 wingspawn, 6'6, strong, he's my pick if he's there at #22(or Claxton)... :D I want a big guy at #14, Sekou is the dream by moving up. If not I'd settle for any combo of Herro plus Clarke or Bitadze/Washington/Clarke.


I never heard of Lecque until 10 minutes ago but watching that effortless 43 inch vertical and realizing he is a 19 yo HS grad.....sign me up. Russell Westbrook lite right there. If you can get talent like that at 51 .... no brainer.


Lecque won’t last to 51 anymore. You might have to take him in the first. People should probably be prepared for that.

Lecque is exactly the sort of player people have knocked Ainge for not taking in the past. He’s a high-upside lottery ticket, not a gritty overachiever whose value is tied up in defensive effort. Like a lot of Ainge projects, however, he’s a draft prospect whose value is being suppressed by poor shooting results, and Ainge has actually done well with a lot of those picks, even the ones who never learned to shoot - think Rondo, but also Avery Bradley or Tony Allen or even Jaylen Brown.

If people are going to hammer Ainge for not taking someone like Giannis, they shouldn’t complain about Lecque if he’s the pick. This is another kid who’s far away but has unique physical gifts.


Well, the problem is he's 6-2, not 6-6 or 6-7.
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Post#1620 » by SmartWentCrazy » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:22 pm

bucknersrevenge wrote:
Wes-J wrote:Really surprised Ainge did not go Siakam in the draft. Didn't see him in college but I recall being very impressed with him at the NBA combine showing himself quite well against prospects supposedly rated higher than him at the time. Nobody will ever forget Giannis but come on he was very tough to gauge, Milwaukee just got really lucky. I was far more annoyed with passing on Gobert whom I wanted badly.

I'm hoping we get 2 or 3 from this pool of players:

Bol Bol
Clarke
Cam J
Hachimura
Windler
Edwards

Love LeQue in the 2nd

Maybe Dombouya is the one worth trading up for. For me he's the most intriguing prospect on the top 10 bubble.


I do whatever is necessary to secure Brandon Clarke if I'm Danny. If it means using a later pick to trade up so be it. I look at Clarke and defensively, I see the next Draymond. I think his impact could be that significant on the defensive end for this team. A core of Smart, Brown, Tatum, and Clarke is a foundation worth trying to build on. 2 scorers and 2 excellent dirty work complementary players.

Edwards would be perfect as a microwave scorer and ballhandler off the bench. Obviously has a lot to learn about running a team but guys with his skillset always seem to do well here. Plus he would never be asked to facilitate the offense by himself out there. Maybe you play a kid like him with Hayward and/or Al (assuming he comes back).

I don't know if Lecque makes it to 51 anymore. Danny might have to draft him in the first round and send him to the G-League for the year if he wants him that badly.

If you can't get Clarke, hopefully Nic Claxton is still there.


Im 100% with you on Clarke. His wingspan is unimpressive and I wish he was bigger, but people are completely underselling how good an athlete he is— he’ll be one of the 5/10 most athletic forwards in the league from day 1. I also feel like he has sneaky upside too— he completely overhauled his shot and it improved incredibly from his time at SJSU. He was money on 2pt jumpers and I’m optimistic he can stretch it out.

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