2019 free agency and trade ideas: part 2 Downloading

Crives · Post #861 » by **Crives** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:05 pm

darmani wrote:You can stop wasting your time. Conley to Utah is basically a done deal.

Looks like it

?s

Takes jazz out of DLo race as well

LukasBMW · Post #862 » by **LukasBMW** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:11 pm

Qwigglez wrote:
matt131 wrote:
Wilber85 wrote:
I believe his max is $27.5M for the upcoming year. If we keep our draft pick, stretch Tyler Johnson, trade Josh Jackson for just cap space, renounce everyone but Kelly Oubre we should have around $29M. If we trade our 2nd round pick or get an overseas player that stays overseas, we might not have to renounce Holmes, and can just go over the cap to sign him too.

This is the perfect plan.

Dlo
Book
Oubre/Bridges
TJ
Ayton/Holmes

Now just add a vet backup 1 and a vet 4.

Draft BPA.

BobbieL · Post #863 » by **BobbieL** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:13 pm

Wilber85 wrote:I hope we don't get Conley

How about Aaron Gordon/16 for TJ, Josh and the 6 - maybe the Suns SRP or flip them?

Isaac can move to the 4

BobbieL · Post #864 » by **BobbieL** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:14 pm

Crives wrote:
darmani wrote:You can stop wasting your time. Conley to Utah is basically a done deal.

Looks like it

Read on Twitter
?s

Takes jazz out of DLo race as well

Nevel is wrong. I guess the Jazz do have some purple and when they where those rainbow uni;s they got orange

Conley to the Jazz makes 100% sense to me

DRK · Post #865 » by **DRK** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:16 pm

Would love to see a Russell, Booker backcourt

49erhokie827 · Post #866 » by **49erhokie827** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:20 pm

49erhokie827 wrote:
BobbieL wrote:Take Ross (@legionofhoops) FWIW - but Suns might be making moves:

Read on Twitter

Dinwiddie for 6 and Jackson seems pretty step to me.

Conley - the 6 would be steep and I believe Tyler would need to opt in

Interesting to see the deal - if it does happen.

How reliable is this guy?

did this tweet get deleted for some of you?

Blonde · Post #867 » by **Blonde** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:21 pm

DRK wrote:Would love to see a Russell, Booker backcourt

At this point almost anything else would be a disappointment for me. It’s all lining up.

BobbieL · Post #868 » by **BobbieL** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:24 pm

49erhokie827 wrote:
49erhokie827 wrote:
BobbieL wrote:Take Ross (@legionofhoops) FWIW - but Suns might be making moves:

Read on Twitter

Dinwiddie for 6 and Jackson seems pretty step to me.

Conley - the 6 would be steep and I believe Tyler would need to opt in

Interesting to see the deal - if it does happen.

How reliable is this guy?

did this tweet get deleted for some of you?

He had the Carmelo trade if I recall

He said mid week last week Anthony Davis was going to get traded to the Lakers within "24 hours" - it actually took 3-4 days

So hit and miss

Not Woj or Shams level.

Post #869 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:24 pm

49erhokie827 wrote:
49erhokie827 wrote:
BobbieL wrote:Take Ross (@legionofhoops) FWIW - but Suns might be making moves:

Read on Twitter

Dinwiddie for 6 and Jackson seems pretty step to me.

Conley - the 6 would be steep and I believe Tyler would need to opt in

Interesting to see the deal - if it does happen.

How reliable is this guy?

did this tweet get deleted for some of you?

That's weird....people were asking him for more info...I responded saying he doesn't have any because his source is Shams.

Post #870 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:24 pm

Uh oh...Kerrsed...what are you going to do?

Read on Twitter

bwoolf2 · Post #871 » by **bwoolf2** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:32 pm

LukasBMW wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:
matt131 wrote:

This is the perfect plan.

Dlo
Book
Oubre/Bridges
TJ
Ayton/Holmes

Now just add a vet backup 1 and a vet 4.

Draft BPA.

I think Kyrie is going to the Lakers now more than likely that AD is a done deal, so Brooklyn is going to be keeping DLo...

matt131 · Post #872 » by **matt131** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:35 pm

bwgood77 wrote:Uh oh...Kerrsed...what are you going to do?

Read on Twitter

Noooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Revived · Post #873 » by **Revived** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:40 pm

It’s probably already been discussed but with New Orleans getting Lonzo, I feel like Griffin has to start considering moving Holliday.

He can potentially control the entire draft if he gets #6 from us and basically anything else excluding Booker/Bridges/Ayton for Holliday.

Phnxsports · Post #874 » by **Phnxsports** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:47 pm

If Kyrie to LA is a real thing and he doesn't go to Nets, then no way they let Russell go right? I think the D Lo talk is waste of time.

oddity · Post #875 » by **oddity** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:02 pm

Qwigglez wrote:I'd look at the Blazers team model and see if we can have a younger (maybe better) version of them with Russell/Booker. Both Lillard/McCollum aren't stout defenders, but they try and put defensive wings to cover their backcourts limitations. Similarly they have a traditional center like the Suns, who is able to post-up, though I'd say Nurkic knows how to pass and has a mean streak in him as well. Where we differentiate ourselves though is having long athletic wings in Bridges/Oubre.

I think my perfect off-season has us drafting Hunter, trading Jackson for pure cap space (maybe get a 2nd round pick, but likely have to give up the Bucks pick), stretching Tyler Johnson, signing DLo, and then signing Kelly Oubre. Trading Jackson for pure cap space is absolutely required if we want to offer Russell a max contract. It's either trading Jackson or Warren to make enough cap space. Ideally, we'd be able to fill out the rest of our roster with perhaps a couple of veterans.

Russell / Booker / Bridges / Oubre / Ayton
Melton / Okobo / Warren / Hunter / 2nd round pick?

I honestly really love the look of that team and would be extremely happy with that outcome.
D'Lo seems like a solid fit next to Booker, especially bc they know eos games so well, but I have slight hesitations about it because they may be a little bit too similar. Both can struggle to get penetration at times and rhat worries me. BUT D'Lo has improved immensely as a passer since coming into the league, and that has me leaning towards trying to sign him.
Our athletic slew of wings is really what seperates our team from others. Keeping Warren and adding Hunter to Oubre and Mikal means we can have guys from the 2 to the 4 that play great defense and shoot 3s. Warren has a great in-between game, Hunter has a nice little post game as well, and Bridges/Oubre are developing into more well-rounded scorers by the day. That group of wings could turn into a really deadly core of our team on both ends of the ball.
This all seems like an ideal environment to raise Ayton in, who may wind up being our best player. I think Hunter makes for an excellent frontcourt partner to Ayton. Our wings will help shore up weaknesses defensively. D'Lo and Book are probably 2 of the best players in the league to throw an outlet pass to.
On top of everything, we can still keep one or both of Melton/Okobo, and they have so much time to develop into really good players.
Then we'll have TJo's expiring and another pick to look forward to using next year to further improve on what looks like a solid foundation.
Um unsure abt how exactly this works with our cap space, but hope is good at least, right?

Phnxsports · Post #876 » by **Phnxsports** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:03 pm

And PS Please god no Conley. Gross!

TeamTragic · Post #877 » by **TeamTragic** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:07 pm

matt131 wrote:

Read on Twitter

man if they think 4 is worth Beal, why not JJ/6/TJ?

Also if all it takes is freaking the 4th pick to land BEAL, the NBA gods really screwed us in the lottery

#4 for Beal? That isn't happening.

BobbieL wrote:Oh boy - AShley Nevel thinks the Suns are getting COnley:

Read on Twitter

Doesn't Tyler Johnson have to opt-in though.

Warren, Jackson and the 6 for Conley seems like a helluva lot to me

Ashley doesn't know anything. Not happening.

Wilber85 · Post #878 » by **Wilber85** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:10 pm

GoranTragic wrote:
matt131 wrote:

Read on Twitter

man if they think 4 is worth Beal, why not JJ/6/TJ?

Also if all it takes is freaking the 4th pick to land BEAL, the NBA gods really screwed us in the lottery

#4 for Beal? That isn't happening.

BobbieL wrote:Oh boy - AShley Nevel thinks the Suns are getting COnley:

Read on Twitter

Doesn't Tyler Johnson have to opt-in though.

Warren, Jackson and the 6 for Conley seems like a helluva lot to me

Ashley doesn't know anything. Not happening.

Solomon Hill, #4, and 1 future Lakers pick for Beal

matt131 · Post #879 » by **matt131** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:12 pm

Wilber85 wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
matt131 wrote:

Read on Twitter

man if they think 4 is worth Beal, why not JJ/6/TJ?

Also if all it takes is freaking the 4th pick to land BEAL, the NBA gods really screwed us in the lottery

#4 for Beal? That isn't happening.

BobbieL wrote:Oh boy - AShley Nevel thinks the Suns are getting COnley:

Read on Twitter

Doesn't Tyler Johnson have to opt-in though.

Warren, Jackson and the 6 for Conley seems like a helluva lot to me

Ashley doesn't know anything. Not happening.

Solomon Hill, #4, and 1 future Lakers pick for Beal

Ehh..I never trust Bill Simmons' trade proposals.

RaisingArizona · Post #880 » by **RaisingArizona** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:15 pm

What's with all the Holmes love? Is he the 2019 version of Lou? He is not very good. Suns should be looking to upgrade everywhere.

Who would you rather add to our backcourt this summer?