2019 Draft Discussion

[TheKingofSting]

Round 1 - Pick 12
Kevin Porter Jr. SG
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA • FR • 6'6" / 216 LBS
PROJECTED TEAM
Charlotte
PROSPECT RNK
15th
POSITION RNK
2nd
PPG
9.5
RPG
4.0
APG
1.4
3P%
41.2%
There's some uncertainty at shooting guard for the Hornets not only in who will start next season, but also in who they intend to build with. Porter Jr. can help the team reset with Jeremy Lamb entering free agency and Malik Monk still struggling to perform up to his draft level. He's a top 5 talent worth heavily investing in.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2019-nba-mock-draft-anthony-davis-trade-gives-pelicans-options-after-they-take-zion-williamson-with-no-1-pick/

[KingCat]

I would be fine with the Porter pick. Since Lamb is likely gone and Tony retired, I think our main priority should be picking up a guy that can handle the ball and thus take atleast some pressure off Kemba, all this barring Kemba stays of course. I think Jarrett Culver fills our need the best but it doesn’t look like Mitch will be able to get a trade up deal done.

We should probably come out of this draft with a NAW, Langford, or Porter. NAW is my pick I guess, he may be the least sexy pick of the bunch I really think he could help now, and has the least bust potential, though my heart really likes Langford. Knowning the Hornets draft history though, we are gonna pick Washington and he is gonna look exactly like Miles did last year while playing the same exact role

[Diop]

tempted to get Clarke just so he can show MKG how to rebuild a jumpshot properly!

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that stepian writeup did intrigue me, but I get sucked in to a lot of writeups every year. I will be curious to see what he can do in the NBA. His offence reminded me of a skinner, shorter (no where near as long) Siakam

[Bassman]

I would be fine with the Porter pick. Since Lamb is likely gone and Tony retired, I think our main priority should be picking up a guy that can handle the ball and thus take atleast some pressure off Kemba, all this barring Kemba stays of course. I think Jarrett Culver fills our need the best but it doesn’t look like Mitch will be able to get a trade up deal done.

We should probably come out of this draft with a NAW, Langford, or Porter. NAW is my pick I guess, he may be the least sexy pick of the bunch I really think he could help now, and has the least bust potential, though my heart really likes Langford. Knowning the Hornets draft history though, we are gonna pick Washington and he is gonna look exactly like Miles did last year while playing the same exact role

If our objective is a shooting guard: Langford has a very low 3 point % at the college level, so I’m not wanting him. Porter has a funky shooting stroke (kids push shot from the chest) that will hurt him in the NBA. Hopefully Little falls to us at 12 if we want a shooter (and we do need a shooter).

[UNCNYC]

Justin James is someone who intrigues me @ #51. He is 6'7" and can play PG, SG and SF. My only problem with him is he is 22 so I dunno if he has much development left. But he has some talent.

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[Benjamin Linus]

Kevin Porter’s my dude. I think I’m the only person on this board that’s chillin on Porter Island. IMO he’s one of the highest upside plays at 12. I don’t think we’ll draft him though... I mean I don’t know Kupchak’s risk tolerance but my gut tells me there’s too many decent role players in our range for him to swing on Porter

[LofJ]

The frustrating thing about this draft is that the team needs a big to develop, but unless Hayes is there at 12 it would be poor value to draft one at that spot. But if the team waits to pick 36 to draft one most of the better options like Goga, Claxton, Fernando, Bol, and Kabengele will likely be off the board.

If Mitch can't trade back into the late 1st (which would be difficult without attaching future draft assets), he may come to the conclusion that it's best to just take the big he likes the most at 12.

[gundysmullet]

What are you trying to get at other than trying to use a logical fallacy argument that doesn't apply here.

Im not interpreting, twisting, or misrepresenting anything here.

It seems pretty obvious that if he was a capable outside shooter, then he'd... I dunno... Shoot from outside more often. Unless you're trying to say he purposely decided to never showcase his ability to do so, in which case it seems to portend a serious lack of BBIQ.

I mean ****, let's add another question since you ignored my last one (I'll restate that one for posterity since I'm still looking for an answer).

1. Can you point to me a guy who has the same (or close) physical measurements and has been successful in the past 5-10 years?

Can you point me to a guy who averaged two TOTAL (or close) made threes in a multi year college career who became a respectable outside threat?


You can be as indignant as you want, but these are serious ass issues for Clarke. The same questions every GM around the league is having. You flat out cannot ignore the fact that he's a guy with serious, obvious, and glaring holes in both his physical makeup and his offensive game.

No, that is not “obvious” because the zags did not need him to shoot threes. They had Norvell, Perkins and Kispert to do that. They needed him to rebound, block shots and score underneath, which he did with insane efficiency, so much so that he actually set some records.

[TheKingofSting]

The Hornets better not continue their unc circle jerk with taking Little (who is not good at basketball) if they want to increase the chances of retaining Kemba's services.

If we stay at pick 12 we should take (in no order):

1. Brandon Clarke
2. Bol Bol
3. Jaxson Hayes
4. P. J. Washington
5. Kevin Porter Jr.

If Mitch Kupchak somehow pulls off a miracle and gets the #4 pick then it has to either be Darius Garland (I've seen parts of his game compared to C.J. McCollum) or Coby White (not a unc circle jerk move) because either would vastly improve the team to the point where if Kemba stays it could be a magical backcourt pairing like him and Jeremy Lin a few seasons ago.

[LofJ]

I think most of the fanbase would be disappointed if Mitch drafts a big at 12 because it's not exciting. I guess Bol Bol would excite some, but even then he's a bust just waiting for the tag on this team. A smart organization would red shirt him for two years, but this team wouldn't be willing to do that.

[JMAC3]

Brandon Clarke doesn’t shoot jumpers... ever in games. Are we saying because he can shoot just okay in an open gym then he can shoot? Have we learned nothing from Cody....


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[gundysmullet]

Brandon Clarke doesn’t shoot jumpers... ever in games. Are we saying because he can shoot just okay in an open gym then he can shoot? Have we learned nothing from Cody....


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Well, we know for a fact that your claim is not only hyperbolic but untrue because several posts up is actual in game evidence of him hitting a three. But we also know, as I explained earlier, he was not required to shoot jumpers because they had Perkins, Norvell, Kispert, Rui and Tillie to do that. Brandons responsibility was to rebound, block shots, defend and score in the low post. He excelled at every one of those responsibilities.

[JMAC3]

Brandon Clarke doesn’t shoot jumpers... ever in games. Are we saying because he can shoot just okay in an open gym then he can shoot? Have we learned nothing from Cody....


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Well, we know for a fact that your claim is not only hyperbolic but untrue because several posts up is actual in game evidence of him hitting a three. But we also know, as I explained earlier, he was not required to shoot jumpers because they had Perkins, Norvell, Kispert, Rui and Tillie to do that. Brandons responsibility was to rebound, block shots, defend and score in the low post. He excelled at every one of those responsibilities.

He made 4 threes in 37 games... at 26.7 percent. I can shoot better than that.

I’m not arguing whether he is a good college player, it’s about what he can do moving forward and he is going to be smaller than everyone guarding him... that’s a bad start. Add in he has no jump shot. Is he just going to dunk on everyone lol?


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[LofJ]

I'm coming around to Fernando. He isn't all that mobile, but he can block shots, rebound, pass, and shoot. I'd rather have Claxton, but Fernando wouldn't be a bad player to have on the team (just not at 12).

[Rich4114]

I'm still fully expecting to end up with Cam Reddish, and I'm truly worried about it. I keep thinking Monk/Vonleh. I remember seeing those guys mocked at #4, 5, 6 and we end up with them at our typical 10-12 spot.

[Robot Rock]

I'm still fully expecting to end up with Cam Reddish, and I'm truly worried about it. I keep thinking Monk/Vonleh. I remember seeing those guys mocked at #4, 5, 6 and we end up with them at our typical 10-12 spot.

Buddy, Cam Reddish went to Duke. You have nothing to worry about. If we won the lottery I’d fully expect Coby White to be the pick.

[Robot Rock]

If we trade up it’ll be White and if not it’ll be Little.

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[driveandkick]

I'm still fully expecting to end up with Cam Reddish, and I'm truly worried about it. I keep thinking Monk/Vonleh. I remember seeing those guys mocked at #4, 5, 6 and we end up with them at our typical 10-12 spot.

Buddy, Cam Reddish went to Duke. You have nothing to worry about. If we won the lottery I’d fully expect Coby White to be the pick.

This is such a lazy narrative that Jordan always finds ways to draft UNC players. Sure we took May and Felton in 05 and Jordan had nothing to do with that. Since then what UNC players have we drafted? Brandon Wright (who was instantly traded)? PJ Hairston (who was considered a great value pick where we got him)? That's all I can think of.

[BeesWax]

I'm still fully expecting to end up with Cam Reddish, and I'm truly worried about it. I keep thinking Monk/Vonleh. I remember seeing those guys mocked at #4, 5, 6 and we end up with them at our typical 10-12 spot.

Buddy, Cam Reddish went to Duke. You have nothing to worry about. If we won the lottery I’d fully expect Coby White to be the pick.

This is such a lazy narrative that Jordan always finds ways to draft UNC players. Sure we took May and Felton in 05 and Jordan had nothing to do with that. Since then what UNC players have we drafted? Brandon Wright (who was instantly traded)? PJ Hairston (who was considered a great value pick where we got him)? That's all I can think of.

To be honest if we took Little at our pick it wouldn’t be a reach. I mean was his year any worse than Reddish really? The way we showed some promise developing Bridges and Bacon I would be kind of excited to get a player with that kind of talent and hope we can help him reach his potential.

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