Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXVII

[Illuminaire]

Quick, flip Beal for Chris Paul and the Wiz can go 3 for 3!

[TGW]

I’ll trade mahinimi and howard for Wiggins...

That's an awful idea. It would be franchise suicide to commit to having both Wall's and Wiggins' contracts on the books for the next 4 years.

Make the wolves Add a future far out pick...
rebuild will be done in 4 years

You've been playing too much 2K...

[Ruzious]

Quick, flip Beal for Chris Paul and the Wiz can go 3 for 3!

What date is the over/under for someone suggesting a Paul for Wall trade? It'll happen by sometime next offseason.

[JWizmentality]

That's an awful idea. It would be franchise suicide to commit to having both Wall's and Wiggins' contracts on the books for the next 4 years.

Make the wolves Add a future far out pick...
rebuild will be done in 4 years

Words can't describe how bad this idea is.

wait...he wasn't joking?

[deneem4]

Make the wolves Add a future far out pick...
rebuild will be done in 4 years

Words can't describe how bad this idea is.

wait...he wasn't joking?

Nah I’m not...
We won’t keep Wiggins the whole 4 years...he ah do good n we will trade him away for Austin rivers or some other expiring vet
Then watch as he become an allstar

[nate33]

Words can't describe how bad this idea is.

wait...he wasn't joking?

Nah I’m not...
We won’t keep Wiggins the whole 4 years...he ah do good n we will trade him away for Austin rivers or some other expiring vet
Then watch as he become an allstar

If Wiggins could be traded away for an expiring vet, Minnesota would have already done so.

Besides, if the goal is to trade Wiggins for an expiring vet, why did you trade and expiring vet (Mahinmi) for him in the first place?

[deneem4]

wait...he wasn't joking?

Nah I’m not...
We won’t keep Wiggins the whole 4 years...he ah do good n we will trade him away for Austin rivers or some other expiring vet
Then watch as he become an allstar

If Wiggins could be traded away for an expiring vet, Minnesota would have already done so.

Besides, if the goal is to trade Wiggins for an expiring vet, why did you trade and expiring vet (Mahinmi) for him in the first place?

Same reason we traded Otto for expirings
Same reason we traded up for oubre then traded him for an expiring vet...
It’s the wizards way

[NatP4]

remember when we traded for Chris Mccullough? holy **** that guy was horrible lol

[deneem4]

Only Beal trade up do

New orleans get Beal
Chicago gets zo, Moore
Wizards get Ingram, Hart, lavine,Hutchinson, 7th pick, 4th pick



Sato(wall)/lavine
Lavine/Hart
Ingram/brown
Parker/ariza/green
Bryant/Howard/Mahinmi/

Try to bring back portis and green and ariza...
Draft a guard... wing and 4/5...

[SUPERBALLMAN]

So this possibility of trading Beal to the Pelicans...

Al Gauldi on 980 was talking about this... Beal for the #4 and future 1st. Then he suggested the Wizards going nuclear and saying well trade you Beal IF you also take Wall.... So Beal and Wall for the #4.

If we want to just blow it up and allow a new GM to start from scratch, this could be the opportunity to do that.

We make this trade, then move the 4 to Atlanta for the 8 & 10. Now we got 8, 9, 10.

We come out with something like.... Hunter, Doumbouya/Clarke, Herro/K.Johnson.

Add these high 3 picks to a group we can now re-sign of Bryant, Portis, Dekker, Brown jr., Satoransky.


For example, a top 5 of Bryant, Doumouya, Hunter, Keldon Johnson, Satoransky.

Bench of Portis, Dekker, Brown...

Plus we'd now have A LOT of cap flexibility... Just gotta get rid of Howard and Mahinmi.

[The Consiglieri]

I have a hard time believing anyone would trade with us and eat Wall's contract as a part of the deal w/o us having to give up a lot of stuff we don't want to (future 1sts) and/or get literally nothing back for eating the contract.

[nuposse04]

is wall for wiggins an equivalent value proposition? Both guys kinda mid key suck now and severely overpaid. Wall on one leg was still better then wiggins last years but he might be worse post Achilles rupture. fml

[nate33]

So this possibility of trading Beal to the Pelicans...

Al Gauldi on 980 was talking about this... Beal for the #4 and future 1st. Then he suggested the Wizards going nuclear and saying well trade you Beal IF you also take Wall.... So Beal and Wall for the #4.

If we want to just blow it up and allow a new GM to start from scratch, this could be the opportunity to do that.

We make this trade, then move the 4 to Atlanta for the 8 & 10. Now we got 8, 9, 10.

We come out with something like.... Hunter, Doumbouya/Clarke, Herro/K.Johnson.

Add these high 3 picks to a group we can now re-sign of Bryant, Portis, Dekker, Brown jr., Satoransky.


For example, a top 5 of Bryant, Doumouya, Hunter, Keldon Johnson, Satoransky.

Bench of Portis, Dekker, Brown...

Plus we'd now have A LOT of cap flexibility... Just gotta get rid of Howard and Mahinmi.

Beal + Wall for the #4 is something I could see management really going for. They would save a ton of money getting off those contracts.

But if the goal was to actually build a good team going forward, I would not do this. I don't think generating massive cap space is very useful because no elite free agent would want to come here anyhow. That's the only real opportunity cost of Wall's contract: we miss out on the chance to overpay for second-rate free agents.

I'd rather do the trade with just Beal and get back a lot more picks and prospects. If we are rebuilding, we won't be in position to be shopping for a big name free agent in the next 4 years anyhow.

[popper]

So this possibility of trading Beal to the Pelicans...

Al Gauldi on 980 was talking about this... Beal for the #4 and future 1st. Then he suggested the Wizards going nuclear and saying well trade you Beal IF you also take Wall.... So Beal and Wall for the #4.

If we want to just blow it up and allow a new GM to start from scratch, this could be the opportunity to do that.

We make this trade, then move the 4 to Atlanta for the 8 & 10. Now we got 8, 9, 10.

We come out with something like.... Hunter, Doumbouya/Clarke, Herro/K.Johnson.

Add these high 3 picks to a group we can now re-sign of Bryant, Portis, Dekker, Brown jr., Satoransky.


For example, a top 5 of Bryant, Doumouya, Hunter, Keldon Johnson, Satoransky.

Bench of Portis, Dekker, Brown...

Plus we'd now have A LOT of cap flexibility... Just gotta get rid of Howard and Mahinmi.

Please let it happen.

[gambitx777]

Some kind of wall for cp3 trade he's got one year less than wall but one year more than beal. So its not ideal but maybe that would be better just for a change of pace for every one involved. Maybe a three team shuffling the deck chairs type deal with the heat and Houston .
Wiz get: Anderson and waiters
Houston get wall
Heat get Cp3

That heat team.is cap strapped anyway and they might be open to getting a high price guard and the word on the street was that they wanted wall before he went down and taking walls contract might be the only way they get out of that cp3 deal and wall is a good bit younger and still has promise of being good again. Anderson is on a one year deal and actually fits a need if he can get his **** together. He really hasn't been the same since that girlfriend situation happened to him. And waiters while a little over paid could be good off the bench behind Beal.

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[popper]

Or, Wall for Paul.

[nate33]

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[nate33]

Some kind of wall for cp3 trade he's got one year less than wall but one year more than beal. So its not ideal but maybe that would be better just for a change of pace for every one involved. Maybe a three team shuffling the deck chairs type deal with the heat and Houston .
Wiz get: Anderson and waiters
Houston get wall
Heat get Cp3

That heat team.is cap strapped anyway and they might be open to getting a high price guard and the word on the street was that they wanted wall before he went down and taking walls contract might be the only way they get out of that cp3 deal and wall is a good bit younger and still has promise of being good again. Anderson is on a one year deal and actually fits a need if he can get his **** together. He really hasn't been the same since that girlfriend situation happened to him. And waiters while a little over paid could be good off the bench behind Beal.

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I think Houston would cut us out of the deal and just trade Paul for the Miami players.

[deneem4]

Beal and wall for Barrett?
We shed salary but we haven’t been a free agency destination
We get mid picks but this ain the 2011 draft
If u feel like wall is completely finish and Beal isn’t going to get better...
Trade em both...
Hope the draft in favor

[nate33]

Beal and wall for Barrett?
We shed salary but we haven’t been a free agency destination
We get mid picks but this ain the 2011 draft
If u feel like wall is completely finish and Beal isn’t going to get better...
Trade em both...
Hope the draft in favor

Stop. Please stop.

We are not going to trade Beal as a means of dumping Wall. Those are two conflicting strategies.

If we want to rebuild for 3-4 years down the road, then keep Wall. No sense sacrificing the assets gained in a Beal trade by using them to dump Wall's contract. If the goal is to immediately get back into playoff contention, then we keep Beal and only trade Wall if someone wants to take his contract without incentive.

Under no scenario does it make sense to sacrifice major assets to dump Wall.