Ghost of Kleine wrote:grumpysaddle wrote:Ghost of Kleine wrote:
The deals are littered about amongst varying teams, But are not blatantly obvious or listed as straight cap space moves outright. Making it difficult to properly categorize them accordingly.
Most trades were/ are in the context of sending out players and taking back expiring contracts, cash considerations, players for unguaranteed 2nd round picks, team options, players with contracts that have buyouts or can be waived. Trading for these players that can be waived or are expiring, obviously helped capped out teams sign impact players never the less. A few more obvious examples would be................
Back in 2016 I think, Golden state traded Boguts' 7 million contract to Dallas for ZaZa Pachulias' contract at 2 million. Helping them clear space for Durant to sign. ( They traded Bogut to create cap space to be able to sign Durant).
In 2017, The lakers traded Russell and Mozgov to the Nets to clear cap space for Lebron and George. They did sign lebron however.
Also, Most recently Dallas traded 2 first round picks and Courtney Lee, Wesley Mathews, DeAndre Jordan, and Dennis Smith Jr.( expiring contracts and buyout contracts were inclusive) to New York , and got back Porzingis. And cap space to not only resign Porzingis, But to be able to add another max contract for free agency.
( point being Dallas traded two firsts for the cap space they received).
Brooklyn just recently traded Allen Crabbes' contract to Atlanta. Atlanta received a slew of draft picks, that they can now use to move up into the top part of the lottery. And Brooklyn got back Prince and more importantly cap space with now has them in prime position to sign Irving.
( In trading Crabbes' contract, They can now sign Irving in free agency).
Last season, The Clippers traded Harris to Philly for picks and players on much smaller contracts, creating cap space to be able to sign a marquee player such as Kwahi, Durant, etc.
The point is that you can't offer cap space, If you don't have any to offer. In free agency your trying to outbid a bunch of other teams for your targets. The teams that aren't big markets, prime free agent destinations, or have a desirable reputation need to have that available cap space in order to be able to outbid the competing franchises for the targeted player.
With respect to trading quality players, What other assets do we have that possess enough value to actually bring back a quality return? Much less a top tier free agent?
Also, when talking of taking gambles that could break your team, You do realize that we're currently only a 19 win team right? So what exactly are we risking honestly by acquiring additional assets and cap space that would allow us much better free agent options than what we can bid for with only 10 million in cap space.
Yes, Warren is a quality player for us. But our current roster has only afforded us 19 wins and the 2nd worst record in the entire league. People desperately want us to get better and be able to compete. But if we can't trade for better players or additional assets to use in trades, because we're unwilling to trade any players with value. Then how do we improve our roster???
Do we assume that other teams will just take pity on us and gift us nice players and assets for nothing of value. Also, you say that taking risks are the reason McD lost his Job. I disagree. McD did a poor job scouting prospects, leading to poor outcomes in our past drafts.
Also, his inability to secure a point guard for our core. Now how much of this can be truly attributed to his own mistakes or Sarvers' control issues will never be truly known. But we can choose to just sit by and be too timid to take any risks and keep hovering around 20 wins for a few more years.
Or we can nut up as a franchise and aggressively pursue higher caliber options with cap space in hand to sign our target outright, instead of asking them to wait for us to catch up with everybody else in free agency.
Show me on the doll where TJ Warren hurt you.
Lol....I'm fine man. I'm not the one getting so easily triggered as some on here by the very real possability that he could be traded. Also, try as I might, I just find myself unable to be able to overvalue a player that has been unable or unwilling to play defense, has issues with tunnel vision, is often injured and has very little value around the league. But whatever helps everyone deal honestly.
I honestly do understand. So many have latched on to players showing any semblance of production, and thusly labeled them untouchable. I guess we'll be lucky that when Booker leaves in another few years, at least we'll be lucky enough to have Warren carry the team for around 30-40 games. Fingers crossed....lol..
It's moreso about tj being traded away for nothing of value. He does have value. If you're trading him away it better be for a huge upgrade, otherwise it is taking a step back. We've done that enough.
) - but they traded expirings and picks for Iguodala.
