2019 NBA draft

[Zeroforwinger]

Jaylen/Smart for Lonzo/4?

Ummmmmmm why?

We lower our salary commitments by 5 million, defer handing out a pay raise, Garland has star talent, and Lonzo becomes our pre-2018 Smart - great defender, with more length and height, better passing, can’t shoot for sh*t.

I’d make Garland/Lonzo (and Lonzo/Garland) the backcourt.. maybe bring back Rozier on a fat 1 or 2 year deal as a third guard and trade chip..

You seem to be overthinking this. Smart and Jaylen are much better than Lonzo and Garland. This trade makes us worse, with a slight chance of Garland’s lottery ticket surpassing the value of what Brown already brings.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Celtics trying to trade up to go after Garland possibly? I’d love this.

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Going to throw a dart here and guess what we might be offering for #4 (if Garland is available there):

I heard on good authority that Jaylen was a major pain in the ass behind the scenes. Even with Kyrie gone I could see a scenario where the Celtics want to purge the negativity and bad blood from the locker room and move him for #4. The question is what else would the package involve? Here's one guess...

Boston trades Jaylen, Yabusele, #14, #20, #22
Boston gets #4, Teague

Minnesota trades #11, Teague
Minnesota gets Hill, #14, #22

New Orleans trades #4, Solomon Hill
New Orleans gets Jaylen Brown, Yabusele, #20

I think the draft pick salaries might need to be used to make the money work or there might need to be some other throw-ins but that's one idea. Of course #4 straight up for Jaylen is another... or #4 and #39 for Jaylen and #51 if it needed to be sweetened a little more.

Who gets 11?

[Andrew McCeltic]

I’d do Jaylen/14/22 for Lonzo/4, I’ve suggested it.. Jrue/Jaylen/Ingram/Zion/Bitadze?

I think you’re underrating Ball and probably Garland - I’m guessing his workouts confirm his run at Vanderbilt and that he has star lead guard potential..

[greenroom31]

Celtics trying to trade up to go after Garland possibly? I’d love this.

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Going to throw a dart here and guess what we might be offering for #4 (if Garland is available there):

I heard on good authority that Jaylen was a major pain in the ass behind the scenes. Even with Kyrie gone I could see a scenario where the Celtics want to purge the negativity and bad blood from the locker room and move him for #4. The question is what else would the package involve? Here's one guess...

Boston trades Jaylen, Yabusele, #20, #22
Boston gets #4, Teague

Minnesota trades Teague
Minnesota gets Hill, #22

New Orleans trades #4, Solomon Hill
New Orleans gets Jaylen Brown, Yabusele, #20

I think the draft pick salaries might need to be used to make the money work or there might need to be some other throw-ins but that's one idea. Of course #4 straight up for Jaylen is another... or #4 and #39 for Jaylen and #51 if it needed to be sweetened a little more.

Who gets 11?

Hahaha oops . Maybe #11 isn't needed and the Celtics just keep #14. I edited it above to reflect that change.

[Andrew McCeltic]

You’d have to send Minnesota the 14 to incentivize them.. and they have no use for Solomon Hill.. we’d have to include more outgoing salary, too

[djFan71]

I’d do Jaylen/14/22 for Lonzo/4, I’ve suggested it.. Jrue/Jaylen/Ingram/Zion/Bitadze?

I think you’re underrating Ball and probably Garland - I’m guessing his workouts confirm his run at Vanderbilt and that he has star lead guard potential..

Are are we getting 4 to take Garland? And end up with Ball, Smart and Garland?

[SmartWentCrazy]

I’d do Jaylen/14/22 for Lonzo/4, I’ve suggested it.. Jrue/Jaylen/Ingram/Zion/Bitadze?

I think you’re underrating Ball and probably Garland - I’m guessing his workouts confirm his run at Vanderbilt and that he has star lead guard potential..

Theyre not trading Lonzo

[Andrew McCeltic]

Or

BOS out: Smart, Jaylen, 20/22
BOS in: Teague, 4, 11

MIN out: Teague, 11
MIN in: Smart, Hill, 20/22

NOP out: Hill, 4
NOP in: Brown, Yabusele

[Andrew McCeltic]

I’d do Jaylen/14/22 for Lonzo/4, I’ve suggested it.. Jrue/Jaylen/Ingram/Zion/Bitadze?

I think you’re underrating Ball and probably Garland - I’m guessing his workouts confirm his run at Vanderbilt and that he has star lead guard potential..

Theyre not trading Lonzo

They’ve had him for a day and a half, he was constantly linked to other teams in three-way trade scenarios..

[Andrew McCeltic]

I’d do Jaylen/14/22 for Lonzo/4, I’ve suggested it.. Jrue/Jaylen/Ingram/Zion/Bitadze?

I think you’re underrating Ball and probably Garland - I’m guessing his workouts confirm his run at Vanderbilt and that he has star lead guard potential..

Are are we getting 4 to take Garland? And end up with Ball, Smart and Garland?

Garland or Barrett..

[soxfan2003]

Garland seems like a bad fit for what the Celtics need at PG in the age of Giannis so I hope Boston isn't desperate to draft a PG like Philly was with Fultz. Desperation creates terrible decision making.

With this current roster, Celtics need a PG more like a young Conley or young George Hill or Lowry. Someone who can play some physical defense and isn't afraid of stepping in front of an incoming freight train known as Giannis. But a player on offense that needs to be guarded.

I am not saying Garland won't be very good but he just doesn't appear to fit this team over the next 2-3+ years.

If Ainge wants to re-sign Horford and keep Tatum/Hayward, he needs more defense at the PG position and an upgrade to Morris at PF.

If Stevens has real input into the decision, I don't expect the Celtics to end up with Garland.

With Garland, what would the plan be to defend Giannis? Toronto showed that your guards have to help defend Giannis and you can't just leave it to one player.

[greenroom31]

Garland seems like a bad fit for what the Celtics need at PG in the age of Giannis so I hope Boston isn't desperate to draft a PG like Philly was with Fultz. Desperation creates terrible decision making.

With this current roster, Celtics need a PG more like a young Conley or young George Hill or Lowry. Someone who can play some physical defense and isn't afraid of stepping in front of an incoming freight train known as Giannis. But a player on offense that needs to be guarded.

I am not saying Garland won't be very good but he just doesn't appear to fit this team over the next 2-3+ years.

Why are you expecting the PG to be taking charges from Giannis? If we need a physical guard to get run over, Marcus Smart says hi. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you but I don't understand why Garland is a bad fit. He is definitely a super fast and agile shot creator which we need...

[Disinformation]

14+MEM.

I've been wrong before, but if we give up the grizz pick with other assets to draft Darius Garland, I will puke in my lap on draft night.

I wouldnt do it, but thats what the cost would be

David Griffin can go **** himself if he thinks we'd give that up.

[soxfan2003]

I’d do Jaylen/14/22 for Lonzo/4, I’ve suggested it.. Jrue/Jaylen/Ingram/Zion/Bitadze?

I think you’re underrating Ball and probably Garland - I’m guessing his workouts confirm his run at Vanderbilt and that he has star lead guard potential..

Theyre not trading Lonzo

IMO They could but just not for that package.

I do think they would do Ball/4 for Tatum but Ainge wouldn't do that right now. I don't think Pelicans would do Ball for Brown straight up if they think Ball will be healthy this upcoming year.

[jmr07019]

Garland seems like a bad fit for what the Celtics need at PG in the age of Giannis so I hope Boston isn't desperate to draft a PG like Philly was with Fultz. Desperation creates terrible decision making.

With this current roster, Celtics need a PG more like a young Conley or young George Hill or Lowry. Someone who can play some physical defense and isn't afraid of stepping in front of an incoming freight train known as Giannis. But a player on offense that needs to be guarded.

I am not saying Garland won't be very good but he just doesn't appear to fit this team over the next 2-3+ years.

If Ainge wants to re-sign Horford and keep Tatum/Hayward, he needs more defense at the PG position and an upgrade to Morris at PF.

If Stevens has real input into the decision, I don't expect the Celtics to end up with Garland.

With Garland, what would the plan be to defend Giannis? Toronto showed that your guards have to help defend Giannis and you can't just leave it to one player.

Isn’t Smart a pretty good fit for what you described at pg? Or do you think he doesn’t draw enough defensive attention? I like the idea of Smart at pg with our lead ball handler being a SG or SF but am a little skeptical that Marcus will match or improve upon his offensive numbers from last year.

[Andrew McCeltic]

I’d do Jaylen/14/22 for Lonzo/4, I’ve suggested it.. Jrue/Jaylen/Ingram/Zion/Bitadze?

I think you’re underrating Ball and probably Garland - I’m guessing his workouts confirm his run at Vanderbilt and that he has star lead guard potential..

Theyre not trading Lonzo

IMO They could but just not for that package.

I do think they would do Ball/4 for Tatum but Ainge wouldn't do that right now. I don't think Pelicans would do Ball for Brown straight up if they think Ball will be healthy this upcoming year.

No one knows yet what Griffin is planning.. maybe he wants to keep Jrue, or thinks Lonzo is a trade chip, or valued Brown more highly but not the Celtics’ overall package..

[soxfan2003]

If I am the Pelicans giving the rest of that roster, I am not prioritizing Jaylen Brown. Simply not a proven enough shooter and 1 year until RFA. They are better off being patient. See what you have at first with Zion and if Zion is a star and Tatum ends up somewhat of failure this upcoming season with his value taking a hit, perhaps trade for Tatum at a discount to be more of a role player next to Zion.

[djFan71]

I’d do Jaylen/14/22 for Lonzo/4, I’ve suggested it.. Jrue/Jaylen/Ingram/Zion/Bitadze?

I think you’re underrating Ball and probably Garland - I’m guessing his workouts confirm his run at Vanderbilt and that he has star lead guard potential..

Are are we getting 4 to take Garland? And end up with Ball, Smart and Garland?

Garland or Barrett..

Value's probably close if you like Ball. I just don't think this team's needs are PG or SF. I'd rather keep Jaylen.

[BleedGreen1989]

I’d love Garland, but I highly doubt you’re getting him without MEM pick or at least Jaylen and I doubt NO has much interest in Jaylen with his impending payday.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Garland is a Rich Paul client. Kyrie and Paul submarined the Celtics championship hopes. Why deal with Paul so soon after he screwed the Cs big time? And if Garland blossoms, would you have any faith that the Celtics could re-sign him with Paul manipulating the situation? I don't even want Morris back because he's represented by Paul. And it will be a heavy cost to acquire Garland. Just go with Rozier for now and rehabilitate his trade value.