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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 

Post#121 » by nitocobola » Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:23 am

PhilasFinest wrote:Very interested in how we view Dairus Bazley and if he's on the board at 24.

After having 2 workouts with us, I have been trying to look into him more and more......and he checks some boxes in terms of an upside swing. Would be a unique addition with the ability to really add to our mismatches on the floor....and certainly could be a lottery pick in this draft if he had played 1 year in the NCAA based on his size/skillset.

he canceled the second workout with us, probably gone before 24.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 

Post#122 » by Negrodamus » Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:25 am

Listening to the Ringer NBA podcast and they're talking about how Cam Johnson has been flagged for health reasons in his hip. Sounds like a Sixers pick.
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Post#123 » by PhilasFinest » Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:27 am

Negrodamus wrote:Listening to the Ringer NBA podcast and they're talking about how Cam Johnson has been flagged for health reasons in his hip. Sounds like a Sixers pick.


****. That gut feeling I've had for 2months just turned real.

Red shirts the 24 year old rookie. FML LOL
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Post#124 » by FlyingArrow » Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:42 am

FlyingArrow wrote:I wanted to combine some mock drafts for a better picture of the landscape. I looked at 5 separate mock drafts (nbadraft.net, tankathon.com, draftsite.com, drafttek.com, cbssports.com).

Top ten is almost unanimous among all 5, but order differs on 4-10
1. Zion
2. Ja
3. RJ
4-10. Darius Garland, Coby White, DeAndre Hunter, Jarrett Culver, Cam Reddish, Jaxson Hayes, Sekou Doumbouya
(One draft has Doumbouya at 11 instead of in the top 10.)

Then things diverge. Below is everyone who made the top 34 in any of the four mock drafts, and their slots in each one.

First, 8 players that everyone agrees will be off the board before the Sixers' #24 selection:
Nassir Little: 11, 15, 13, 13, 12
PJ Washington: 12, 13, 18, 16, 17
Rui Hachimura: 13, 18, 11, 11, 13
Tyler Herro: 14, 21, 21, 15, 14
Romeo Langford: 15, 16, 17, 22, 16
Goga Bitadze: 17, 14, 12, 19, 22
Brandon Clarke: 18, 11, 14, 14, 10
Bol Bol: 20, 12, 20, 20, 21

Then 11 players who may or may not be there depending on which list you consult. Pick your top 6 from this list. The Sixers can get one of those players. Ordered by how many mock drafts say the player will still be available:

(1/5) Keldon Johnson: 16, 19, 28, 18, 20
(1/5) Nickeil Alexander-Walker: 26, 17, 16, 12, 15
(2/5) Matisse Thybulle: 23, 25, 22, 48, 23
(2/5) Cam Johnson: 32, 22, 24, 21, 18
(3/5) Mfiondu Kabengele: 22, 26, -, 27, 19 (draftsite.com forgot Kabengele completely?)
(3/5) Kevin Porter: 30, 20, 15, 30, 24
(3/5) Grant Williams: 36, 24, 19, 17, 27
(4/5) Bruno Fernando: 19, 28, 35, 26, 30
(4/5) Eric Paschall: 21, 40, -, 41, 35
(4/5) KZ Okpala: 25, 27, 23, 25, 28
(4/5) Chuma Okeke: 27, 36, 26, 23, 39
(4/5) Luka Samanic: 29, 23, 27, 32, 29


And then 11 players where all 5 say they will be available at #24, but at least one mock draft has them taken #34 or earlier:
Ty Jerome: 24, 30, 32, 29, 25
Dylan Windler: 28, 34, 34, 28, 32
Darius Bazley: 31, 31, 33, 50, 38
Carsen Edwards: 33, 33, 31, 31, 37
Nicolas Claxton: 34, 29, 25, 43, 26
Daniel Gafford: 35, 37, 47, 34, 34
Luguentz Dort: 39, 32, 36, 24, 33
Talen Horton-Tucker: 51, 35, 30, 38, 36
Tacko Fall: 54, 55, 48, 33, 56
Deividas Sirvydis: -, 41, 29, -, 41
Admiral Schofield: -, 44, -, 35, 31

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ETA: A 5th mock draft from cbssports.com


I just updated this with a 5th mock draft. If Bazley is gone before #24, it will surprise the pundits. Nobody has him that high as of today. But him cancelling a workout might move him up the board.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 

Post#125 » by Foshan » Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:48 am

Really hope we keep our first three picks (I’d be happy to keep all 5 actually) but would understand if there is hesitation to do that.
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Post#126 » by FlyingArrow » Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:55 am

Black Mage wrote:You're kidding right??? That guy is going to have his lunch taken from him every game. He is just as frail and weak as his dad was. I want nothing to do with him.


Manute Bol was a role player, but what a role. His career BLK% is double that of Patrick Ewing, Andrei Kililenko, Ben Wallace, or even Tim Duncan. Highest career BLK% ever (min:300 games) and the three highest BLK% seasons on record. He had serious problems on the offensive end - enough that he was almost always a bench player, but was a net positive. It really has nothing to do with how good Bol Bol is one way or the other, though.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 

Post#127 » by FlyingArrow » Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:57 am

Foshan wrote:Really hope we keep our first three picks (I’d be happy to keep all 5 actually) but would understand if there is hesitation to do that.


It would be nice to combine two picks into an earlier pick or just trade a pick this year for a pick in a future year.

Although, really, this is the year to have 5 picks. We need to fill out a roster cheaply. After two max signings and a few others in the 3-10M range, we'll still have 2 to 5 slots to fill with draft picks or minimum contracts. If two of our 2nd round picks make the roster, that's two players on a rookie minimum (presumably) instead of a veteran minimum. That frees up over $1M to help re-sign JJ or sign a free agent. And you can't really know beforehand which two of the four might do well enough in summer league/training camp to be worth the roster slots. Plus two of them can be two-way players. Makes sense to trade or stash one of them, but we can actually make use of 4 drafted players this year. Shake should get an NBA contract, and it seems unlikely Haywood Highsmith get renewed, so two open spots for two-way players. And tons of empty roster slots as Amir, Monroe, Ennis, and Furkan are all almost certainly not returning. McConnell is probably 50/50, and no guarantee on Boban or Mike Scott either. We'll hopefully sign a couple of free agents with BAE/MLE, but that still leaves room for draftees to make the roster.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 

Post#128 » by Sixerscan » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:17 am

PhilasFinest wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:Listening to the Ringer NBA podcast and they're talking about how Cam Johnson has been flagged for health reasons in his hip. Sounds like a Sixers pick.


****. That gut feeling I've had for 2months just turned real.

Red shirts the 24 year old rookie. FML LOL


May as well draft an already injured guy so we don't screw up some poor healthy kid.
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Post#129 » by Foshan » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:17 am

Agreed. I think we could easily have a back up PG-Wing-Big actually make the roster. While still taking our last two guys as GLeague guys (Norvell/King)

In terms of moving picks, I’d be more inclined to use some of next year’s seconds to move up our picks this year. I don’t remember, but I thought we had like 6 in the next two years? I’d be happy using a couple of those to move up any of the picks that we have a few spots.
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Post#130 » by Kobblehead » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:28 am

Bol Bol is a phenom.

Don't be under the impression that he's some dunk & block role player. He's a legit 20+ 10+, with defense, guy.
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Post#131 » by Foshan » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:37 am

Kobblehead wrote:Bol Bol is a phenom.

Don't be under the impression that he's some dunk & block role player. He's a legit 20+ 10+, with defense, guy.

If he starts slipping, I hope we leverage some future seconds to try to move up a couple spots for him.

What about his personality? Does he have a drive to compete and win?

Put him on the Embiid diet and let’s role :):)
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Post#132 » by Kolkmania » Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:06 am

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Kobblehead wrote:Bol Bol is a phenom.

Don't be under the impression that he's some dunk & block role player. He's a legit 20+ 10+, with defense, guy.

If he starts slipping, I hope we leverage some future seconds to try to move up a couple spots for him.

What about his personality? Does he have a drive to compete and win?

Put him on the Embiid diet and let’s role :):)


If we make any trades, I hope we replenish our future draft assets instead of depleting it any further. Certainly not for a center who doesn't have any mobility (and therefore can't play with Embiid).

Btw, Bol Bol and Cameron Reddish had questionable work ethic and motor in high school. They're definitely not high character guys.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 

Post#133 » by No-Man » Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:11 am

Kobblehead wrote:Terence Davis and Tres Tinkle have been on my favs list for like three years now. Has the draft community became aware of their existence yet or are we about to steal them with late 2nds or UDFA signings?

Davis is going top40, 1st round possibly, Tinkle ain't in this draft, I'd have had Tres late 1st/early 2nd had he stayed in
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 

Post#134 » by No-Man » Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:12 am

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smittybanton wrote:re-watched the highlights of unc v. kentucky (12.22.18). shooting skill was evident. even took it to the hole three times with success, although it wasn't the prettiest. agile enough to bounce around and switch on defense. but just didn't seem to have any other effect on the game. passing, rebounding, pressure defense, weakside helping, finishing on the break? the most disappointing part is that unc was down in the guts of the game trying to make a comeback, and the senior super shooter is not even on the floor. they didn't even bring him in for offense when kentucky was shooting free throws. and this was december, when his knowledge advantage over the younger players should've been widest.

feels like a tall isaiah canaan to me... i would pray cam's length within the system make a huge difference between the two.

we already need a backup five who can anchor the second unit and be a spot starter. acquiring dedmon, bryant, nerlens, or whomever would be even more important if we were to draft cam johnson.


Big 76ers and UNC fan, Cam is a really nice player I'm in shock people have him rated so high in mocks. Honestly I won't be happy if we pick him at 24. He's just a solid 4 year college player. Good kid plays with effort . To me there's nothing special about his game that sets him apart you can say his shooting but he was kind of an up and down player. Never felt like he was great coming off screens and he's not gonna beat u off the dribble. Gives effort on defense but he's not that gritty tough guy. I think he's a poor man's Justin Jackson another UNC alum who Sacramento picked 2 years ago.

Exactly. A poor man's Justin Jackson. There will be better options with a 1st round pick.

He is miles better than Justin

The back though, and his injury history, he is as risky in that regard as Killian Tillie or Jontay Porter, somebody said he has been red flagged due to it
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 

Post#135 » by Kolkmania » Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:26 am

Assuming we run it back:

Simmons - ...... - ......
Redick - Zhaire - ......
Butler - ...... - ......
Harris - Scott - ......
Embiid - MLE - Bolden

If anything we dont need to draft a center imo. We need someone with experience to give us quality minutes behind Embiid. We cannot rely on a rookie or Bolden to do so. Sure you can take a developmental big with one of 42 or 54, but he'll spend the majority of the time in the G-League.

There's one (realistic) scenario for me that I would consider trading up, that's if NAW falls. Otherwise, my ideal scenario would be: Grant Williams at #24, Carsen Edwards at #32 and Chuma Okeke at #33. Then either trade 42 and 52 for a future second round pick or a pick an upside player (Jordan Poole for example).

Dependent on the cost of the backup center I would try to use the remainder of our exceptions to resign Ennis and sign Milton for a long-term contract.

Simmons - Shake - Edwards
Redick - Zhaire - Poole
Butler - Ennis - Williams
Harris - Scott - Okeke
Embiid - Dedmon - Bolden
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 

Post#136 » by No-Man » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:22 am

I'd target Koufos or O'Quinn for the minimum, better to invest the MLE elsewhere, also Dedmon could likely get $20M for 2 years from ATL or like $12M 1 year deals elsewhere (Boston maybe)

In case anybody cares, this is my top60, plus some other guys

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Post#137 » by Kolkmania » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:24 am

Fischella wrote:I'd target Koufos or O'Quinn for the minimum, better to invest the MLE elsewhere, also Dedmon could likely get $20M for 2 years from ATL or like $12M 1 year deals elsewhere (Boston maybe)


That's fair, hence my comment about the cost. Not entirely sure what's the status, but if we're able to spend the full NT-MLE I would like to split that amount to sign Shake Milton on a longterm contract and a capable back-up center.

Interesting big board. What makes you so extremely high on Tyler Herro?
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Post#138 » by BullyKing » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:19 pm

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Hold on to your butts if they end up taking him. Not only because of the questionable use of draft resources but because it would mean this regime doesn't understand that you're not required to disclose all of your draft plans like an SEC 10-Q.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 

Post#139 » by kriss73 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:28 pm

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Hold on to your butts if they end up taking him. Not only because of the questionable use of draft resources but because it would mean this regime doesn't understand that you're not required to disclose all of your draft plans like an SEC 10-Q.
No One is do dumb to let the truth come out one day before the draft.
Imho this is the confirmation that we're not drafting Cam at #24.
Later? Maybe if he is still on the board.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 

Post#140 » by Mik317 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:44 pm

I’d be fine with Cam in the second.... not with that first tho
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