Do you think Rob Pelinka even realized he needed to re-do the trade for extra cap? Or only after the internet did?

[Sixerscan]

Can please someone explain it to me as if I'm 5 years old, why our cap space changes in accordance with the date of the completion of Davis trade?

It doesn't change. Whether you are using cap space changes.

If you have enough salary where you can match Davis' contract, then you don't need cap space to make the trade, you can just use all of your cap space, *then* use the salaries to match Davis' contract (and go over the cap to trade for him.)

If you don't have enough salary to match him, then you have to cut into your cap space to make the trade, which takes away your max cap space.

The relevance of the date is that the salary of the #4 pick can't be used for purposes of matching salary until 30 days after he signs.

Read on Twitter

The Lakers are now trying to match Davis' salary without the #4 picks's salary (so they can trade him immediately like the Pels want) by including their 3 remaining players. But the only way that works is AD waiving his $4 million trade kicker

[Michael Lucky]

It makes no sense to assume to that this wasn't brought up during trade talks as much as it's makes no sense to assume to that the Pelicans would simply agree to those terms when it goes against their interests to do so. The rest just builds an interesting story since it is the "it" thing to go after Pelinka these days.

[Detective]

:-?

I think this is the internet thinking too highly of themselves.

Could be, that's not out of the question. However, then I remember that Dark Knight quote.

[Sixerscan]

It makes no sense to assume to that this wasn't brought up during trade talks as much as it's makes no sense to assume to that the Pelicans would simply agree to those terms when it goes against their interests to do so. The rest just builds an interesting story since it is the "it" thing to go after Pelinka these days.

The Grizzlies and Suns were confused about which Brooks was being traded.

You're probably right but then again I was being told all weekend by Lakers fans that Pelinka obviously was going to get the trade pushed back to the 30th so...

[INKtastic]

Can please someone explain it to me as if I'm 5 years old, why our cap space changes in accordance with the date of the completion of Davis trade?

Before they trade for AD, they only have 66 million + the first year salary of #4 pick + cap holds for open roster spots out of a 109 million cap. They could use the different to sign free agents, including a max free agent.

However, if they do that on July 6th, the first day they are allowed to sign anyone, they don't have enough outgoing salary to trade for Davis without signing the #4 pick first. But if they sign the #4 pick, they can't trade him for 30 days.

If they make the trade first, they don't have to sign the pick because they have cap space to use in the trade for Davis, but they only have about $24 million in cap space to sign players after the trade.

[Michael Lucky]

It makes no sense to assume to that this wasn't brought up during trade talks as much as it's makes no sense to assume to that the Pelicans would simply agree to those terms when it goes against their interests to do so. The rest just builds an interesting story since it is the "it" thing to go after Pelinka these days.

The Grizzlies and Suns were confused about which Brooks was being traded.

You're probably right but then again I was being told all weekend by Lakers fans that Pelinka obviously was going to get the trade pushed back to the 30th so...

my point still stands.

[INKtastic]

Can please someone explain it to me as if I'm 5 years old, why our cap space changes in accordance with the date of the completion of Davis trade?

It doesn't change. Whether you are using cap space changes.

If you have enough salary where you can match Davis' contract, then you don't need cap space to make the trade, you can just use all of your cap space, *then* use the salaries to match Davis' contract (and go over the cap to trade for him.)

If you don't have enough salary to match him, then you have to cut into your cap space to make the trade, which takes away your max cap space.

The relevance of the date is that the salary of the #4 pick can't be used for purposes of matching salary until 30 days after he signs.

Read on Twitter

The Lakers are now trying to match Davis' salary without the #4 picks's salary (so they can trade him immediately like the Pels want) by including their 3 remaining players. But the only way that works is AD waiving his $4 million trade kicker

he doesn't have to waive his trade kicker to get traded immediately, they don't have to match salaries since they have cap space.

[Sixerscan]

Can please someone explain it to me as if I'm 5 years old, why our cap space changes in accordance with the date of the completion of Davis trade?

It doesn't change. Whether you are using cap space changes.

If you have enough salary where you can match Davis' contract, then you don't need cap space to make the trade, you can just use all of your cap space, *then* use the salaries to match Davis' contract (and go over the cap to trade for him.)

If you don't have enough salary to match him, then you have to cut into your cap space to make the trade, which takes away your max cap space.

The relevance of the date is that the salary of the #4 pick can't be used for purposes of matching salary until 30 days after he signs.

Read on Twitter

The Lakers are now trying to match Davis' salary without the #4 picks's salary (so they can trade him immediately like the Pels want) by including their 3 remaining players. But the only way that works is AD waiving his $4 million trade kicker

he doesn't have to waive his trade kicker to get traded immediately, they don't have to match salaries since they have cap space.

Right yeah I just meant if they wanted to still have the max cap space.

[zimpy27]

I highly doubt it, in fact if you operate under the assumption that people know how to do the basics of their job you will see that the media are great at spewing nonsense that gets headlines.

[The Laker Kid]

Lakers fans war on Woj is easily a Top 5 Most Cringy subplot of the past 10 offseasons.

OP is a Raps fan. I’m cool with Woj. Why would LAL fans hate him? He’s just a guy delivering the news.

[Detective]

Lakers fans war on Woj is easily a Top 5 Most Cringy subplot of the past 10 offseasons.

OP is a Raps fan. I’m cool with Woj. Why would LAL fans hate him? He’s just a guy delivering the news.

One source can confirm the news about the OP.

[Indomitable]

Rob Pelinka is the dumbest GM in the NBA and it's not even close. First of all he traded away a potential all star in Brandon Ingram and a decent point guard in Lonzo Ball,5 1st round picks for a 1 year rental in Anthony Davis.Second of all he has no idea how the salary cap works. Third of all,he's pretending as if any team would take players like MO Wagner and those other scrubs that the Lakers are offering to clear cap space. Even the Kings front office back in the 2015/2016 season wasn't nearly as incompetent and as desperate as the LA Lakers front office is right now.

LOL at the salt of this post. I cant wait to come back to this post 2-3 weeks.

Nobody is.scared of old Lebron and wimpy brow.

Both of these guys.struggle with health. You have no depth.

[The Laker Kid]

Rob Pelinka is the dumbest GM in the NBA and it's not even close. First of all he traded away a potential all star in Brandon Ingram and a decent point guard in Lonzo Ball,5 1st round picks for a 1 year rental in Anthony Davis.Second of all he has no idea how the salary cap works. Third of all,he's pretending as if any team would take players like MO Wagner and those other scrubs that the Lakers are offering to clear cap space. Even the Kings front office back in the 2015/2016 season wasn't nearly as incompetent and as desperate as the LA Lakers front office is right now.

Last week Ingram and Ball were trash according to RealGM, and now they’re potential all-star??

[igorbianch]

It’s against the CBA to discuss the date of the trade.

Do the internet experts know that?

[Lalouie]

coincidence?

[Michael Lucky]

Rob Pelinka is the dumbest GM in the NBA and it's not even close. First of all he traded away a potential all star in Brandon Ingram and a decent point guard in Lonzo Ball,5 1st round picks for a 1 year rental in Anthony Davis.Second of all he has no idea how the salary cap works. Third of all,he's pretending as if any team would take players like MO Wagner and those other scrubs that the Lakers are offering to clear cap space. Even the Kings front office back in the 2015/2016 season wasn't nearly as incompetent and as desperate as the LA Lakers front office is right now.

Last week Ingram and Ball were trash according to RealGM, and now they’re potential all-star??

Yeah i wasn't seeing as many potential all star posts a few weeks ago in the GB either when it came to Brandon Ingram. Mostly heard "medical liability" "will be out of the league soon" "can't shoot" "career over" on and on and on.

[Detective]

It’s against the CBA to discuss the date of the trade.

Do the internet experts know that?

Well, that seems to make the situation even worse, considering many sources within the Laker organization have been peddling the idea of pushing the trade into late July, per local media talking heads.

Wherever could that magic date of July 31st come from?

[Darthlukey]

Can please someone explain it to me as if I'm 5 years old, why our cap space changes in accordance with the date of the completion of Davis trade?

They can sign players using cap space in the lead up to the 30th, then trade for AD as an 'over the cap team'. If they trade for him first, he uses up more of their existing cap room.

[Darthlukey]

Rob Pelinka is the dumbest GM in the NBA and it's not even close. First of all he traded away a potential all star in Brandon Ingram and a decent point guard in Lonzo Ball,5 1st round picks for a 1 year rental in Anthony Davis.Second of all he has no idea how the salary cap works. Third of all,he's pretending as if any team would take players like MO Wagner and those other scrubs that the Lakers are offering to clear cap space. Even the Kings front office back in the 2015/2016 season wasn't nearly as incompetent and as desperate as the LA Lakers front office is right now.

Last week Ingram and Ball were trash according to RealGM, and now they’re potential all-star??

How is AD a rental for the Lakers? He was a rental for every other team, his management saw to that

[Richfield]

If I'm giving Pelinka the benefit of the doubt, and not sure I want to do that, but I will for the purpose of mentioning the possibilities.

Maybe he just wanted to get the handshake part of the agreement to make sure he got AD first, instead of trying to do something even more difficult while other offers were coming in to the Pelicans.

Then maybe he either..

a) figured out or already knew that he was a few mil off from from having another max slot open, and decided to go for opening it up all the way, after the hand shake part, to see if he could get a big 3..

or

b) after the handshake part, got a tip from an agent or player telling him that now that they've got AD, that another max player was all of a sudden willing to come to LA for the max. Perhaps that unknown player wasn't talking LA before, but since the trade is reconsidering.