2019 NBA Draft

[No-Man]

I'd target Koufos or O'Quinn for the minimum, better to invest the MLE elsewhere, also Dedmon could likely get $20M for 2 years from ATL or like $12M 1 year deals elsewhere (Boston maybe)

That's fair, hence my comment about the cost. Not entirely sure what's the status, but if we're able to spend the full NT-MLE I would like to split that amount to sign Shake Milton on a longterm contract and a capable back-up center.

Interesting big board. What makes you so extremely high on Tyler Herro?

Keeping the team you have and spending the whole MLE would be pricey as **** for Harris, not sure that'd happen

Herro quickly; elite touch+good feel+solid size even with lack of length+great motor+physical+solid athletic profile+stud work-ethic

Willing to bet on him

[MambaJuice]

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Hold on to your butts if they end up taking him. Not only because of the questionable use of draft resources but because it would mean this regime doesn't understand that you're not required to disclose all of your draft plans like an SEC 10-Q.

Please be a smokescreen. Maybe we can get Boston or OKC to bite on him.

[Negrodamus]

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Hold on to your butts if they end up taking him. Not only because of the questionable use of draft resources but because it would mean this regime doesn't understand that you're not required to disclose all of your draft plans like an SEC 10-Q.

Sadly, I completely believe that he's their primary target. Hopefully someone is dying to draft him and is willing to trade up a la Mikal Bridges.

[Kobblehead]

Who in the organization keeps running their mouth so irresponsibly about our draft targets over the last couple of years?

[PhillyFan11]

Don’t get the hate for Cam Johnson? Do I think he’s a future all-star? Nope. But he for sure fills a role and is a safe pick to contribute. He’s also not a bad athlete and doesn’t have any limitations where he shouldn’t be able to improve. Is there a reason I’m missing that people don’t think Cam could be a joe ingles type contributor?

[Kobblehead]

He can't create, he can't score, he can't stuff the statsheet, he can't defend and it's painfully obvious that he's going to project as a non-playing deep bench player come postseason.

Good personality, smart kid, and B shooting tool are his only good qualities.

[Negrodamus]

Don’t get the hate for Cam Johnson? Do I think he’s a future all-star? Nope. But he for sure fills a role and is a safe pick to contribute. He’s also not a bad athlete and doesn’t have any limitations where he shouldn’t be able to improve. Is there a reason I’m missing that people don’t think Cam could be a joe ingles type contributor?

There is no such thing as "a safe pick to contribute" in the draft. I've never understood that fallacy.

[MambaJuice]

In addition to being an injury risk, Cam has one transferrable skill. Guys with one skill belong in round 2. If he had shown potential for another skill (defense, attacking closeouts, passing, anything), it would have surfaced and he'd be ok to draft in the 1st. A first rounder has to be able to do more than one thing well.

[Kolkmania]

Don’t get the hate for Cam Johnson? Do I think he’s a future all-star? Nope. But he for sure fills a role and is a safe pick to contribute. He’s also not a bad athlete and doesn’t have any limitations where he shouldn’t be able to improve. Is there a reason I’m missing that people don’t think Cam could be a joe ingles type contributor?

There is no such thing as "a safe pick to contribute" in the draft. I've never understood that fallacy.

Absolutely agree. If anything, drafting older guys who weren't difference-makers in college are extremely risky picks.

People underestimate the massive difference between the NBA and college levels. Just because Cameron Johnson looks like an decent prospect in many aspects in college (especially in highlights), it doesn't mean that he can keep up in the NBA.

[Kobblehead]

Dude was a JAG through 4 years of eligibility until he finally popped as a 5th year senior.

[Mik317]

again my main issue with him is that every UNC game I watched there was a moment in which he'd be on the floor looking like he just got shanked in the back. And now w/ news of red flags coming out... yeah no thanks

especially for an older prospect.

[BullyKing]

Who in the organization keeps running their mouth so irresponsibly about our draft targets over the last couple of years?

Barbara Bottini?

[PhillyFan11]

Don’t get the hate for Cam Johnson? Do I think he’s a future all-star? Nope. But he for sure fills a role and is a safe pick to contribute. He’s also not a bad athlete and doesn’t have any limitations where he shouldn’t be able to improve. Is there a reason I’m missing that people don’t think Cam could be a joe ingles type contributor?

There is no such thing as "a safe pick to contribute" in the draft. I've never understood that fallacy.

Absolutely agree. If anything, drafting older guys who weren't difference-makers in college are extremely risky picks.

People underestimate the massive difference between the NBA and college levels. Just because Cameron Johnson looks like an decent prospect in many aspects in college (especially in highlights), it doesn't mean that he can keep up in the NBA.

Ok “safer” is a better word. And he doesn’t need to keep up. His offensive demands will consist of standing in 1 place and shooting the ball...which he happens to be already really good at. There really isn’t that much to it. If you’re expecting to draft some really well rounded prospect with no holes you’re crazy.
I would never consider Cam if we were a team that’s picking in the top 20 looking to add starters/impact players. But for what we need? He’s a damn good fit.

[nitocobola]

we will get him in the second round, where he belongs

[Negrodamus]

There is no such thing as "a safe pick to contribute" in the draft. I've never understood that fallacy.

Absolutely agree. If anything, drafting older guys who weren't difference-makers in college are extremely risky picks.

People underestimate the massive difference between the NBA and college levels. Just because Cameron Johnson looks like an decent prospect in many aspects in college (especially in highlights), it doesn't mean that he can keep up in the NBA.

Ok “safer” is a better word. And he doesn’t need to keep up. His offensive demands will consist of standing in 1 place and shooting the ball...which he happens to be already really good at. There really isn’t that much to it. If you’re expecting to draft some really well rounded prospect with no holes you’re crazy.
I would never consider Cam if we were a team that’s picking in the top 20 looking to add starters/impact players. But for what we need? He’s a damn good fit.

Now show me what player we can model him after. He's old, injury prone, skinny, and only shoots. There might have been a player like this before, but he definitely didn't provide anything for his team in the first couple of years and likely didn't begin producing until he was on his 2nd, 3rd, 4th team. Also probably wasn't a first rounder.

[kriss73]

we will get him in the second round, where he belongs

I'M with you. At #24 we're going to pick one of the guys in the green room plus Thybulle or Mutombo's nepfhew

[LloydFree]

Don’t get the hate for Cam Johnson? Do I think he’s a future all-star? Nope. But he for sure fills a role and is a safe pick to contribute. He’s also not a bad athlete and doesn’t have any limitations where he shouldn’t be able to improve. Is there a reason I’m missing that people don’t think Cam could be a joe ingles type contributor?

There is no such thing as "a safe pick to contribute" in the draft. I've never understood that fallacy.

Absolutely agree. If anything, drafting older guys who weren't difference-makers in college are extremely risky picks.

People underestimate the massive difference between the NBA and college levels. Just because Cameron Johnson looks like an decent prospect in many aspects in college (especially in highlights), it doesn't mean that he can keep up in the NBA.

It's not just risky, it's plain dumb. You can sign veterans for minimum salaries to give you what you're likely to get from this kind of player.

[FlyingArrow]

If he lasts long enough, Kabengele would be my preference. Mock drafts seem to be 50/50 on whether he lasts until #24.

[No-Man]

He can't create, he can't score, he can't stuff the statsheet, he can't defend and it's painfully obvious that he's going to project as a non-playing deep bench player come postseason.

Good personality, smart kid, and B shooting tool are his only good qualities.

A+ shooting really

[No-Man]

Dude was a JAG through 4 years of eligibility until he finally popped as a 5th year senior.

This is not true whatsoever, Cam was really good at Pitt, was awesome in 16-17 at age 20-21