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Post#1401 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:29 pm

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Probably because having sources with the Suns isn’t the same thing as having sources with the Cardinals, and he’s been breaking Suns news since Shams was in high school. It’s no worse than paying attention to random twitter accounts and people like Ashley Nevel.


Sources that have panned out what exactly? His sourcing and track record have been an embarrassment. He's basically the little b*tch boy the team trots out when they want to spread misinfo and a shill in every sense of the word.


I mean I’m not going to waste my time searching through his prediction history but you’re kidding yourself if he hasn’t been right more way often than not with the Suns. People like to point to last year’s draft, but we’ve seen multiple reports indicating that Sarver intervened real-time. Even Woj was deleting tweets with our draft. I don’t like Gambo, but Suns fans just like to trash Gambo because he says a lot of stuff they don’t want to hear.


I haven't listened to Gambo much in a very long time (though after seeing my twitter timeline filled with him yesterday I tuned in for a few minutes). Back when I did, and this was early 2000s, he didn't know anything. And at that time I had some connections among the coaching staff. He just sounded like a loudmouthed fan. I don't even think he's particularly that knowledgeable about the overall NBA, CBA and that stuff and think he has a lot of hot takes.

Now there was a huge stretch in there I didn't listen to him or know what he was doing. Basically most of since Sarver owned the team. And I think some said Sarver used him as a mouthpiece, which wouldn't be exactly surprising. I don't think McD really did (even if Sarver did without McD's knowledge) and I'm guessing Jones and company would likely try to get Sarver to shut it down completely if he was talking to Gambo about real info.
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Post#1402 » by alamin330 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:31 pm

Suns first chance at making the playoffs next year out the window. Let's see how many other chances we pass on. That was the most basic trade for an elite level pg. Let's also pass on DLO and go get Collison or Corey Joseph and draft Clarke. Those guys will help us continue to lose. Perfect.
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Post#1403 » by RaisingArizona » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:36 pm

alamin330 wrote:Suns first chance at making the playoffs next year out the window. Let's see how many other chances we pass on. That was the most basic trade for an elite level pg. Let's also pass on DLO and go get Collison or Corey Joseph and draft Clarke. Those guys will help us continue to lose. Perfect.


I'm already starting to get worried :lol:
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Post#1404 » by Crives » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:38 pm

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alamin330 wrote:Suns first chance at making the playoffs next year out the window. Let's see how many other chances we pass on. That was the most basic trade for an elite level pg. Let's also pass on DLO and go get Collison or Corey Joseph and draft Clarke. Those guys will help us continue to lose. Perfect.


I'm already starting to get worried :lol:


Calm down. We have Devin Booker. Trust in Jones.
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Post#1405 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:39 pm

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alamin330 wrote:Suns first chance at making the playoffs next year out the window. Let's see how many other chances we pass on. That was the most basic trade for an elite level pg. Let's also pass on DLO and go get Collison or Corey Joseph and draft Clarke. Those guys will help us continue to lose. Perfect.


I'm already starting to get worried :lol:


There is like a 1% chance we make the playoffs no matter what we do. The west is so stacked with experience and talent and our core is still extremely young and was embarrassed in many games last year. I'll be happy to just watch competitive basketball....our guys staying motivated, healthy, improving, developing, continuing the unity that may have started. We are likely a ways from vaulting into the playoffs barring a bunch of significant injuries on various teams.
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Post#1406 » by BobbieL » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:40 pm

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kennydorglas wrote:Nice trade for Utah.


Big upgrade over Rubio. Also not sure why we are hearing Rubio's name when its been stated we want some that can also play off the ball which Rubio has zero value at, also been stated we want someone that can score at all 3 levels and Rubio can only score at one. Makes zero sense why he would be a fit on this team.


I am at the point with Jones/crew that nothing that has been reported is accurate with the exception of Warren and Josh are probably on the trade block. But DLo or not DLo; what other PG; what PF - who are they going to draft

nobody knows
certainly not anybody local like Gambo or Nevel or Sidery
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Post#1407 » by Sunsdeuce » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:40 pm

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alamin330 wrote:Suns first chance at making the playoffs next year out the window. Let's see how many other chances we pass on. That was the most basic trade for an elite level pg. Let's also pass on DLO and go get Collison or Corey Joseph and draft Clarke. Those guys will help us continue to lose. Perfect.


I'm already starting to get worried :lol:


Calm down. We have Devin Booker. Trust in Jones.

LMAO. Jones has proven nothing to have any trust in him other than screwing up a trade that worked out better because he screwed it up.
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Post#1408 » by NapoleonII » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:41 pm

Jrue isn't a point guard.

He's said this himself.
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Post#1409 » by Qwigglez » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:41 pm

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Qwigglez wrote:I think Suns are debating on 6th pick, Johnson, Jackson for Jrue. We are waiting for more clarification on the Nets situation, thinking we might have a shot at DLo if he gets renounced.

My best guess at what our front office is considering. I think the Pelicans understand it’ll take Zion a few years and by the time he’s ready for the next step Jrue will be well over 30. I’m sure they would happily accept our package.


That makes sense. But Jrue will also be older for the Suns. Granted, the Suns need to start WINNING.

What about this trade. Hawks trade up to 6 with the Suns. Suns get Clarke at 8 or 10 - --
Hawks than trade to the KNicks the 6 and 10 for #3

(granted if Clarke gets drafted at 10 -- Knicks can get 6 and 8)

Yeah Jrue definitely will be older for the Suns too. Which is why I think the trade is there if we really wanted it but again we are waiting to hear more about what is going on with Brooklyn. If it sounds like the Nets are going to keep DLo then the Suns will pull the trigger on Jrue. We are hoping Kyries people will confirm he is going to Brooklyn.

It’s likely coming down to the wire for us, because the draft is so close. Just my hot take.
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Post#1410 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:43 pm

I'm not even sure what a suns Conley deal that tops that would even look like. Memphis got salary relief in this by Utah absorbing most of Conley into cap space. Thats something the suns couldn't offer. Then they are likely getting a 1st rounder in 2022 which could be the double draft and is not the type of thing the suns should trade for a 2 yr rental.

This was a nessesary risk trade for Utah who's in a far different spot than the suns currently. It's absolutely the type of move you make to try to push over the top. Taking that risk just to try to fight for 40 wins is another story imo.

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Post#1411 » by alamin330 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:43 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
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alamin330 wrote:Suns first chance at making the playoffs next year out the window. Let's see how many other chances we pass on. That was the most basic trade for an elite level pg. Let's also pass on DLO and go get Collison or Corey Joseph and draft Clarke. Those guys will help us continue to lose. Perfect.


I'm already starting to get worried :lol:


There is like a 1% chance we make the playoffs no matter what we do. The west is so stacked with experience and talent and our core is still extremely young and was embarrassed in many games last year. I'll be happy to just watch competitive basketball....our guys staying motivated, healthy, improving, developing, continuing the unity that may have started. We are likely a ways from vaulting into the playoffs barring a bunch of significant injuries on various teams.

Our chances are definitely getting worse when we let our opponents improve their teams while we are targeting 2nd - 3rd string players as our options for starter minutes. Even if Jones isnt interested in DLO he should be saying he is so we at least know he has some sense.
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Post#1412 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:44 pm

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Qwigglez wrote:I think Suns are debating on 6th pick, Johnson, Jackson for Jrue. We are waiting for more clarification on the Nets situation, thinking we might have a shot at DLo if he gets renounced.

My best guess at what our front office is considering. I think the Pelicans understand it’ll take Zion a few years and by the time he’s ready for the next step Jrue will be well over 30. I’m sure they would happily accept our package.


That makes sense. But Jrue will also be older for the Suns. Granted, the Suns need to start WINNING.

What about this trade. Hawks trade up to 6 with the Suns. Suns get Clarke at 8 or 10 - --
Hawks than trade to the KNicks the 6 and 10 for #3

(granted if Clarke gets drafted at 10 -- Knicks can get 6 and 8)

Yeah Jrue definitely will be older for the Suns too. Which is why I think the trade is there if we really wanted it but again we are waiting to hear more about what is going on with Brooklyn. If it sounds like the Nets are going to keep DLo then the Suns will pull the trigger on Jrue. We are hoping Kyries people will confirm he is going to Brooklyn.

It’s likely coming down to the wire for us, because the draft is so close. Just my hot take.


I still don't think Jrue is on the block.
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Post#1413 » by Ghost of Kleine » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:45 pm

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Post#1414 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:45 pm

NapoleonII wrote:Jrue isn't a point guard.

He's said this himself.
People do tend to ignore this.

I love Holliday. But I'm afraid it might be a catch 22 situation where the only way NO trades him is if he asks out to go contend and if he's doing that I can't imagine him being super stoked to go to Phoenix so you might immediately get an unhappy player who wants out.

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Post#1415 » by Crives » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:47 pm

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21 = Mfiondu!

But I really hope we keep Warren.
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Post#1416 » by darmani » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:48 pm

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Post#1417 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:48 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:If it hasn't yet been posted:

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I almost posted one similar to that last night. In one of those mocks some of the twitter guys were doing, TJ and 32 were traded for 21, Roberson and PPat. I decided not to post because it didn't make sense. We would want to clear space. PPat's %s were awful, Roberson is an awesome defender but we don't need with Bridges and Oubre and he can't shoot. Plus Roberson makes as much as TJ.

Roberson has more overall impact but we can't afford to have a non shooter on the floor. Plus he's been injured for over a year.
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Post#1418 » by Qwigglez » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:49 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
RaisingArizona wrote:
alamin330 wrote:Suns first chance at making the playoffs next year out the window. Let's see how many other chances we pass on. That was the most basic trade for an elite level pg. Let's also pass on DLO and go get Collison or Corey Joseph and draft Clarke. Those guys will help us continue to lose. Perfect.


I'm already starting to get worried :lol:


There is like a 1% chance we make the playoffs no matter what we do. The west is so stacked with experience and talent and our core is still extremely young and was embarrassed in many games last year. I'll be happy to just watch competitive basketball....our guys staying motivated, healthy, improving, developing, continuing the unity that may have started. We are likely a ways from vaulting into the playoffs barring a bunch of significant injuries on various teams.

The Thunder made a huge leap in 2009-10 season and the West was ultra competitive still. They went from a 23 win team to a 50 win team. Rookie Harden, Ibaka, two years of experience in Westbrook, and third season in the league KD. I could see us making that kind of leap depending what happens this summer.
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Post#1419 » by alamin330 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:49 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:If it hasn't yet been posted:

Read on Twitter
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I almost posted one similar to that last night. In one of those mocks some of the twitter guys were doing, TJ and 32 were traded for 21, Roberson and PPat. I decided not to post because it didn't make sense. We would want to clear space. PPat's %s were awful, Roberson is an awesome defender but we don't need with Bridges and Oubre and he can't shoot. Plus Roberson makes as much as TJ.

Roberson has more overall impact but we can't afford to have a non shooter on the floor. Plus he's been injured for over a year.

plus roberson is trash
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Post#1420 » by NapoleonII » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:54 pm

I could see our front office stumbling into mediocrity with trading for somebody like Schroeder.

Are our options really Dlo (unlikely) or Rubio (terrible fit?)

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