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2019 free agency and trade ideas: part 2 Downloading

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Re: 2019 free agency and trade ideas: part 2 Downloading 

Post#1481 » by Crives » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:24 pm

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i can bet you we will be in this same position next year...if we dont land a big time player this offseason....nowhere near playoff contention...possibly new coaching rumors...and a top 6 pick ..book it


I am not sure what you mean by “big time” player. We definitely don’t need to add a player like DLo/Jrue/Conley to make a big step forward next year.

Our biggest improvements will come from the development of Book/Ayton/Bridges/Oubre. Add a starting level pg and pf to this group and doubling our win total is not out of the question.

Some good/realistic offseason scenarios that don’t involve a star FA like DLo. I would be happy if we add a player from each group below.
1- Bev/Dinwiddie/Collison/Rubio/Josep
2- Aminu/Randle/Vonleh/Kleber/Thad
3- White/Clarke/Hunter/Garland



Even if they can double their win total by signing/drafting average players (doubtful) winning 38 games and missing out on the playoffs for what will then be 10 years in a row is not exactly that exciting.


Look at the average age of the stars on the west playoff teams. If this team improves to 38 wins next year... we will be in a great position moving forward for a long time.
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Re: 2019 free agency and trade ideas: part 2 Downloading 

Post#1482 » by enigmatics » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:29 pm

bwgood77 wrote:There is no rush. The offseason is months. We don't even have Tyler's contract available to trade yet which could open up more possibiilities. Most teams will keep their plans close to the vest at least until after the draft because moves they might talk about could tip off who they might be drafting.

We should at least wait until we get into early July to assess where things are.


When can Tyler Johnson finally be jettisoned?
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Re: 2019 free agency and trade ideas: part 2 Downloading 

Post#1483 » by RaisingArizona » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:32 pm

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I am not sure what you mean by “big time” player. We definitely don’t need to add a player like DLo/Jrue/Conley to make a big step forward next year.

Our biggest improvements will come from the development of Book/Ayton/Bridges/Oubre. Add a starting level pg and pf to this group and doubling our win total is not out of the question.

Some good/realistic offseason scenarios that don’t involve a star FA like DLo. I would be happy if we add a player from each group below.
1- Bev/Dinwiddie/Collison/Rubio/Josep
2- Aminu/Randle/Vonleh/Kleber/Thad
3- White/Clarke/Hunter/Garland



Even if they can double their win total by signing/drafting average players (doubtful) winning 38 games and missing out on the playoffs for what will then be 10 years in a row is not exactly that exciting.


Look at the average age of the stars on the west playoff teams. If this team improves to 38 wins next year... we will be in a great position moving forward for a long time.


They won't with that core and Booker will want out. Time to seriously upgrade.
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Re: 2019 free agency and trade ideas: part 2 Downloading 

Post#1484 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:35 pm

enigmatics wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:There is no rush. The offseason is months. We don't even have Tyler's contract available to trade yet which could open up more possibiilities. Most teams will keep their plans close to the vest at least until after the draft because moves they might talk about could tip off who they might be drafting.

We should at least wait until we get into early July to assess where things are.


When can Tyler Johnson finally be jettisoned?


Well whenever he exercises the option. He has until June 30th, so if he doesn't exercise it, he's off the cap and we can move on and gain $19+ million.

But probably like June 30th.
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Post#1485 » by alamin330 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:35 pm

Frank N! He’s so much better than Conley or DLo. Lol. They must be joking. I think James Jones and co are trolling us.
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Re: 2019 free agency and trade ideas: part 2 Downloading 

Post#1486 » by TeamTragic » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:36 pm

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BobbieL wrote:Saw on Twitter -- not sure who - wasn't Woj or Shams so take it FWIW :

Suns and Knicks talking about Frank N.

I just looked and Frank makes basically 5m so a Josh trade only nets $2m. This doesn't make sense to me at all.

Frank is not a good player. Pointless trade. Again James Jones is not impressing at all.

Read on Twitter


Dumb trade that makes zero sense. Not happening.
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Post#1487 » by enigmatics » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:38 pm

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Post#1488 » by enigmatics » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:38 pm

BobbieL wrote:Saw on Twitter -- not sure who - wasn't Woj or Shams so take it FWIW :

Suns and Knicks talking about Frank N.

I just looked and Frank makes basically 5m so a Josh trade only nets $2m. This doesn't make sense to me at all.


That crap again? Feel like it's the 2018 offseason.
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Re: 2019 free agency and trade ideas: part 2 Downloading 

Post#1489 » by King4Day » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:40 pm

GoranTragic wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:
BobbieL wrote:Saw on Twitter -- not sure who - wasn't Woj or Shams so take it FWIW :

Suns and Knicks talking about Frank N.

I just looked and Frank makes basically 5m so a Josh trade only nets $2m. This doesn't make sense to me at all.

Frank is not a good player. Pointless trade. Again James Jones is not impressing at all.

Read on Twitter


Dumb trade that makes zero sense. Not happening.


I don't think that twitter account is ever accurate are they? Sorta like Steve Kyler or Scoop B.
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Re: 2019 free agency and trade ideas: part 2 Downloading 

Post#1490 » by RaisingArizona » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:40 pm

enigmatics wrote:
BobbieL wrote:Saw on Twitter -- not sure who - wasn't Woj or Shams so take it FWIW :

Suns and Knicks talking about Frank N.

I just looked and Frank makes basically 5m so a Josh trade only nets $2m. This doesn't make sense to me at all.


That crap again? Feel like it's the 2018 offseason.


Yeah. If there's any evidence this is true, WTF. Just laughable how the Suns can't obtain a quality point guard.
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Post#1491 » by King4Day » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:40 pm

"The Dallas Mavericks are considered the favorites to sign Al Horford this offseason, sources tell Kevin O'Connor of The Ringer."
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Post#1492 » by alamin330 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:41 pm

Lmao. You all were hating on josh. I told you. Careful what u wish for. Now we might get an even worse player in frank.
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Post#1493 » by RaisingArizona » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:41 pm

DarkHawk wrote:"The Dallas Mavericks are considered the favorites to sign Al Horford this offseason, sources tell Kevin O'Connor of The Ringer."


Oh good. Another team in the west improves
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Re: 2019 free agency and trade ideas: part 2 Downloading 

Post#1494 » by King4Day » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:41 pm

BobbieL wrote:Saw on Twitter -- not sure who - wasn't Woj or Shams so take it FWIW :

Suns and Knicks talking about Frank N.

I just looked and Frank makes basically 5m so a Josh trade only nets $2m. This doesn't make sense to me at all.


I guess it's just a swap of seemingly busts. For us, it'd fit a need at the very least.
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Re: 2019 free agency and trade ideas: part 2 Downloading 

Post#1495 » by King4Day » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:42 pm

RaisingArizona wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:"The Dallas Mavericks are considered the favorites to sign Al Horford this offseason, sources tell Kevin O'Connor of The Ringer."


Oh good. Another team in the west improves


If it happens though, that means he's just going where the money is instead of trying to win a ring.
He'll have fun there and they'll be fun to watch at least but I don't see that team competing for a ring during his tenure there.
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Re: 2019 free agency and trade ideas: part 2 Downloading 

Post#1496 » by alamin330 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:45 pm

DarkHawk wrote:
BobbieL wrote:Saw on Twitter -- not sure who - wasn't Woj or Shams so take it FWIW :

Suns and Knicks talking about Frank N.

I just looked and Frank makes basically 5m so a Josh trade only nets $2m. This doesn't make sense to me at all.


I guess it's just a swap of seemingly busts. For us, it'd fit a need at the very least.

Josh Jackson is better at franks position than frank is. Frank has no business being in the nba
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Re: 2019 free agency and trade ideas: part 2 Downloading 

Post#1497 » by enigmatics » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:45 pm

RaisingArizona wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:"The Dallas Mavericks are considered the favorites to sign Al Horford this offseason, sources tell Kevin O'Connor of The Ringer."


Oh good. Another team in the west improves


Meanwhile the Suns front office day dreaming about the perfect player that will fall into their lap years from now.

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Post#1498 » by jsierra1985 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:46 pm

frank N.

LOL....if thats true this team is a mess and just desperate....
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Post#1499 » by TASTIC » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:55 pm

Frank N isn't an upgrade from Melton or Okobo. I'd rather keep those 2. Same goes for Jackson.

Franky Smokes has done NOTHING, you could probably get him for a pick in the 40s cos they want cap-space.
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Re: 2019 free agency and trade ideas: part 2 Downloading 

Post#1500 » by Kerrsed » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:57 pm

alamin330 wrote:When you’re involved in trade discussions there are other teams involved. The leaks could come from other teams. The fact that there’s little to no information about suns players on the block probably means James Jones isn’t trying to trade them. I think tj will probably be moved on draft day. Tyler will opt out. I think JJ Gets another chance. I think we sign veteran scrubs like Collison or Aminu and keep the 6th pick and lose 55 games next year.



Little to no information about Suns players being on the block?? Really? What do you call the two biggest NBA news breakers saying that Warren and Jackson are on the block and being heavily shopped?
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