2019 NBA Draft

[Kobblehead]

The most frustrating part of wasting a pick on Cam Johnson is that Pompey has been spreading enough name recognition of him that people who don't follow college ball will be onboard with the selection.

So after he's a relative dud, the narrative will be "well, the pick made sense at the time, it just didn't work out"

Like...no, it's easy to see that this is an awful pick right now! Johnson is barely an NBA prospect. He basically has a 12th man ceiling.

[the_process]

The most frustrating part of wasting a pick on Cam Johnson is that Pompey has been spreading enough name recognition of him that people who don't follow college ball will be onboard with the selection.

So after he's a relative dud, the narrative will be "well, the pick made sense at the time, it just didn't work out"

Like...no, it's easy to see that this is an awful pick right now! Johnson is barely an NBA prospect. He basically has a 12th man ceiling.

Pompey had an article yesterday about trading up for Cam Johnson. I feel like he should be punished somehow for that bad take.

[FlyingArrow]

I just hope they go in with a ranked list. At 24, there's bound to be a surprise about who is still on the board. All it takes is one or two teams to bump a name up a half dozen spots in the "expected" order and 1 or 2 names will be available at 24 that nobody expected to last so long. Five of the following names will be available at 24:

Keldon Johnson
Nickeil Alexander-Walker
Matisse Thybulle
Cam Johnson
Kabegnele
Kevin Porter
Grant Williams
KZ Okpala
Ty Jerome
Bruno Fernando

If for any reason fewer than 5 are available, it means a "consensus" top 20 pick has slipped back to 24. It wouldn't surprise me to see one of Romeo Langford, Bol Bol, Tyler Herro, or Goga Bitadze still on the board at #24. Although I wouldn't try to guess which one. (And I also wouldn't be surprised if they all did in fact go in the top 20.)

[FlyingArrow]

The most frustrating part of wasting a pick on Cam Johnson is that Pompey has been spreading enough name recognition of him that people who don't follow college ball will be onboard with the selection.

So after he's a relative dud, the narrative will be "well, the pick made sense at the time, it just didn't work out"

Like...no, it's easy to see that this is an awful pick right now! Johnson is barely an NBA prospect. He basically has a 12th man ceiling.

Pompey had an article yesterday about trading up for Cam Johnson. I feel like he should be punished somehow for that bad take.

I wouldn't mind seeing us take Cam Johnson at 33.

[the_process]

The most frustrating part of wasting a pick on Cam Johnson is that Pompey has been spreading enough name recognition of him that people who don't follow college ball will be onboard with the selection.

So after he's a relative dud, the narrative will be "well, the pick made sense at the time, it just didn't work out"

Like...no, it's easy to see that this is an awful pick right now! Johnson is barely an NBA prospect. He basically has a 12th man ceiling.

Pompey had an article yesterday about trading up for Cam Johnson. I feel like he should be punished somehow for that bad take.

I wouldn't mind seeing us take Cam Johnson at 33.

At 34, taking Cam is okay.

[Mik317]

The most frustrating part of wasting a pick on Cam Johnson is that Pompey has been spreading enough name recognition of him that people who don't follow college ball will be onboard with the selection.

So after he's a relative dud, the narrative will be "well, the pick made sense at the time, it just didn't work out"

Like...no, it's easy to see that this is an awful pick right now! Johnson is barely an NBA prospect. He basically has a 12th man ceiling.

Pompey had an article yesterday about trading up for Cam Johnson. I feel like he should be punished somehow for that bad take.

yeah that one hurt my soul to read lol.

My go to phrase here is that I like the IDEA of Cam Johnson. Don't think the reality backs that up. Yes. We need shooters super badly. He is very much that. And while he isn't a defensive god. AT 6'8 ala Tobias it will be hard to always seek him out unless its the elites in which yeah no **** he's gonna get bodied..but otherwise I think he can hold his own for the most part. HOWEVA. Dude is made of glass. His age is a legit issue because it is very possible he finally "blossomed" due to being a grown ass man. And finally, while I get we want ready made guys to plug and play, I feel like that is just never the best way to approach anything. In my world of stupidity, I think one should always be seeking upside, regardless of your situation. So taking a specialist over someone who might have more warts but could in theory be more is always a bad idea to me.

It takes me back to the first time I really posted on this site. The big argument was about Thad Young V Al Thorton. Those for Thorton would often site, his readiness and such while saying Thad was too green and too much of a tweener. And while Thad never full fulfilled his top potential.... AL Thorton was out of the league in like 4 seasons. This idea of safe prospects is very flawed. Like even guys like Brogdon or Siakham who IIRC were mentioned as safe role player types, came into the league and showed things they didn't have in college.... I don't see that from Johnson. He isn't the athlete or ballhandler to unlock that "hidden" potential...so eh.

Again I am fine w/ him in the second...and hell I might be able to lie to myself about him in the first...but he better come w/ some upsidy type and not say Ty Jerome, who I do like but has a lot of the same issues. These picks are probably going to be more important than we think if only due to our team's fragile nature and weird fit. It would be nice to hit on a hidden gem and thus have more leeway for error instead of being in April hoping, our 24 year rookie can suddenly be a starter because Jimmy decided to become a Opera Singer or some ****, y'know?

[LloydFree]

The most frustrating part of wasting a pick on Cam Johnson is that Pompey has been spreading enough name recognition of him that people who don't follow college ball will be onboard with the selection.

So after he's a relative dud, the narrative will be "well, the pick made sense at the time, it just didn't work out"

Like...no, it's easy to see that this is an awful pick right now! Johnson is barely an NBA prospect. He basically has a 12th man ceiling.

Happens every year. Media outlets (hacks) read the same websites we read and come to a consensus on a name for a player that fits.

Its not just Philadelphia though. They're up in New York doing the same thing. WFAN has fans outraged that they could be considering Garland over RJ Barrett.

[Kobblehead]

How did Johnson get attributed being a safe pick or plug and play?

Alexander-Walker. That's a safe, plug and play pick. Multi tools, popped as underclassmen.

Johnson is the opposite, to me.

[Mik317]

How did Johnson get attributed being a safe pick or plug and play?

Alexander-Walker. That's a safe, plug and play pick. Multi tools, popped as underclassmen.

Johnson is the opposite, to me.

He played at a blue blood and can shoot.

Thats my guess as to why he is being prompt up. Feels like another Doug McDermott situation.

"hey I know that guy; he must be good then".

For Pompey it is purely that he is from PA.

[ZarcMumoff]

I doubt Johnson will last until 24.

[LloydFree]

How did Johnson get attributed being a safe pick or plug and play?

Alexander-Walker. That's a safe, plug and play pick. Multi tools, popped as underclassmen.

Johnson is the opposite, to me.

He played at a blue blood and can shoot.

Thats my guess as to why he is being prompt up. Feels like another Doug McDermott situation.

"hey I know that guy; he must be good then".

For Pompey it is purely that he is from PA.

More than that. Cam Johnson went to Pitt and Keith Pompey went to Pitt, so he follows him.

[MambaJuice]

I’m going to approach this from a different way. I’m going list a prospect and where I’d be happy taking them. These are all order of preference.

NAW, Langford, Porter Jr. (24) – I’m hyped if they fall here. Pipe dream

Kabengele, PJ Washington Keldon Johnson, Herro, Bol Bol (24) – Not as hyped but I’m happy with the value

Thybulle, Windler, Bazley, Terence Davis, Ty Jerome (24, 33, 34) – I prefer all these guys in round 2. I have to talk myself into it if they’re the pick at 24.

Gafford, King, Norvell, Lawson, Dort, McDaniels, Schofield, Lecque (34, 42, 54) – Happy to have them at these spots, depending on who’s left on the board.

[Monix]

why do people expect anything of substance from Keith Pompey?

dude's a hack

[Sixerscan]

Agreed with everyone not wanting Johnson at 24. Old, took too long to get good, gotten hurt a lot already, one trick pony. 2nd round do whatever but I want someone better at 24.

[FireMorey]

I'm not pining for anyone this year. I have preferences, but I won't be watching the draft rooting for guys to drop, it just isn't worth it. For one, odds say they'll likely be just solid role players at best picking that low, and two... 24 is too far down to watch a draft for hours and hope guys are there. I have a handful of guys I'd be fine with. Don't think a pick could piss me off there unless they take someone way out there like Pasecniks.

[Arsenal]

Ugh the dreaded "safe pick". There is no pick more likely to bust than the "safe pick".

Stay FAR AWAY from Cam Johnson.

[Kobblehead]

Just target 3 level scoring talent. That trait trumps all others, imo. That's how you position yourself to land an unexpected star.

That's why even a kid like Louis King would be such a great pick even though he's raw and didn't completely put it together during his freshman season.

[phillynative]

We probly can get windler in the 2nd round. What's the difference between him and cam johnson?

[Negrodamus]

I know it’s a late first, but if Brand drafts Cam Johnson, I’m no longer comfortable with this organization drafting talent.

[the_process]

I doubt Johnson will last until 24.

I did see a mock where the Celtics took him at 22.