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Luigi wrote:Fun fact: Conley is left handed.
Not a bad thing to have a pair of guards who can create with strengths on each side. Conley has a strong right hand, too. But if he initiates from the weak side, that gives the offense another angle.
KqWIN wrote:Luigi wrote:Fun fact: Conley is left handed.
Not a bad thing to have a pair of guards who can create with strengths on each side. Conley has a strong right hand, too. But if he initiates from the weak side, that gives the offense another angle.
Small detail that matters more than you would think. The whole design of our offense is spread the floor and attack in PnR from different angles. We typically set this up with the ball handler going to the middle, big running towards the rim, and shooter in the corner. Obviously it makes it easier for the ball handler to score going to his strong hand, but it also makes it easier for him to hit the roll man or pass to the corner for an open 3.
Some people like to **** on Quin's offense, but it's not an accident that our guys are always in perfect position and attacking from their best angle. This stuff matters. It's how Ingles-Favors PnR became an unstoppable weapon. I also think it's the reason why Hood was able to find so many more shots when he played for UTA versus anywhere else. Nobody is setting Hood's left hand like Quin did.
Joe was the only lefty we had. At times, it seemed like Ingles was getting way too involved in PnR, but it's because he's the only one who could attack from the right side with a strong left handed dribble. With Conley, we now have two of the top pick and roll ball handlers in the league and they'll attack from opposite sides of court. Don't worry about Joe though...he'll run less PnR, but get back to being in the corner where he is elite.
sipclip wrote: Conley was good but he has never been great and at 32 look for the decline to begin soon.
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zero24gravity wrote:sipclip wrote: Conley was good but he has never been great and at 32 look for the decline to begin soon.
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Perhaps a decline, but he had, arguably, his best season as a pro + he stayed healthy last season. His highest scoring average & more FTA that any other year of his career in 2018-19. Those aren't typically things that happen as you "slow down". Plus, the guy doesn't turn the ball over (under 2 TO's a game), which is awesome!
He's not without flaw, but let's be honest ..... Conley is head and shoulders above any PG the Jazz have had since the retirement of Johnny-Awesome.
JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.
babyjax13 wrote:zero24gravity wrote:sipclip wrote: Conley was good but he has never been great and at 32 look for the decline to begin soon.
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Perhaps a decline, but he had, arguably, his best season as a pro + he stayed healthy last season. His highest scoring average & more FTA that any other year of his career in 2018-19. Those aren't typically things that happen as you "slow down". Plus, the guy doesn't turn the ball over (under 2 TO's a game), which is awesome!
He's not without flaw, but let's be honest ..... Conley is head and shoulders above any PG the Jazz have had since the retirement of Johnny-Awesome.
Ahemmmm Deron Williams says hi .....
Luigi wrote:babyjax13 wrote:zero24gravity wrote:
Perhaps a decline, but he had, arguably, his best season as a pro + he stayed healthy last season. His highest scoring average & more FTA that any other year of his career in 2018-19. Those aren't typically things that happen as you "slow down". Plus, the guy doesn't turn the ball over (under 2 TO's a game), which is awesome!
He's not without flaw, but let's be honest ..... Conley is head and shoulders above any PG the Jazz have had since the retirement of Johnny-Awesome.
Ahemmmm Deron Williams says hi .....
But is he the best 3rd player we've had since Memo/AK? Conley's probably better. Best 3rd player since Hornacek?
JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.
Rauxcee wrote:My rant on the GB:
As a Jazz fan I absolutely hate this. Is there a worse GM in the league at asset management than David Lindsey? Because I don't think there is.
What a terrible, terrible trade. Memphis just took us to the shed and bent us over.
Cappy_Smurf wrote:Rauxcee wrote:My rant on the GB:
As a Jazz fan I absolutely hate this. Is there a worse GM in the league at asset management than David Lindsey? Because I don't think there is.
What a terrible, terrible trade. Memphis just took us to the shed and bent us over.
For someone who is normally a good poster, this is pretty ridiculous.
Look at where the Celtics were 2 years ago when Haywood chose them over us. Utah just had a better win/loss record than the celtics (in a tougher conference)and have now added a 3rd all-star level player to their roster, while things are coming apart at the seams for Boston.
But sure, you're probably right. We have the worstest most terriblest GM evar. There were only 7 teams better than the JAzz last year and we just made a move that could make us significantly better, but life probably isn't worth living anymore.
Sell the team!
vryadli wrote:And Neto is waived too...
That was shuffling decision as opposite to fighting decision as humanly possible. Utah just went all way to the Atlanta Wizards land. I had terrible premonitions for 6-7 years of very consistent underachievement. Comfortable losses to each stronger opponent, consisten losing of most important games to equals, some missed playoffs even...
OK, it is just a game after all.
vryadli wrote:And Neto is waived too...
That was shuffling decision as opposite to fighting decision as humanly possible. Utah just went all way to the Atlanta Wizards land. I had terrible premonitions for 6-7 years of very consistent underachievement. Comfortable losses to each stronger opponent, consisten losing of most important games to equals, some missed playoffs even...
OK, it is just a game after all.
KDBG wrote:vryadli wrote:And Neto is waived too...
That was shuffling decision as opposite to fighting decision as humanly possible. Utah just went all way to the Atlanta Wizards land. I had terrible premonitions for 6-7 years of very consistent underachievement. Comfortable losses to each stronger opponent, consisten losing of most important games to equals, some missed playoffs even...
OK, it is just a game after all.
Dude, Tobias may be happening...
KqWIN wrote:Inigo Montoya wrote:babyjax13 wrote:If we don't get a championship this year, DL should be fired. Horrid trade, absolutely horrid.
We're not going to even make the WCF. What's likely to happen is that the rest of the teams who have yet to make their moves, will make them during the draft and free agency, and get better. In the end, we'll still end up as the 4-5 seed again, and will again have a 1st-2nd round exit.
I get that this is a win now move, but I don't jive with the logic that if we don't win a championship it is a failure. If we're holding this move to a standard, then we must also hold the other side of the deal that standard. For example, if the picks and cap space do not eventually lead to a championship, it is also failure.
The sky is always falling in the NBA, but in reality, neither direction actually increases our championship odds on a ton. Conley doesn't make us a championship juggernaut. But late first round picks and $30M in cap space when every max player is off the board also does not make you a championship juggernaut.
GobertReport wrote:KDBG wrote:vryadli wrote:And Neto is waived too...
That was shuffling decision as opposite to fighting decision as humanly possible. Utah just went all way to the Atlanta Wizards land. I had terrible premonitions for 6-7 years of very consistent underachievement. Comfortable losses to each stronger opponent, consisten losing of most important games to equals, some missed playoffs even...
OK, it is just a game after all.
Dude, Tobias may be happening...
Umm links?
Rauxcee wrote:GobertReport wrote:KDBG wrote:Dude, Tobias may be happening...
Umm links?
I think its just speculation. Really no reason to waive Neto unless they are trying to make cap space for something.
I don't think we can make enough for Harris though.
GobertReport wrote:Rauxcee wrote:GobertReport wrote:
Umm links?
I think its just speculation. Really no reason to waive Neto unless they are trying to make cap space for something.
I don't think we can make enough for Harris though.
We have to waive or trade Favs and send Exum into cap.