Pistons Trading for Tony Snell

[DTP]

Maybe because basically everybody that comes to Detroit loses their shot, primarily because when they get to Detroit they don't have near the talent around them thus they don't get near as many open looks.

Tony Snell doesn't really upgrade anything on this team. He's not a better shooter than Kennard, and he's not a better defender than Brown.

Plus this only continues to bury Khyri Thomas.

Tony Snell is a body to put on the floor and not much else, a body that is owed $24 million. There is no upside to having Tony Snell on this roster.

Eye test does agree that Kennard is a better shooter than Snell but the percentages are very, very similar. Milwaukee hasn't always been the power house they are now....Snell has consistently put up those percentages since being acquired by Milwaukee three years ago. You think he won't be able to continue to knock down open shots off the attention from Dre & Blake?

And also you mentioned one thing Kennard & Brown can do but both are very one dimensional, Snell is a two-way player. He's immediately the best two-way wing on the roster. Brown unless he takes a huge step offensively shouldn't be in a NBA rotation. I love Luke...he's my second favorite on the squad outside of Blake, but he's not the defender Snell is. Putting off acquiring talent so that Khyri Thomas can get minutes isn't the direction this team needs to or will go.

Wait did you just imply that Dre is going to open things up for shooters? Plus Giannis/Middleton have always allowed teammates to consistently get open looks.

In my book getting Snell falls way short of "acquiring talent." But thats just me.

When Dre is used correctly, as a rim running big...he does an amazing job of drawing attention inside, leaving shooters open. But lets just agree to disagree here.

[Mojo Amok]

So we bought 30th overall for 14M?

Yep basically. 30th has the the aura of a 1st round pick. In reality, I wonder whether the 31st pick is more valuable because of the no guaranteed contract etc

To be fair, you guys should deduct what you consider Snell to be worth from the $14 million to determine what the actual price of the 30th pick was. It's not so bad if Snell gets actual rotation minutes.

[SVG]

Was kinda salty about the trade because we gave up an expiring(coveted in the league) for another contract that has an additional year. The pick sweetens the deal tho, plus Snell will be expiring next year so we could potentially get more assets for him. Lastly like others have mentioned, he fills a need on the roster not a wasted player on the end of the bench like Leur was.

Look at the bright side, we could have traded for a longer contract than snell's.

[King Bugs]

Tony Snell is a body to put on the floor and not much else, a body that is owed $24 million. There is no upside to having Tony Snell on this roster.

He's a bum. If Donte DiVincenzo wasn't injured for the Bucks, he wouldn't have even been in the rotation. He was barely in the rotation as it was this season. This dude started 59 games in 17-18 and averaged 6.7 points in 29 minutes, he's boo boo, but he's wearing red, white and blue now so...

[thesack12]

Eye test does agree that Kennard is a better shooter than Snell but the percentages are very, very similar. Milwaukee hasn't always been the power house they are now....Snell has consistently put up those percentages since being acquired by Milwaukee three years ago. You think he won't be able to continue to knock down open shots off the attention from Dre & Blake?

And also you mentioned one thing Kennard & Brown can do but both are very one dimensional, Snell is a two-way player. He's immediately the best two-way wing on the roster. Brown unless he takes a huge step offensively shouldn't be in a NBA rotation. I love Luke...he's my second favorite on the squad outside of Blake, but he's not the defender Snell is. Putting off acquiring talent so that Khyri Thomas can get minutes isn't the direction this team needs to or will go.

Wait did you just imply that Dre is going to open things up for shooters? Plus Giannis/Middleton have always allowed teammates to consistently get open looks.

In my book getting Snell falls way short of "acquiring talent." But thats just me.

When Dre is used correctly, as a rim running big...he does an amazing job of drawing attention inside, leaving shooters open. But lets just agree to disagree here.

Yeah, we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. Dre is a glorified garbage man, not one to command a lot of defensive attention with a myriad of post moves with a good penchant for kick outs.

[thesack12]

Tony Snell is a body to put on the floor and not much else, a body that is owed $24 million. There is no upside to having Tony Snell on this roster.

He's a bum. If Donte DiVincenzo wasn't injured for the Bucks, he wouldn't have even been in the rotation. He was barely in the rotation as it was this season. This dude started 59 games in 17-18 and averaged 6.7 points in 29 minutes, he's boo boo, but he's wearing red, white and blue now so...

Exactly, gotta love the inherent homerism every player receives their first few weeks/months after they were brought in.

[GBanga3]

Man we should be stoked we were even able to deal Leuer for anything let alone a first rounder and a player that fits a position of need.

[bstein14]

I'm excited to have another first rounder. Snell is also the type of player we'd likely need to find in FA. He defends and shoots the three ball well. He is 100% a solid rotation player for us unlike Leuer. I think the only way you really hate this trade is if you were set on the idea of us landing an impact player with Leuer's expiring contract or you had the illusion that we'd land some good players in FA next summer. In reality, the small chance that #30 could even be a solid bench player in this league for us is worth the risk of adding this salary.

C:Dre/#15
PF:Blake/Thon
SF:MLE FA/ Snell
SG: Kennard / Brown
PG: Reggie / Ish

#30 Hopefully gets some burn along with Galloway in situational minutes. Galloway could play a larger role for us if Ish leaves.

[DTP]

Wait did you just imply that Dre is going to open things up for shooters? Plus Giannis/Middleton have always allowed teammates to consistently get open looks.

In my book getting Snell falls way short of "acquiring talent." But thats just me.

When Dre is used correctly, as a rim running big...he does an amazing job of drawing attention inside, leaving shooters open. But lets just agree to disagree here.

Yeah, we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. Dre is a glorified garbage man, not one to command a lot of defensive attention with a myriad of post moves with a good penchant for kick outs.

I mean...somewhat agreed. I never mentioned Dre's post moves but there's more to offense then just throwing it in the post for him. When he's put in pick and roll situations and he's running to the rim, guys have to help and it draws attention to the paint. When he gets offensive rebounds, he draws attention in the paint. When used correctly...as in not being allowed to dribble more than 3 times, having to create for himself in the post....he's a problem inside that teams will have to collapse on. Teams collapsed last year....we just didnt have perimeter shooters to take advantage of it.

[the_l_train]

Man we should be stoked we were even able to deal Leuer for anything let alone a first rounder and a player that fits a position of need.

Preach.

This trade waaaaay more about the 30th pick than Tony Snell. At least we have a small forward now...Tomorrow is gonna be nutty.

[thesack12]

People happy and hopeful because Detroit brought in what they thought would be a good 3 & D wing.

Hmm, that sounds eerily familiar. Sounds very Glenn Robinsony.

Except this is worse, Snell is 6x the price.

[thesack12]

When Dre is used correctly, as a rim running big...he does an amazing job of drawing attention inside, leaving shooters open. But lets just agree to disagree here.

Yeah, we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. Dre is a glorified garbage man, not one to command a lot of defensive attention with a myriad of post moves with a good penchant for kick outs.

I mean...somewhat agreed. I never mentioned Dre's post moves but there's more to offense then just throwing it in the post for him. When he's put in pick and roll situations and he's running to the rim, guys have to help and it draws attention to the paint. When he gets offensive rebounds, he draws attention in the paint. When used correctly...as in not being allowed to dribble more than 3 times, having to create for himself in the post....he's a problem inside that teams will have to collapse on. Teams collapsed last year....we just didnt have perimeter shooters to take advantage of it.

Because he doesn't have post moves, he doesn't consistently attract double teams. While Drummond has been here, most if not all incoming players have seen their shot percentages drop. I think that is more than a coincidence, but that's just me.

[440BB]

I'm thinking this is the first of a few moves, at least I'm hoping it is. I won't miss seeing Leuer on the bench or in street clothes. Snell can contribute in the rotation while that pick may help pull off another trade. It's more than I thought we could get for Leuer.

[thesack12]

Man we should be stoked we were even able to deal Leuer for anything let alone a first rounder and a player that fits a position of need.

Preach.

This trade waaaaay more about the 30th pick than Tony Snell. At least we have a small forward now...Tomorrow is gonna be nutty.

The last pick in the 1st round of what is widely viewed as a poor draft. #30 has less value than the first handful of 2nds, simply because of the contractual obligations.

#30 is an asset sure, but its nothing to write home about.

[DETermination]

I like it, get rid of Leuer and get a 1st round pick and a sf. Tomorrow will be very interesting now, I'm looking forward to seeing who we draft.

[DTP]

Yeah, we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. Dre is a glorified garbage man, not one to command a lot of defensive attention with a myriad of post moves with a good penchant for kick outs.

I mean...somewhat agreed. I never mentioned Dre's post moves but there's more to offense then just throwing it in the post for him. When he's put in pick and roll situations and he's running to the rim, guys have to help and it draws attention to the paint. When he gets offensive rebounds, he draws attention in the paint. When used correctly...as in not being allowed to dribble more than 3 times, having to create for himself in the post....he's a problem inside that teams will have to collapse on. Teams collapsed last year....we just didnt have perimeter shooters to take advantage of it.

Because he doesn't have post moves, he doesn't consistently attract double teams. While Drummond has been here, most if not all incoming players have seen their shot percentages drop. I think that is more than a coincidence, but that's just me.

Why do you think that is? It's certainly not because defenders are staying glued to Pistons' perimeter shooters. Guys had open shots all season long and just missed.

[DetroitPistons]

I'm 50/50 on this. I don't like giving up an expiring for this package but at the same time we at least get an okay 3 and D guy at SF, which we desperately need. He will also become an asset after next season when he also becomes an expiring. I will be really happy about this trade if we can get Bazley.

[Snakebites]

Eh. Overpaid useless player and some cap flexibility next year with a bad FA class gone.

Overpaid slightly useful player and a lottery scratcher draft pick in.

It’s not a game changer but if Gores is willing to overpay for a marginal shooter and a draft pick I’m not going to be horribly upset. 2020 wasn’t going to be a year to make a big impact of the FA market and we’ll still have enough flexibility for trades next year.

[Spider156]

This is seriously an incredible trade.

Leuer. The negative contract. For 10m. 10m. Rotting. At the end of the bench. Every year and out. Leuer, the worst contract on the team.

Gets traded to...

Tony Snell. Perimeter defender. 12m, 40% from 3 shooter. The PERIMETER SMALL FORWARD we've been BEGGING for. Comes to Detroit. Having a Detroit attitude, defensive mindset. Shooting 40% from 3....I mean really? Do I really have to prove this is a good trade? I mean really? It makes the Bucks worse. We get.........the 30th pick......plus the worst contract in the NBA goes to......our big rivalry, The Trash....

[El Chivo]

Better have Snell for 2 years than overpaying some supposed 3&D for more years.

I like the trade cause we're not forced to draft for need anymore.

The 30th pick, we'll see.