Random Rumor and General Offseason Discussion Thread

Post #281 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:52 pm

If I recall correctly, 3pm is when they freeze the picks and you have to do the awkward how does it feel to be picked by ____ even though everyone knows you are picked by some other team. Little more than an hour left to get deals done early.

jscott · Post #282 » by **jscott** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:01 pm

Wasabi_Johnson wrote:

Read on Twitter

Sound like Kevin Love music.

Saric + Roco?

Wolves keep 11.

Mich3006 · Post #283 » by **Mich3006** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:05 pm

jscott wrote:
Wasabi_Johnson wrote:

Read on Twitter

Sound like Kevin Love music.

Saric + Roco?

Wolves keep 11.

Wolves would do this IMO.

babyjax13 · Post #284 » by **babyjax13** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:08 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
Wasabi_Johnson wrote:

Read on Twitter

Sound like Kevin Love music.

Bamba, 16 for 4

I love that, what a fun team to watch that could be.

Bamba-Zion-NAW-Holiday-Lonzo

LofJ · Post #285 » by **LofJ** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:10 pm

If the Bulls want Garland enough all they need to do is make Lauri Markkanen available. That offer would trump everyone's unless Myles Turner is on the table.

shrink · Post #286 » by **shrink** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:11 pm

jscott wrote:
Wasabi_Johnson wrote:

Read on Twitter

Sound like Kevin Love music.

Saric + Roco?

Wolves keep 11.

I am not impressed by any pick after 2-3, so I wouldn’t use Covington in a purported flat draft in that range.

I’d do two of #11, Saric or a future protected 1st — I just think that Rosas may be under some pressure to take big swings, and be unwilling to walk away from taking a big gamble in front of impatient Wolves fans.

Draft Day is when picks have the most appeal and fans dream - tomorrow when they are specific players with actual flaws, they look a lot less appealing.

jscott · Post #287 » by **jscott** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:13 pm

shrink wrote:
jscott wrote:
Wasabi_Johnson wrote:

Read on Twitter

Sound like Kevin Love music.

Saric + Roco?

Wolves keep 11.

I am not impressed by any pick after 2-3, so I wouldn’t use Covington in a purported flat draft in that range.

I’d do two of #11, Saric or a future protected 1st — I just think that Rosas may be under some pressure to take big swings, and be unwilling to walk away from taking a big gamble in front of impatient Wolves fans.

I'm with you too. I'd much prefer to keep RoCo. No question. He was a real difference maker for this team last year.

I was just throwing out an idea based on some of these rumors/reports to see what kind of traction it would get.

jayu70 · Post #288 » by **jayu70** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:13 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:
Domejandro wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:
Golden State could be anything in 2024, but I have that as still a great trade for them and very so so for Atlanta.

I actually think it is a terrific trade for Atlanta. Get a long-term minor asset and 1.7MM in exchange for your fifth best pick in the Draft; seems pretty much ideal.

Tweet says 1.3m.

I get that they wanted to push the pick forward, but they basically just got to only push half of its value forward, and took the second half the value in cash.

A pick before 45, I want more future value, even at the cost of less cash. Especially after the GM makes public statements about not selling the 2nds.

His PREFERENCE was not to sell the picks/Try to avoid selling picks.
Listen to what his exact words were regarding selling picks here: minute 14

Read on Twitter

?s=20

kobe_vs_jordan · Post #289 » by **kobe_vs_jordan** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:15 pm

shrink wrote:
jscott wrote:
Wasabi_Johnson wrote:

Read on Twitter

Sound like Kevin Love music.

Saric + Roco?

Wolves keep 11.

I am not impressed by any pick after 2-3, so I wouldn’t use Covington in a purported flat draft in that range.

I’d do two of #11, Saric or a future protected 1st — I just think that Rosas may be under some pressure to take big swings, and be unwilling to walk away from taking a big gamble in front of impatient Wolves fans.

Can't see NO doing a deal without Covington.

If Min wants a PG, there is a big gap between somebody like Garland and Ty Jerome or Carsen Edwards. If Minny doesn't want a PG then it doesn't make much sense to trade up.

kalenclayton · Post #290 » by **kalenclayton** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:15 pm

babyjax13 wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
Wasabi_Johnson wrote:

Read on Twitter

Sound like Kevin Love music.

Bamba, 16 for 4

I love that, what a fun team to watch that could be.

Bamba-Zion-NAW-Holiday-Lonzo

I feel like that team is lacking shot creation, especially with NAW as the pick. I’m going Kevin Porter over him all day if that’s the lineup we are working with. I’d prefer to move the 16th pick for a 2/3 shot creator.

kobe_vs_jordan · Post #291 » by **kobe_vs_jordan** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:17 pm

kalenclayton wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
Bamba, 16 for 4

I love that, what a fun team to watch that could be.

Bamba-Zion-NAW-Holiday-Lonzo

I feel like that team is lacking shot creation, especially with NAW as the pick. I’m going Kevin Porter over him all day if that’s the lineup we are working with. I’d prefer to move the 16th pick for a 2/3 shot creator.

I figure Ingram would be starting over Naw. He's a relative good shot creator. Him and Zion should be able to cover NO's shot creation.

babyjax13 · Post #292 » by **babyjax13** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:19 pm

Wasabi_Johnson wrote:
kalenclayton wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:
I love that, what a fun team to watch that could be.

Bamba-Zion-NAW-Holiday-Lonzo

I feel like that team is lacking shot creation, especially with NAW as the pick. I’m going Kevin Porter over him all day if that’s the lineup we are working with. I’d prefer to move the 16th pick for a 2/3 shot creator.

I figure Ingram would be starting over Naw. He's a relative good shot creator. Him and Zion should be able to cover NO's shot creation.

Completely forgot about Ingram, lol. New Orleans would be pretty set, IMO. New Orleans would have two guys that are very capable of 20ppg (Ingram, Holiday), and one more that could be (Zion) in their starting lineup.

Northern hoops · Post #293 » by **Northern hoops** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:21 pm

shrink wrote:
jscott wrote:
Wasabi_Johnson wrote:

Read on Twitter

Sound like Kevin Love music.

Saric + Roco?

Wolves keep 11.

I am not impressed by any pick after 2-3, so I wouldn’t use Covington in a purported flat draft in that range.

I’d do two of #11, Saric or a future protected 1st — I just think that Rosas may be under some pressure to take big swings, and be unwilling to walk away from taking a big gamble in front of impatient Wolves fans.

Draft Day is when picks have the most appeal and fans dream - tomorrow when they are specific players with actual flaws, they look a lot less appealing.

If Roco/Saric is an option you have to consider rolling with Garland/Okogie/Wiggins/Clarke(?)/Towns and maybe not contending for a playoff spot next year, but having a higher ceiling for when KAT is nearing the end of his deal. Would also give the Wolves more cap flexibility in 2021 when Gorgui's deal is done.

kalenclayton · Post #294 » by **kalenclayton** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:21 pm

babyjax13 wrote:
Wasabi_Johnson wrote:
kalenclayton wrote:I feel like that team is lacking shot creation, especially with NAW as the pick. I’m going Kevin Porter over him all day if that’s the lineup we are working with. I’d prefer to move the 16th pick for a 2/3 shot creator.

I figure Ingram would be starting over Naw. He's a relative good shot creator. Him and Zion should be able to cover NO's shot creation.

Completely forgot about Ingram, lol. New Orleans would be pretty set, IMO. New Orleans would have two guys that are very capable of 20ppg (Ingram, Holiday), and one more that could be (Zion) in their starting lineup.

I agree. I like the potential of the team. I was just disagreeing with the pick, but that’s the minor issue here. I’m not a big believer of NAW being any more than a bench wing though.

jbk1234 · Post #295 » by **jbk1234** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:32 pm

Wasabi_Johnson wrote:

Read on Twitter

Sound like Kevin Love music.

Griffin really likes Love. I'm just not sure what the Cavs would do with Nos. 4 & 5. Hunter is the only guy I have rated as a top 5 prospect after Barrett, Zion, and Ja. Unless the Knicks are prepared to do something crazy at No. 3, or the Hawks want to trade up to No. 5 after the Cavs draft Hunter, the Cavs will be trading themselves into a position where they'll have to reach.

Post #296 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:33 pm

jayu70 wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:
Domejandro wrote:I actually think it is a terrific trade for Atlanta. Get a long-term minor asset and 1.7MM in exchange for your fifth best pick in the Draft; seems pretty much ideal.

Tweet says 1.3m.

I get that they wanted to push the pick forward, but they basically just got to only push half of its value forward, and took the second half the value in cash.

A pick before 45, I want more future value, even at the cost of less cash. Especially after the GM makes public statements about not selling the 2nds.

His PREFERENCE was not to sell the picks/Try to avoid selling picks.
Listen to what his exact words were regarding selling picks here: minute 14

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter
?s=20

Yep, we are in agreement that he said public comments about not doing it.

Post #297 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:35 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
Wasabi_Johnson wrote:

Read on Twitter

Sound like Kevin Love music.

Griffin really likes Love. I'm just not sure what the Cavs would do with Nos. 4 & 5. Hunter is the only guy I have rated as a top 5 prospect after Barrett, Zion, and Ja. Unless the Knicks are prepared to do something crazy at No. 3, or the Hawks want to trade up to No. 5 after the Cavs draft Hunter, the Cavs will be trading themselves into a position where they'll have to reach.

I don't see Love getting 4. I see Love and 5 getting 4 and Solomon Hill's bad deal.

jayu70 · Post #298 » by **jayu70** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:37 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:
jayu70 wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:
Tweet says 1.3m.

I get that they wanted to push the pick forward, but they basically just got to only push half of its value forward, and took the second half the value in cash.

A pick before 45, I want more future value, even at the cost of less cash. Especially after the GM makes public statements about not selling the 2nds.

His PREFERENCE was not to sell the picks/Try to avoid selling picks.
Listen to what his exact words were regarding selling picks here: minute 14

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter
?s=20

Yep, we are in agreement that he said public comments about not doing it.

No.

Post #299 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:39 pm

jayu70 wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:
Yep, we are in agreement that he said public comments about not doing it.

No.

No, we are. He said public comments about it here:

Read on Twitter

Check Minute 14.

jbk1234 · Post #300 » by **jbk1234** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:39 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
Wasabi_Johnson wrote:

Read on Twitter

Sound like Kevin Love music.

Griffin really likes Love. I'm just not sure what the Cavs would do with Nos. 4 & 5. Hunter is the only guy I have rated as a top 5 prospect after Barrett, Zion, and Ja. Unless the Knicks are prepared to do something crazy at No. 3, or the Hawks want to trade up to No. 5 after the Cavs draft Hunter, the Cavs will be trading themselves into a position where they'll have to reach.

I don't see Love getting 4. I see Love and 5 getting 4 and Solomon Hill's bad deal.

And I don't see the Cavs trading Love to move up one slot and eat Hill's deal which may be why Griffin is searching for alternatives. The Bulls were rumored to be open to moving Lauri.