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Re: NBA DRAFT DAY DISCUSSION 

Post#21 » by MoMM » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:18 pm

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here you go, dont want to use the 2nd round pick, could use it on Frank. im not really a believer in him, but this is a low risk move

I'd prefer to have Briscoe for free...
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Re: NBA DRAFT DAY DISCUSSION 

Post#22 » by MagicFan101 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:20 pm

Oh hell yes I would give up #46 for Frank the Tank.

Then draft a wing or PF and target the other with MLE and move on to keeping our free agents ... yes, I have given up on Russell.
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Re: NBA DRAFT DAY DISCUSSION 

Post#23 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:23 pm

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here you go, dont want to use the 2nd round pick, could use it on Frank. im not really a believer in him, but this is a low risk move


Such a Orlando thing to do, but this is extremely buy-low scenario. If we could convert #46 into Frank I think it's a win especially considering Fultz is still a question Mark and we literally have no one backing up Augustine that isnt a FA.


why not take best offensive PG available at 46? We already have enough offensively challenged players on our team why add another?


Because players you're picking at #46 do not have lottery player potential, Frank has his warts but everyone will tell you that NY screwed the pooch with him and didn't use him correctly. He could have hidden potential under a good coach, that coincidentally we have. If Clifford could make Iwundu look like a solid rotation player than I have a lot of hope for what he can do with Frank.
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Re: NBA DRAFT DAY DISCUSSION 

Post#24 » by Blue_and_Whte » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:25 pm

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Such a Orlando thing to do, but this is extremely buy-low scenario. If we could convert #46 into Frank I think it's a win especially considering Fultz is still a question Mark and we literally have no one backing up Augustine that isnt a FA.


why not take best offensive PG available at 46? We already have enough offensively challenged players on our team why add another?


Because players you're picking at #46 do not have lottery player potential, Frank has his warts but everyone will tell you that NY screwed the pooch with him and didn't use him correctly. He could have hidden potential under a good coach, that coincidentally we have. If Clifford could make Iwundu look like a solid rotation player than I have a lot of hope for what he can do with Frank.
That would be a good return on 46.

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Re: NBA DRAFT DAY DISCUSSION 

Post#25 » by thelead » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:28 pm

I’m ready for another big... please prove me wrong Weltman
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Post#26 » by Nyce_1 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:30 pm

thelead wrote:I’m ready for another big... please prove me wrong Weltman
If we get Clarke, that's a good pick. I don't want a big, but I can justify Clarke.
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Re: NBA DRAFT DAY DISCUSSION 

Post#27 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:30 pm

Scoring-oriented wings like Romeo Langford and Nassir Little could be on the board here, but neither one is a great fit with Fultz, or with Orlando's roster in general. As a bigger guard who defends, can make plays for others and will be at his best working off of another perimeter creator, Alexander-Walker's versatility vibes nicely with what they're building.


Very interesting take on Langford/Little vs NAW.
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Re: NBA DRAFT DAY DISCUSSION 

Post#28 » by tiderulz » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:32 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
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here you go, dont want to use the 2nd round pick, could use it on Frank. im not really a believer in him, but this is a low risk move


Such a Orlando thing to do, but this is extremely buy-low scenario. If we could convert #46 into Frank I think it's a win especially considering Fultz is still a question Mark and we literally have no one backing up Augustine that isnt a FA.


why not take best offensive PG available at 46? We already have enough offensively challenged players on our team why add another?

word was that they were going to sell it.
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Re: NBA DRAFT DAY DISCUSSION 

Post#29 » by Nyce_1 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:32 pm

Ntilikina isn't a PG. I'd use him as a 3-D combo guard. Fits well with whomever is running point and bolsters our defense.

I've been clamoring to trade for him. Please please please get it done Jeff. Such a low risk move.
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Re: NBA DRAFT DAY DISCUSSION 

Post#30 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:35 pm

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Such a Orlando thing to do, but this is extremely buy-low scenario. If we could convert #46 into Frank I think it's a win especially considering Fultz is still a question Mark and we literally have no one backing up Augustine that isnt a FA.


why not take best offensive PG available at 46? We already have enough offensively challenged players on our team why add another?

word was that they were going to sell it.


still confused how taking on Ntilikina & his 4.8M cap hit in 19-20 is greater/better idea than drafting a rookie pg on non guaranteed money and seeing if he's worth making the team?
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Re: NBA DRAFT DAY DISCUSSION 

Post#31 » by BDill012 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:36 pm

Thinking #46, I have been reading a lot of the discussion on the board, does anyone have an opinion on Zach Norvell Jr. from Gonzaga in the 2nd round? With the need for shooters/scoring, he could be a decent option. He doesn't have much of a game off the bounce but could provide floor spacing with a second unit.

Any thoughts on Norvell?
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Re: NBA DRAFT DAY DISCUSSION 

Post#32 » by MagicFan101 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:38 pm

Wild and crazy idea here but is there any chance whatsoever that the New York Knicks were not the best run org in the league in recent years?

I know, I know. Crazy talk.

But if that were somehow the case, perhaps Frank can benefit from a reboot?
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Re: NBA DRAFT DAY DISCUSSION 

Post#33 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:47 pm

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Such a Orlando thing to do, but this is extremely buy-low scenario. If we could convert #46 into Frank I think it's a win especially considering Fultz is still a question Mark and we literally have no one backing up Augustine that isnt a FA.


why not take best offensive PG available at 46? We already have enough offensively challenged players on our team why add another?


Because players you're picking at #46 do not have lottery player potential, Frank has his warts but everyone will tell you that NY screwed the pooch with him and didn't use him correctly. He could have hidden potential under a good coach, that coincidentally we have. If Clifford could make Iwundu look like a solid rotation player than I have a lot of hope for what he can do with Frank.


Frank has as much lottery projected potential as 46 pick right now. Heck Iwundu has more lottery player potential that Frank.
Ya'll need to stop valuing these guys where they were drafted 2 years ago and look at how they're playing in the NBA now. Frank is a solid defender with + wingspan but a HUGE negative on the offensive side. 33%FG 28% from 3 39%EFG but oh man he has huge wingspan and was drafted 8th 2 draft's ago ROFL

there's a reason we gave away EP for a 2nd and there's a reason NY is giving him away for a 2nd. They're not NBA starters and worth keeping.
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Re: NBA DRAFT DAY DISCUSSION 

Post#34 » by ezzzp » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:47 pm

The Stepien's Team Centric Boards


Talen Horton Tucker- Orlando loves long wingspans, so maybe they’ll actually consider THT here(I doubt it). Putting him on a team like Orlando who needs players to put pressure on the rim would be a lot of fun. Like I said, I’d imagine Orlando goes with Herro, Langford or Keldon Johnson, but I think THT is a better prospect than all three and they should strongly consider him.

Tyler Herro- I think Herro has some upside as a decent lead guard, although I’m not sure how realistic it is, but he would immediately bring valuable shooting to Orlando. In my opinion, the best shooting prospect in the draft, but he will need to improve his handle and range. He struggled getting to the rim in halfcourt, but he has some solid skill in the mid-range combined with an elite pull-up jumper.

Kevin Porter Jr- Orlando desperately needs a dynamic perimeter player so I think swinging for the upside of KPJ would make sense. They’re decently talented with some young pieces, but they look like a team that will be fighting for the 6-10 seeds in the east every year, which is why upside players should matter a lot to them.

Favorite 2nd Round Targets: Shamorie Ponds, Justin Robinson, Cody Martin, Tremont Waters.
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Re: NBA DRAFT DAY DISCUSSION 

Post#35 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:52 pm

ezzzp wrote:The Stepien's Team Centric Boards


Talen Horton Tucker- Orlando loves long wingspans, so maybe they’ll actually consider THT here(I doubt it). Putting him on a team like Orlando who needs players to put pressure on the rim would be a lot of fun. Like I said, I’d imagine Orlando goes with Herro, Langford or Keldon Johnson, but I think THT is a better prospect than all three and they should strongly consider him.

Tyler Herro- I think Herro has some upside as a decent lead guard, although I’m not sure how realistic it is, but he would immediately bring valuable shooting to Orlando. In my opinion, the best shooting prospect in the draft, but he will need to improve his handle and range. He struggled getting to the rim in halfcourt, but he has some solid skill in the mid-range combined with an elite pull-up jumper.

Kevin Porter Jr- Orlando desperately needs a dynamic perimeter player so I think swinging for the upside of KPJ would make sense. They’re decently talented with some young pieces, but they look like a team that will be fighting for the 6-10 seeds in the east every year, which is why upside players should matter a lot to them.

Favorite 2nd Round Targets: Shamorie Ponds, Justin Robinson, Cody Martin, Tremont Waters.


Porter Jr Herro anyone else and then THT
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Re: NBA DRAFT DAY DISCUSSION 

Post#36 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:53 pm

Serious Question - would you guys be okay with a Fournier/#16 trade for JR Smith/#26 if it put us in a real position to sign Russell?
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Re: NBA DRAFT DAY DISCUSSION 

Post#37 » by orthoman » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:57 pm

Tacko Fall will be a beast, a mammoth monster in the paint...give him a year or two. He has a big upper body already. :o

When he's in the game, the momentum shifts drastically...I saw it all year at his UCF games. Opposing players freak out when they shoot and are intimidated by his giant presence.

Some former NBA players have said he should be the #1 pick in the draft.

Please, Orlando, don't wait on him with the second round pick...he'll be gone.

Won't see another player like him for 20 years. :nod:
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Re: NBA DRAFT DAY DISCUSSION 

Post#38 » by Nyce_1 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:09 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:Serious Question - would you guys be okay with a Fournier/#16 trade for JR Smith/#26 if it put us in a real position to sign Russell?

if there's a legit shot to capitalize on the cap space, yes. if there's only a chance, don't think so.
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Post#39 » by Howard Mass » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:10 pm

Jon Givony has changed his Mock Draft Pick at #16 from NAW to Romeo Langford.
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Post#40 » by MagicFan101 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:16 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:Serious Question - would you guys be okay with a Fournier/#16 trade for JR Smith/#26 if it put us in a real position to sign Russell?


If we hand a handshake agreement that Russell is a Magician following this deal then absolutely.

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