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Pistons Trading for Tony Snell

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Re: Pistons Trading for Tony Snell 

Post#201 » by Kilo » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:03 pm

bstein14 wrote:Maybe we are flipping Snell right away to the Clippers so they can use him to recruit Kawhi. Looks like Gallinari is getting traded today.


He makes way too much money. And I don't want to help out "The Logo" after all the crap we ate about how he killed us on the Griffin deal. If West strikes out now - how about his genius then?
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Re: Pistons Trading for Tony Snell 

Post#202 » by Neptune » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:04 pm

CubicalLake7 wrote:
Neptune wrote:Well TJ Warren was traded for absolutely nothing. A perfect player for our team. Shoots 3's at a high percentage, plays decent defense. Cap space means nothing to the Suns because nobody in free agency will go there. Plus we could have sweeten the deal by offering the 15 pick.

Now what is there to say about our GM? He's great for adding Snell, right?


The Pistons did not have the cap space to absorb Warren and the Suns were not taking back salary. It really is not rocket science.

It's also not rocket science to understand that would also save money in the long run by offering an expiring contract+15th pick.
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Re: Pistons Trading for Tony Snell 

Post#203 » by DBC10 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:05 pm

Sun gave away a pick to give TJ Warren for free...

Wow that organization is bad. Booker will be on the outs soon.
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Re: Pistons Trading for Tony Snell 

Post#204 » by mattao313 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:06 pm

DBC10 wrote:Sun gave away a pick to give TJ Warren for free...

Wow that organization is bad. Booker will be on the outs soon.

Maybe Warren is just that bad.
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Re: Pistons Trading for Tony Snell 

Post#205 » by Snakebites » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:07 pm

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CubicalLake7 wrote:
Neptune wrote:Well TJ Warren was traded for absolutely nothing. A perfect player for our team. Shoots 3's at a high percentage, plays decent defense. Cap space means nothing to the Suns because nobody in free agency will go there. Plus we could have sweeten the deal by offering the 15 pick.

Now what is there to say about our GM? He's great for adding Snell, right?


The Pistons did not have the cap space to absorb Warren and the Suns were not taking back salary. It really is not rocket science.

It's also not rocket science to understand that would also save money in the long run by offering an expiring contract+15th pick.

Long term savings are one thing. Cap room right now in this offseason is another. You can say it means nothing but clearly Phoenix doesn’t feel that way.
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Re: Pistons Trading for Tony Snell 

Post#206 » by Manocad » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:10 pm

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Looking at the last 11 years, the people that fit into that category have been right WAY more than they've been wrong. Maybe it's time to put some respect on their basketball knowledge and stop trying to vilify the Piston fans that aren't blind homers since they seem to be the only ones that know what they're talking about.

Ding ding ding. Winner winner

And there it is. It is 100% undeniable that if you, as a fan, crapped on every move the Pistons have made for the last decade plus, you’d have been right FAR more than wrong. And that makes you a bad fan or bad person?



No, it makes you **** annoying. How many more ways are you and the other crybabies going to inform us of how much you think this team sucks, how every move is trash and how everyone is garbage?

I've never said this team sucks, only that they're not close to competing for a championship as currently constructed. Certainly I've been very critical of the moves the organization has made as have many others. Don't like it? Too bad.
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Re: Pistons Trading for Tony Snell 

Post#207 » by CubicalLake7 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:10 pm

Snakebites wrote:
Neptune wrote:
CubicalLake7 wrote:
The Pistons did not have the cap space to absorb Warren and the Suns were not taking back salary. It really is not rocket science.

It's also not rocket science to understand that would also save money in the long run by offering an expiring contract+15th pick.

Long term savings are one thing. Cap room right now in this offseason is another.


I did not realize an expiring contract was the equivalent to cap space for free agency. Thankfully Neptune was there to explain that to me.
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Re: Pistons Trading for Tony Snell 

Post#208 » by DBC10 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:13 pm

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DBC10 wrote:Sun gave away a pick to give TJ Warren for free...

Wow that organization is bad. Booker will be on the outs soon.

Maybe Warren is just that bad.


He's still a solid shooter and was reasonably efficient in terms of TS%. I'm surprised they had to throw a pick in there. That's a bit impulsive.
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Re: Pistons Trading for Tony Snell 

Post#209 » by Phobo_Phile » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:16 pm

I guess this move is OKAY, but I probably would have preferred to leave the door open for the rest of the season to trade our expirings for something.
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Post#210 » by Neptune » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:18 pm

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Neptune wrote:It's also not rocket science to understand that would also save money in the long run by offering an expiring contract+15th pick.

Long term savings are one thing. Cap room right now in this offseason is another.


I did not realize an expiring contract was the equivalent to cap space for free agency. Thankfully Neptune was there to explain that to me.

Ok, thanks for reading my previous post scholar. I thought I talked about the Suns not being a likable destination for players. Maybe for you this is rocket science. Just maybe :dontknow:
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Re: Pistons Trading for Tony Snell 

Post#211 » by bstein14 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:19 pm

I would have preferred Warren and #32 but over Snell but that wouldn't have been an option because we didn't have capspace and they wouldn't want Leuer back. Snell and the pick is decent for us because we aren't a FA destination.
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Re: Pistons Trading for Tony Snell 

Post#212 » by Snakebites » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:20 pm

Neptune wrote:
CubicalLake7 wrote:
Snakebites wrote:Long term savings are one thing. Cap room right now in this offseason is another.


I did not realize an expiring contract was the equivalent to cap space for free agency. Thankfully Neptune was there to explain that to me.

Ok, thanks for reading my previous post scholar. I thought I talked about the Suns not being a likable destination for players. Maybe for you this is rocket science. Just maybe

Again, you can say Phoenix is wasting their time pursuing cap space, it is still clear they’re valuing immediate cap space and acting accordingly.
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Re: Pistons Trading for Tony Snell 

Post#213 » by Neptune » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:26 pm

Snakebites wrote:
Neptune wrote:
CubicalLake7 wrote:
I did not realize an expiring contract was the equivalent to cap space for free agency. Thankfully Neptune was there to explain that to me.

Ok, thanks for reading my previous post scholar. I thought I talked about the Suns not being a likable destination for players. Maybe for you this is rocket science. Just maybe

Again, you can say Phoenix is wasting their time pursuing cap space, it is still clear they’re valuing immediate cap space and acting accordingly.

That's true Snake. I just dont believe the Suns would have turned down turned Leuer+15 for Warren. I dont even think our GM even attempted to sway there decision. But hey, maybe I'm wrong.
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Post#214 » by Billl » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:50 pm

Just counting names here to compare against the people who lose their minds when we pass on their favorite guy at 30.
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Re: Pistons Trading for Tony Snell 

Post#215 » by Han Solo » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:53 am

When is the last time we had two first round picks? Snell will be useful for us. He got that big deal because he looked like he was an up and comer and then lost his rotation spot the next year. I’m pretty happy with this. Maybe we get lucky at 15 and 30 and this is a start to a good team build. Because the guys we draft at 15 and 30 won’t be sitting the bench. They will likely contribute because we need them to. Not drafted to sit behind someone.
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Re: Pistons Trading for Tony Snell 

Post#216 » by thesack12 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:18 am

thesack12 wrote:If Detroit drafts a wing @ 15, I'm going to be interested to see how long it takes until the masses start griping that Snell is blocking the development of that prospect.


Love the Doumbouya pick. He's a tweener forward, so I'm gonna set the over/under of the outcry that Snell is hindering Sekou's development at 35 games.
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Re: Pistons Trading for Tony Snell 

Post#217 » by JD43320 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:27 am

Han Solo wrote:When is the last time we had two first round picks?


I think 07 when we got Stuckey and Afflalo
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Re: Pistons Trading for Tony Snell 

Post#218 » by SD2042 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:22 am

Snakebites wrote:
Neptune wrote:
CubicalLake7 wrote:
I did not realize an expiring contract was the equivalent to cap space for free agency. Thankfully Neptune was there to explain that to me.

Ok, thanks for reading my previous post scholar. I thought I talked about the Suns not being a likable destination for players. Maybe for you this is rocket science. Just maybe

Again, you can say Phoenix is wasting their time pursuing cap space, it is still clear they’re valuing immediate cap space and acting accordingly.



The Suns are looking to go after somebody in FA, preferably a PG this off season.
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Re: Pistons Trading for Tony Snell 

Post#219 » by Neptune » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:28 am

SD2042 wrote:
Snakebites wrote:
Neptune wrote:Ok, thanks for reading my previous post scholar. I thought I talked about the Suns not being a likable destination for players. Maybe for you this is rocket science. Just maybe

Again, you can say Phoenix is wasting their time pursuing cap space, it is still clear they’re valuing immediate cap space and acting accordingly.



The Suns are looking to go after somebody in FA, preferably a PG this off season.

I thought Tyler Johnson was there new PG?
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Re: Pistons Trading for Tony Snell 

Post#220 » by CubicalLake7 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:29 am

Sekou, Keldon Johnson (if he lasts) and Snell is so much better than TJ Warren.

Just saying!!!

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