reload141 wrote:Is it safe to return here yet?
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reload141 wrote:Is it safe to return here yet?
GrandTheftRondo wrote:They just aren’t likely to be good enough to make a title contender.
I was pretty high on Brown up until last season. Athletic, could shoot, defend and still young. But he came back the exact same player showing the same glaring flaws. He can’t handle the ball all that well and he isn’t a playmaker by any stretch of the imagination. That’s not to say he can’t be a good player, it just says he’s probably not going to be a lead guy.
Unfortunately I think the same can now be said about Tatum but he is a bit younger so perhaps a bit more time needs to be afforded. But like Brown his playmaking ability leaves a lot to be desired. Unlike Brown he isn’t as athletic and I saw throughout last season clear evidence that his lesser athleticism is an issue. He has trouble blowing by defenders unless he has a clear mismatch. This doesn’t bode well at all if you want this guy to be a lead scorer.
Both will be in the league for a while but I have a hard time believing they’ll ever win anything without a genuine top 5 player joining the team. Very unlikely either of them even become top 10 players.
Green89 wrote:No idea how this will affect Brown. He knows it was Tatum that held up the deal and Danny was more than willing to ship him to NO. Could be some bitterness.
darylbe wrote:Curious-- prospect/pick wise, what would you need to trade jaylen brown?
Side note. I want him to play here. I'm all aboard the kidz playing and get assets.
He's fast, strong, pretty good defense, good slasher, OK 3s, a good leader, has played well in post season... But I think there are plenty of players like that (minus post season) , or thay can develop into him, fairly easily.
2 1st rounders. If I was confident I could get a quality pg passer with good defense, then another future first rounder, I'd jump on it. Is court vision and passing something thay can be learned? I don't think so.
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reload141 wrote:Is it safe to return here yet?
darylbe wrote:Curious-- prospect/pick wise, what would you need to trade jaylen brown?
Side note. I want him to play here. I'm all aboard the kidz playing and get assets.
He's fast, strong, pretty good defense, good slasher, OK 3s, a good leader, has played well in post season... But I think there are plenty of players like that (minus post season) , or thay can develop into him, fairly easily.
2 1st rounders. If I was confident I could get a quality pg passer with good defense, then another future first rounder, I'd jump on it. Is court vision and passing something thay can be learned? I don't think so.
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BostonCouchGM wrote:darylbe wrote:Curious-- prospect/pick wise, what would you need to trade jaylen brown?
Side note. I want him to play here. I'm all aboard the kidz playing and get assets.
He's fast, strong, pretty good defense, good slasher, OK 3s, a good leader, has played well in post season... But I think there are plenty of players like that (minus post season) , or thay can develop into him, fairly easily.
2 1st rounders. If I was confident I could get a quality pg passer with good defense, then another future first rounder, I'd jump on it. Is court vision and passing something thay can be learned? I don't think so.
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depending on who is still on the board, I'd likely take as low as a late lottery pick in this weaker draft for him. I see nothing to like when watching him. He is at best a 3 and D player and those are dime a dozen. He's not a good defender. He will never be a playmaker. He has tunnel vision with the ball and that's when he's not struggling to dribble it or fumbling it away. He's a streaky inconstant shooter. I really don't understand the appeal. He's about to get paid by someone who has an awful scout that talked him into it and it would set us back half a decade should Danny match it. You can't pay your 5th or 6th best player top 2 or 3 money. You just can't.
OBisHalJordan wrote:I think the Brown is going to better than Tatum. He seems to have the intelligence and drive. He also seems to have something of the attitude of the 2008-2014 teams. As far as I am concerned, Smart and and Brown are the most important for building the type of culture necessary to have a home grown champion
You would like. Thats itRed2 wrote:there's too much smoke around the C's for there not to be a fire. i really feel like danny is going to trade brown today to move up to the 4 pick where he'll pick garland. either than or he will try to trade brown and picks to the wizards for beal. As much as I think we should build around the young guys and the draft, danny isn't that patient and his history suggests he's going to make a big move. trading brown also increases the chances of getting kyrie back. Kyrie and beal would be a hell of a back court and who knows maybe horford changes his mind then. If reports are true and brown and kyrie clashed then removing brown may help retain kyrie. don't get me wrong- I don't necessarily want Kyrie back but he's the best asset we have. it also makes sense financially I think but I' m no cap expert so will leave it to others. if we trade brown to move up and take garland then maybe we flip that pick to houston for capela. maybe that's the plan as well. either way I feel there's a good chance brown gets moved today
Tiny ball wrote:He should be recovered by start of season.
Tiny ball wrote:He should be recovered by start of season.
PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.