2019 NBA Draft

snoopdogg88 · Post #1361 » by **snoopdogg88** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:45 pm

What exactly is the logic behind “promising” a player that you’ll take him in the draft?

Because you don’t want a team above you to work him out and pick him? But what incentive is that for the player. He should want to go as high as possible.

LloydFree · Post #1362 » by **LloydFree** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:45 pm

Kolkmania wrote:
LloydFree wrote:I don't know that I've ever seen a draft that had as many confusing moves. Not just the 76ers. I'm dumbfounded by nearly everyone except Cleveland, Atlanta and the Clippers.

Thought that NOP had an excellent draft as well. Making the correct call to trade back and get two promising prospects (not sure I like Hayes that much), get a draft and stash guy and select Smailagic two picks earlier than GSW's obtained pick (forcing them to trade another two 2nd rounders to get him).

I didn't like the Jaxon Hayes pick. Too high for a Rim runner. You can get that later, in any draft and I don't like the fit with Zion.

smittybanton · Post #1363 » by **smittybanton** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:51 pm

still waitin on news of shamorie ponds

Negrodamus · Post #1364 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:52 pm

smittybanton wrote:still waitin on news of shamorie ponds

Houston got him.

Mik317 · Post #1365 » by **Mik317** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:53 pm

smittybanton wrote:still waitin on news of shamorie ponds

Rockets

Negrodamus · Post #1366 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:54 pm

Read on Twitter

We probably offered him a 2-way and he scoffed.

Negrodamus · Post #1367 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:57 pm

Kolkmania wrote:
LloydFree wrote:I don't know that I've ever seen a draft that had as many confusing moves. Not just the 76ers. I'm dumbfounded by nearly everyone except Cleveland, Atlanta and the Clippers.

Thought that NOP had an excellent draft as well. Making the correct call to trade back and get two promising prospects (not sure I like Hayes that much), get a draft and stash guy and select Smailagic two picks earlier than GSW's obtained pick (forcing them to trade another two 2nd rounders to get him).

NOP annihilated the draft. Obviously Zion is great, Jaxson has upside as a shooter with WCS type mobility, and NAW is the sleeper of the draft. Their future is incredibly bright.

LloydFree · Post #1368 » by **LloydFree** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:02 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
Kolkmania wrote:
LloydFree wrote:I don't know that I've ever seen a draft that had as many confusing moves. Not just the 76ers. I'm dumbfounded by nearly everyone except Cleveland, Atlanta and the Clippers.

Thought that NOP had an excellent draft as well. Making the correct call to trade back and get two promising prospects (not sure I like Hayes that much), get a draft and stash guy and select Smailagic two picks earlier than GSW's obtained pick (forcing them to trade another two 2nd rounders to get him).

NOP annihilated the draft. Obviously Zion is great, Jaxson has upside as a shooter with WCS type mobility, and NAW is the sleeper of the draft. Their future is incredibly bright.

Ehh. I'd rather have Darius Garland at #4, than both of those guys.

Negrodamus · Post #1369 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:04 pm

LloydFree wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
Kolkmania wrote:
Thought that NOP had an excellent draft as well. Making the correct call to trade back and get two promising prospects (not sure I like Hayes that much), get a draft and stash guy and select Smailagic two picks earlier than GSW's obtained pick (forcing them to trade another two 2nd rounders to get him).

NOP annihilated the draft. Obviously Zion is great, Jaxson has upside as a shooter with WCS type mobility, and NAW is the sleeper of the draft. Their future is incredibly bright.

Ehh. I'd rather have Darius Garland at #4, than both of those guys.

I think they're pretty committed to Jrue at this point. They also have Lonzo. I think a certain amount of drafting for fit came into play for them.

Negrodamus · Post #1370 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:15 pm

Hey, at least we were involved in one of the coolest videos of the night:

Read on Twitter

Skates · Post #1371 » by **Skates** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:18 pm

Sounds like a lot of guys weren’t drafted because they wouldn’t accept two way deals and my guess is that we were one of those teams making those demands that they do. Hated what we did in this draft and UDFA looks equally boneheaded

Negrodamus · Post #1372 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:26 pm

Skates wrote:Sounds like a lot of guys weren’t drafted because they wouldn’t accept two way deals and my guess is that we were one of those teams making those demands that they do. Hated what we did in this draft and UDFA looks equally boneheaded

That definitely seems the case, which sucks. I would have drafted a few guys in the first (thus giving them a guaranteed contract) that fell out of the draft.

LloydFree · Post #1373 » by **LloydFree** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:31 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
Skates wrote:Sounds like a lot of guys weren’t drafted because they wouldn’t accept two way deals and my guess is that we were one of those teams making those demands that they do. Hated what we did in this draft and UDFA looks equally boneheaded

That definitely seems the case, which sucks. I would have drafted a few guys in the first (thus giving them a guaranteed contract) that fell out of the draft.

I thought they may have done the opposite. Trade the 1st round pick for a future pick to save the Caphold. Then use the 2 early 2nds to get players that wouldn't count against the cap.

Post #1374 » by **Sixerscan** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:35 pm

LloydFree wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
Skates wrote:Sounds like a lot of guys weren’t drafted because they wouldn’t accept two way deals and my guess is that we were one of those teams making those demands that they do. Hated what we did in this draft and UDFA looks equally boneheaded

That definitely seems the case, which sucks. I would have drafted a few guys in the first (thus giving them a guaranteed contract) that fell out of the draft.

I thought they may have done the opposite. Trade the 1st round pick for a future pick to save the Caphold. Then use the 2 early 2nds to get players that wouldn't count against the cap.

But if you’re over the cap they would count against the mid level though assuming you want to sign them to longer deals. They’re probably already doing that with Shake, would dry up pretty quickly.

Eyeamok · Post #1375 » by **Eyeamok** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:49 pm

I'm on page 38 of the draft thread so far. We just picked Matisse and he is not a board favorite.

Danny Ainge is like the mother in the movie Get Out. Every time he taps the teacup with the spoon (calls on the phone) the 76ers fall asleep at the wheel and go to the sunken place. :lol:

phillynative · Post #1376 » by **phillynative** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:56 pm

Eyeamok wrote:I'm on page 38 of the draft thread so far. We just picked Matisse and he is not a board favorite.

Danny Ainge is like the mother in the movie Get Out. Every time he taps the teacup with the spoon (calls on the phone) the 76ers fall asleep at the wheel and go to the sunken place.

Me too. The Sixers are **** pathetic @ drafting . Another womp womp. How do you have 5 draft picks and only come away with Matisse.

LloydFree · Post #1377 » by **LloydFree** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:58 pm

Sixerscan wrote:
LloydFree wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
That definitely seems the case, which sucks. I would have drafted a few guys in the first (thus giving them a guaranteed contract) that fell out of the draft.

I thought they may have done the opposite. Trade the 1st round pick for a future pick to save the Caphold. Then use the 2 early 2nds to get players that wouldn't count against the cap.

But if you’re over the cap they would count against the mid level though assuming you want to sign them to longer deals. They’re probably already doing that with Shake, would dry up pretty quickly.

But they aren't over the cap. They are under the cap until they start maxing out these guys and if one of them (Jimmy-Tobias) up and leaves they have that money available to sign other free-agents.

Post #1378 » by **Sixerscan** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:25 pm

LloydFree wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:
LloydFree wrote:I thought they may have done the opposite. Trade the 1st round pick for a future pick to save the Caphold. Then use the 2 early 2nds to get players that wouldn't count against the cap.

But if you’re over the cap they would count against the mid level though assuming you want to sign them to longer deals. They’re probably already doing that with Shake, would dry up pretty quickly.

But they aren't over the cap. They are under the cap until they start maxing out these guys and if one of them (Jimmy-Tobias) up and leaves they have that money available to sign other free-agents.

I thought your point was they don’t have a cap hold? If your plan is to sign other free agents with the cap space, then sign the 2nds (going over the cap) you’re running into the same issue. It’s why they had to trade Holmes last year so they would have cap space to sign Bolden.

Mik317 · Post #1379 » by **Mik317** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:47 pm

Tobias' bro will be on our summer league squad lol.

probably a sign that Tobi is a priority

Post #1380 » by **BullyKing** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:53 pm

Sixerscan wrote:
LloydFree wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:
But if you’re over the cap they would count against the mid level though assuming you want to sign them to longer deals. They’re probably already doing that with Shake, would dry up pretty quickly.

But they aren't over the cap. They are under the cap until they start maxing out these guys and if one of them (Jimmy-Tobias) up and leaves they have that money available to sign other free-agents.

I thought your point was they don’t have a cap hold? If your plan is to sign other free agents with the cap space, then sign the 2nds (going over the cap) you’re running into the same issue. It’s why they had to trade Holmes last year so they would have cap space to sign Bolden.

It's still cheap labor for two years. We're going to have a ton of minimum roster holds that equal out to a 2nd rounder's first year salary. I still don't understand why a Terence Davis on a two year deal is not a better use of resources when it doesn't impact our space at all. Especially since we can't even afford veteran minimums at all of these extra spots.