ImageImageImageImage

Chuma Okeke drafted #16 by the Orlando Magic

Moderators: Def Swami, Howard Mass, ChosenSavior, UCF, Knightro, UCFJayBird

User avatar
VFX
RealGM
Posts: 18,620
And1: 16,404
Joined: May 30, 2016

Re: Chuma Okeke drafted #16 by the Orlando Magic 

Post#181 » by VFX » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:58 pm

jayrehme wrote:
J the Drafter wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
Okeke won’t be playing sg. He’s a F, so he plays the same positionally as Isaac and AG.

:-? And why won’t Okeke be playing power forward while AG and JI man the wings, besides Fournier be too good to Bench?


I can see a small ball lineup of AG/Okeke/Isaac at F/F/C being successful in stints as well.


No.
Bakomagic
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,673
And1: 1,018
Joined: Feb 24, 2009

Re: Chuma Okeke drafted #16 by the Orlando Magic 

Post#182 » by Bakomagic » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:00 pm

MagicMatic wrote:
Bakomagic wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
Yes, thank you for cut and pasting Okekes draft bio.

The back court hasn’t been addressed. Not upset by the pick, but a back court of DJ/Fournier is probably the worst in the league and NAW would have had the opportunity more than a backup F.


Sarcasm ? I just pasted the Bio because it reads similar to what NAW brings to the table. either way are we sure NAW isnt just going to back up Ross and Fournier ?

I've had my fair share of negative Fournier posts here in the last year, but most of it is tied to performance related to salary. If we are talking strictly ability, i'm not sure NAW is ever better than Ross and Fournier and hes definitely not going to be better in his first couple of years.

If you are thinking of him handling ball handling/playmaking duties as the back up point. I also disagree that he is better than DJ next year and he wont be better than a healthy Fultz. I know a healthy Fultz is not easy to see right now but the only way to see if he can reach his potential is to give him minutes, which will obviously conflict with NAW getting playing time.

On the other side Okeke is more likely to be better (thus earning more minutes and a bigger role) than Jerell Martin and Iwundu now (when healthy) and in the future imo.


Playmaking is what Orlando lacks. Yes, Orlando could use a backup F in place of Jerrell Martin. They also could have addressed the severe lack of playmaking and back court depth with this pick and decided not to. That’s it.


I can respect that.
jayrehme
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,707
And1: 508
Joined: Feb 15, 2006
Location: Fort Myers, FL
 

Re: Chuma Okeke drafted #16 by the Orlando Magic 

Post#183 » by jayrehme » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:02 pm

MagicMatic wrote:
Bakomagic wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
Yes, thank you for cut and pasting Okekes draft bio.

The back court hasn’t been addressed. Not upset by the pick, but a back court of DJ/Fournier is probably the worst in the league and NAW would have had the opportunity more than a backup F.


Sarcasm ? I just pasted the Bio because it reads similar to what NAW brings to the table. either way are we sure NAW isnt just going to back up Ross and Fournier ?

I've had my fair share of negative Fournier posts here in the last year, but most of it is tied to performance related to salary. If we are talking strictly ability, i'm not sure NAW is ever better than Ross and Fournier and hes definitely not going to be better in his first couple of years.

If you are thinking of him handling ball handling/playmaking duties as the back up point. I also disagree that he is better than DJ next year and he wont be better than a healthy Fultz. I know a healthy Fultz is not easy to see right now but the only way to see if he can reach his potential is to give him minutes, which will obviously conflict with NAW getting playing time.

On the other side Okeke is more likely to be better (thus earning more minutes and a bigger role) than Jerell Martin and Iwundu now (when healthy) and in the future imo.


Playmaking is what Orlando lacks. Yes, Orlando could use a backup F in place of Jerrell Martin. They also could have addressed the severe lack of playmaking and back court depth with this pick and decided not to. That’s it.


That wasn't available at #16 in the draft. Free Agency hasn't started yet either.
User avatar
MartinsIzAfraud
Head Coach
Posts: 6,463
And1: 4,854
Joined: Mar 07, 2017
Location: Work
   

Re: Chuma Okeke drafted #16 by the Orlando Magic 

Post#184 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:05 pm

MagicMatic wrote:
Bakomagic wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
Yes, thank you for cut and pasting Okekes draft bio.

The back court hasn’t been addressed. Not upset by the pick, but a back court of DJ/Fournier is probably the worst in the league and NAW would have had the opportunity more than a backup F.


Sarcasm ? I just pasted the Bio because it reads similar to what NAW brings to the table. either way are we sure NAW isnt just going to back up Ross and Fournier ?

I've had my fair share of negative Fournier posts here in the last year, but most of it is tied to performance related to salary. If we are talking strictly ability, i'm not sure NAW is ever better than Ross and Fournier and hes definitely not going to be better in his first couple of years.

If you are thinking of him handling ball handling/playmaking duties as the back up point. I also disagree that he is better than DJ next year and he wont be better than a healthy Fultz. I know a healthy Fultz is not easy to see right now but the only way to see if he can reach his potential is to give him minutes, which will obviously conflict with NAW getting playing time.

On the other side Okeke is more likely to be better (thus earning more minutes and a bigger role) than Jerell Martin and Iwundu now (when healthy) and in the future imo.


Playmaking is what Orlando lacks. Yes, Orlando could use a backup F in place of Jerrell Martin. They also could have addressed the severe lack of playmaking and back court depth with this pick and decided not to. That’s it.


We didn't really even address the backup 4 spot..... the dude won't play 19-20 until maybe February so we will likely need to grab a backup 4 for this year :lol: :lol:

So when we re sign Vuc n TRoss and have the 9.8M MLE to use well have to grab 2 players. a backup 4 and a Guard. Perfect so we’ll get more Briscoe MCW 10 day contract dudes on guaranteed money !!! :banghead: :banghead:
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
User avatar
Knightro
Forum Mod - Magic
Forum Mod - Magic
Posts: 28,691
And1: 29,756
Joined: Dec 18, 2010
Location: Jersey
 

Re: Chuma Okeke drafted #16 by the Orlando Magic 

Post#185 » by Knightro » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:20 pm

Read on Twitter
Orlandos_Finest
Freshman
Posts: 66
And1: 26
Joined: Feb 16, 2016

Re: Chuma Okeke drafted #16 by the Orlando Magic 

Post#186 » by Orlandos_Finest » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:27 pm

I admit I was disappointed when his name was called, as he is currently injured and I had never heard of him, but after doing some research, I'm feeling better about it. He has a lot of talent (finally a shooter!) and I like how Weltman and Hammond have drafted. Though it does make me wonder how much longer AG will be here. Seems like a starting 5 of Bamba, Okeke, Isaac, Fultz, and potentially DLo is the Magic's future. I'm not even sure they resign Vucevic unless its for a bargain.

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
User avatar
VFX
RealGM
Posts: 18,620
And1: 16,404
Joined: May 30, 2016

Re: Chuma Okeke drafted #16 by the Orlando Magic 

Post#187 » by VFX » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:28 pm

jayrehme wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
Bakomagic wrote:
Sarcasm ? I just pasted the Bio because it reads similar to what NAW brings to the table. either way are we sure NAW isnt just going to back up Ross and Fournier ?

I've had my fair share of negative Fournier posts here in the last year, but most of it is tied to performance related to salary. If we are talking strictly ability, i'm not sure NAW is ever better than Ross and Fournier and hes definitely not going to be better in his first couple of years.

If you are thinking of him handling ball handling/playmaking duties as the back up point. I also disagree that he is better than DJ next year and he wont be better than a healthy Fultz. I know a healthy Fultz is not easy to see right now but the only way to see if he can reach his potential is to give him minutes, which will obviously conflict with NAW getting playing time.

On the other side Okeke is more likely to be better (thus earning more minutes and a bigger role) than Jerell Martin and Iwundu now (when healthy) and in the future imo.


Playmaking is what Orlando lacks. Yes, Orlando could use a backup F in place of Jerrell Martin. They also could have addressed the severe lack of playmaking and back court depth with this pick and decided not to. That’s it.


That wasn't available at #16 in the draft. Free Agency hasn't started yet either.


That’s weird. I thought NAW, Keldon Johnson, and Porter were still on the board. As well as Little.
basketballRob
RealGM
Posts: 37,520
And1: 14,987
Joined: May 05, 2014
     

Re: Chuma Okeke drafted #16 by the Orlando Magic 

Post#188 » by basketballRob » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:37 pm

Bakomagic wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
Bakomagic wrote:

Isn't Okeke a bigger version of NAW though , like small forward/ small ball power forward Version

NBA Draftnet Bio

"Strengths: He’s a high level jump shooter ... He shot over 38% from beyond the arc this past season ... He’s a capable scorer off the dribble ... He is great at moving without the basketball, he gives the offense a different dimension with his off ball movement ... He’s a solid playmaker, capable of finding his opening open teammates ... He improved his rebounding by 1 per game this past season ... He’s very active on the boards ... Knows his limits and stays within himself ... Displays his IQ on his shot selection ... He shot almost 50% from the field this season ... He’s a good defender, and good instincts on the defensive end of the floor.... He averaged over 1 block and almost 2 steals per game ... He’s a good athlete with a long wingspan, capable of scoring in transition and defending multiple positions ... He’s a solid scorer from the low post, able to take advantage of mismatches down low ... 7' foot wingpsan helps him overcome some of his height dificiencies as a post player ... Lack of a true position could end up working out well for him in today's positionless game ... He may work ideally in the role of a small ball 4 with his mobility and ability to face up and spread the floor ..."


Yes, thank you for cut and pasting Okekes draft bio.

The back court hasn’t been addressed. Not upset by the pick, but a back court of DJ/Fournier is probably the worst in the league and NAW would have had the opportunity more than a backup F.


Sarcasm ? I just pasted the Bio because it reads similar to what NAW brings to the table. either way are we sure NAW isnt just going to back up Ross and Fournier ?

I've had my fair share of negative Fournier posts here in the last year, but most of it is tied to performance related to salary. If we are talking strictly ability, i'm not sure NAW is ever better than Ross and Fournier and hes definitely not going to be better in his first couple of years.

If you are thinking of him handling ball handling/playmaking duties as the back up point. I also disagree that he is better than DJ next year and he wont be better than a healthy Fultz. I know a healthy Fultz is not easy to see right now but the only way to see if he can reach his potential is to give him minutes, which will obviously conflict with NAW getting playing time.

On the other side Okeke is more likely to be better (thus earning more minutes and a bigger role) than Jerell Martin and Iwundu now (when healthy) and in the future imo.
NAW can play PG too.

Sent from my SM-G965U using RealGM mobile app
basketballRob
RealGM
Posts: 37,520
And1: 14,987
Joined: May 05, 2014
     

Re: Chuma Okeke drafted #16 by the Orlando Magic 

Post#189 » by basketballRob » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:39 pm

When's the press conference?

Sent from my SM-G965U using RealGM mobile app
jayrehme
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,707
And1: 508
Joined: Feb 15, 2006
Location: Fort Myers, FL
 

Re: Chuma Okeke drafted #16 by the Orlando Magic 

Post#190 » by jayrehme » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:43 pm

MagicMatic wrote:
jayrehme wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
Playmaking is what Orlando lacks. Yes, Orlando could use a backup F in place of Jerrell Martin. They also could have addressed the severe lack of playmaking and back court depth with this pick and decided not to. That’s it.


That wasn't available at #16 in the draft. Free Agency hasn't started yet either.


That’s weird. I thought NAW, Keldon Johnson, and Porter were still on the board. As well as Little.


And also a bunch that went undrafted... but are they really NBA level playmakers?
User avatar
bigdogdylan5
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,498
And1: 2,310
Joined: May 13, 2011

Re: Chuma Okeke drafted #16 by the Orlando Magic 

Post#191 » by bigdogdylan5 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:47 pm

Man some of you guys make me want to go eat tide pods
Fine print disclaimer for Fultz:
I am high on Markelle Fultz. Yes I understand he is not perfect and needs to shoot more and better and turn the ball over less. I would really like to see him play one more year… and I did and he sucks time to move on.
User avatar
PrimeThyme
RealGM
Posts: 10,620
And1: 14,560
Joined: May 25, 2016
Location: Doak Campbell
 

Re: Chuma Okeke drafted #16 by the Orlando Magic 

Post#192 » by PrimeThyme » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:49 pm

I'm just not sure what he provides us outside of a better 3pt shot that Isaac/AG already don't. At the forward spot, I don't see him providing the Playmaking/shot creation that this team desperately needs. Thats why even though NAW's ceiling may be a bit lower, his impact on this team would be greater imo since he provides both of those things.

Just a really weird pick imo. We will see what happens in free agency/with Fultz but I'm not expecting much.
Image
User avatar
tiderulz
RealGM
Posts: 36,944
And1: 14,872
Joined: Jun 16, 2010
Location: Atlanta
 

Re: Chuma Okeke drafted #16 by the Orlando Magic 

Post#193 » by tiderulz » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:00 pm

jayrehme wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
Bakomagic wrote:
Sarcasm ? I just pasted the Bio because it reads similar to what NAW brings to the table. either way are we sure NAW isnt just going to back up Ross and Fournier ?

I've had my fair share of negative Fournier posts here in the last year, but most of it is tied to performance related to salary. If we are talking strictly ability, i'm not sure NAW is ever better than Ross and Fournier and hes definitely not going to be better in his first couple of years.

If you are thinking of him handling ball handling/playmaking duties as the back up point. I also disagree that he is better than DJ next year and he wont be better than a healthy Fultz. I know a healthy Fultz is not easy to see right now but the only way to see if he can reach his potential is to give him minutes, which will obviously conflict with NAW getting playing time.

On the other side Okeke is more likely to be better (thus earning more minutes and a bigger role) than Jerell Martin and Iwundu now (when healthy) and in the future imo.


Playmaking is what Orlando lacks. Yes, Orlando could use a backup F in place of Jerrell Martin. They also could have addressed the severe lack of playmaking and back court depth with this pick and decided not to. That’s it.


That wasn't available at #16 in the draft. Free Agency hasn't started yet either.

not true. That is exactly part of NAW's skill set. He averaged 4 apg from SG. most of the top PG's last year were only about 6 apg.
User avatar
Blue_and_Whte
RealGM
Posts: 24,678
And1: 9,568
Joined: Jun 26, 2009
Location: Orlando, FL.
     

Re: Chuma Okeke drafted #16 by the Orlando Magic 

Post#194 » by Blue_and_Whte » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:07 pm

MagicMatic wrote:
jayrehme wrote:
J the Drafter wrote: :-? And why won’t Okeke be playing power forward while AG and JI man the wings, besides Fournier be too good to Bench?


I can see a small ball lineup of AG/Okeke/Isaac at F/F/C being successful in stints as well.


No.

:lol:
Faith, Family, & Orlando Magic
#2A
#Adopt
#MAGA
jayrehme
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,707
And1: 508
Joined: Feb 15, 2006
Location: Fort Myers, FL
 

Re: Chuma Okeke drafted #16 by the Orlando Magic 

Post#195 » by jayrehme » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:10 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
jayrehme wrote:
I can see a small ball lineup of AG/Okeke/Isaac at F/F/C being successful in stints as well.


No.

:lol:


From the guy complaining about someone "policing their opinion"... that would work out great.. IMO
User avatar
Blue_and_Whte
RealGM
Posts: 24,678
And1: 9,568
Joined: Jun 26, 2009
Location: Orlando, FL.
     

Re: Chuma Okeke drafted #16 by the Orlando Magic 

Post#196 » by Blue_and_Whte » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:11 pm

Patrick1978 wrote:https://www.nba.com/magic/draft-experts-think-okeke-could-be-steal-draft-20190621

Everyone has an opinion. We won’t know until three years from now.
Faith, Family, & Orlando Magic
#2A
#Adopt
#MAGA
User avatar
Blue_and_Whte
RealGM
Posts: 24,678
And1: 9,568
Joined: Jun 26, 2009
Location: Orlando, FL.
     

Re: Chuma Okeke drafted #16 by the Orlando Magic 

Post#197 » by Blue_and_Whte » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:12 pm

jayrehme wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
No.

:lol:


From the guy complaining about someone "policing their opinion"... that would work out great.. IMO

Wrong thread.
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1830410&start=1700:roll:
Right... you confused have with had...
Faith, Family, & Orlando Magic
#2A
#Adopt
#MAGA
jayrehme
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,707
And1: 508
Joined: Feb 15, 2006
Location: Fort Myers, FL
 

Re: Chuma Okeke drafted #16 by the Orlando Magic 

Post#198 » by jayrehme » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:13 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:
jayrehme wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote: :lol:


From the guy complaining about someone "policing their opinion"... that would work out great.. IMO

Wrong thread.


Your thoughts change from thread to thread?
User avatar
Blue_and_Whte
RealGM
Posts: 24,678
And1: 9,568
Joined: Jun 26, 2009
Location: Orlando, FL.
     

Re: Chuma Okeke drafted #16 by the Orlando Magic 

Post#199 » by Blue_and_Whte » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:15 pm

jayrehme wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:
jayrehme wrote:
From the guy complaining about someone "policing their opinion"... that would work out great.. IMO

Wrong thread.


Your thoughts change from thread to thread?
oh you think.... No I was laughing AT you. I agree with MagicMatic

Bless your heart.
Faith, Family, & Orlando Magic
#2A
#Adopt
#MAGA
jayrehme
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,707
And1: 508
Joined: Feb 15, 2006
Location: Fort Myers, FL
 

Re: Chuma Okeke drafted #16 by the Orlando Magic 

Post#200 » by jayrehme » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:19 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:
jayrehme wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:Wrong thread.


Your thoughts change from thread to thread?
oh you think.... No I was laughing AT you. I agree with MagicMatic

Bless your heart.


Why?

Return to Orlando Magic