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Post#61 » by Sixerfever216 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:30 pm

sixers78 wrote:Why is this pick drawing so much criticism? It’s a late first rd pick. I mean I do hate trading with Boston. But I just don’t like Boston. I get the trade up for Fultz criticism. I even get the Zhaire over MJP criticism. But like are fans really upset over late firsts and how 2nd rd crap shoot picks were handled? I’m intrigued by his defense and off of stats judging free throws and 3pt % he should be able to become 3 and D I believe. Nets guards torched us badly. I don’t mind adding someone whose pedigree is defense. Work on the rest. What are you expecting drafting in the 20’s?


Because people want to be angry lol Elton let us know in advanced that he wasnt trying to bring in alot of very young players because this team is trying to win now. Also Thybulle was a name linked to the 76ers for a while .honestly think people are pissed because we didn't draft a player early in the 2nd round. So now fans are calling the whole draft bad. When really EB told us ahead of time his plan.
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Post#62 » by Negrodamus » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:32 pm

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Because we are sitting here having a back and forth over a darn late first player. Typically late first rd guys are nothing more than role players. You get lucky at times and find a Jimmy Butler. But most of the time it’s a role player. Even prior to the trade at 24. My whole thing was add something to help the bench/depth of this team. A shooter or 3 and D type of player. And my hopes is whoever we pick is someone who sticks instead of stinks.

I don’t know what Thybulle will do here. You don’t know what the players on your wish list would have done here. But you’re pretty confident not only were they better picks they would amount to one of the players you listed ie butler Draymond brogdon etc. time will tell.

Like I said earlier I get it. Top of the draft? Top 15? I get the criticism. But late first acting like we passed on a future star? I find it silly I’m sorry.


It's okay to not understand how championship rosters are constructed. If you peruse the threads on here, we discuss regularly how the Warriors, Raptors, Bucks, and other successful teams created their rosters and, more often than not, it's by hitting on studs in the late first round. It's how the Spurs dominated almost a decade of the NBA.

Or you can dismiss it, whatever you wanna do, buddy.


Random but I went into a thread just now where made a post that most of the players you wanted went undrafted. But hey man keep constructing those successful rosters over there bud.


Clearly not random, you're using a (poorly constructed) straw man to discredit my point.
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Post#63 » by sixers78 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:50 pm

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sixers78 wrote:Why is this pick drawing so much criticism? It’s a late first rd pick. I mean I do hate trading with Boston. But I just don’t like Boston. I get the trade up for Fultz criticism. I even get the Zhaire over MJP criticism. But like are fans really upset over late firsts and how 2nd rd crap shoot picks were handled? I’m intrigued by his defense and off of stats judging free throws and 3pt % he should be able to become 3 and D I believe. Nets guards torched us badly. I don’t mind adding someone whose pedigree is defense. Work on the rest. What are you expecting drafting in the 20’s?


Because people want to be angry lol Elton let us know in advanced that he wasnt trying to bring in alot of very young players because this team is trying to win now. Also Thybulle was a name linked to the 76ers for a while .honestly think people are pissed because we didn't draft a player early in the 2nd round. So now fans are calling the whole draft bad. When really EB told us ahead of time his plan.


I see lol
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Post#64 » by BullyKing » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:53 pm

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How many of them we're drafted by the Raptors themselves?


Who cares? The point is that valuable championship worthy rotation players can be found in the range where the Sixers were supposed to have four picks last night. It's not like those players weren't already playoff rotation players before they got there.


So you don’t think Thybulle has any chance of becoming a valuable championship worthy rotation player. Cool, I got it.


It wasn't my preference but I'm more upset about the other waste of resources
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Post#65 » by sixers78 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:53 pm

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It's okay to not understand how championship rosters are constructed. If you peruse the threads on here, we discuss regularly how the Warriors, Raptors, Bucks, and other successful teams created their rosters and, more often than not, it's by hitting on studs in the late first round. It's how the Spurs dominated almost a decade of the NBA.

Or you can dismiss it, whatever you wanna do, buddy.


Random but I went into a thread just now where made a post that most of the players you wanted went undrafted. But hey man keep constructing those successful rosters over there bud.


Clearly not random, you're using a (poorly constructed) straw man to discredit my point.


It honestly was. I went into the thread of the second rd pick to see what was said about the guy and came across your post. It is what it is tho. We are both rooting for the same goal. Sixers to win a title. Just disagree on what took place last night.
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Post#66 » by 76ciology » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:56 pm

Thybulle and Zhaire would help our 5 man unit sustain our team’s defense to be elite when Biid is off the floor. I expect Zhaire, Thybulle to play with both Tobias and Ben.
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Post#67 » by theo42 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:57 pm

The fact that people are pissed that we traded second round picks is hilarious. There was 0 shot that we were taking all of those picks last night or anything close. People need to wake up.
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Post#68 » by mhunt » Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:58 pm

theo42 wrote:The fact that people are pissed that we traded second round picks is hilarious. There was 0 shot that we were taking all of those picks last night or anything close. People need to wake up.


maybe they wanted to load up the blue coats! :lol:
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Post#69 » by bball4life » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:12 pm

I like this pick. You need lengthy, athletic defenders in today's NBA. Toronto won the chip with one superstar and a bunch of players who ranged from average to good but all played defense. They had no issues with switching or man defense because they had no glaring weaknesses on defense.

Then you just need 1 or 2 of those defenders who can hit open threes and you're golden. Van Vleet , Powell, Gasol, Green and Ibaka all took turns filling that role and voila!

I like having a mature, NBA ready guy who can come in and hold his own on defense immediately. If Zhaire or this dude can shoot threes at at least 35% we are in good shape, and won't have to suffer through prolonged periods of teams hunting Redick or TJ all playoffs long. Not to mention having someone who can at least limit the stud wing players without help defense and not run Butler into the ground.
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Post#70 » by Eyeamok » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:21 pm

bball4life wrote:I like this pick. You need lengthy, athletic defenders in today's NBA. Toronto won the chip with one superstar and a bunch of players who ranged from average to good but all played defense. They had no issues with switching or man defense because they had no glaring weaknesses on defense.

Then you just need 1 or 2 of those defenders who can hit open threes and you're golden. Van Vleet , Powell, Gasol, Green and Ibaka all took turns filling that role and voila!

I like having a mature, NBA ready guy who can come in and hold his own on defense immediately. If Zhaire or this dude can shoot threes at at least 35% we are in good shape, and won't have to suffer through prolonged periods of teams hunting Redick or TJ all playoffs long. Not to mention having someone who can at least limit the stud wing players without help defense and not run Butler into the ground.


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Post#71 » by PhillyFan11 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:16 pm

I love how people point to the Raptors as some great roster building success story...no, they were stuck in 2nd round purgatory until they traded for arguably the best player in the world. And once Kawhi leaves them all those late 1st/2nd round picks aren’t going to do them a damn bit of good.

Same with the Bucks...they can have all the depth they want, but until/if they put another super star level player next to Giannis their depth isn’t going to sniff them a championship.

And the Warriors have Iggy, Livingston, and a bunch of stiffs on their bench. They didn’t win championships because of their depth. They just have great players.

Great players win NBA titles, not depth.
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Post#72 » by Negrodamus » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:23 pm

PhillyFan11 wrote:I love how people point to the Raptors as some great roster building success story...no, they were stuck in 2nd round purgatory until they traded for arguably the best player in the world. And once Kawhi leaves them all those late 1st/2nd round picks aren’t going to do them a damn bit of good.

Same with the Bucks...they can have all the depth they want, but until/if they put another super star level player next to Giannis their depth isn’t going to sniff them a championship.

And the Warriors have Iggy, Livingston, and a bunch of stiffs on their bench. They didn’t win championships because of their depth. They just have great players.

Great players win NBA titles, not depth.


What an insane point to make. We HAVE our Kawhi Leonard. We NEED the pieces that Kawhi had around him.
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Post#73 » by hookshot199 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:44 pm

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Sixers picked in the second round. Maybe you can expound on your thoughts because you're being vague. If you want to see who I thought were better options, check out the NBA draft thread because I'm certainly not going rehash my thoughts to someone calling me "utterly ridiculous"


Because we are sitting here having a back and forth over a darn late first player. Typically late first rd guys are nothing more than role players. You get lucky at times and find a Jimmy Butler. But most of the time it’s a role player. Even prior to the trade at 24. My whole thing was add something to help the bench/depth of this team. A shooter or 3 and D type of player. And my hopes is whoever we pick is someone who sticks instead of stinks.

I don’t know what Thybulle will do here. You don’t know what the players on your wish list would have done here. But you’re pretty confident not only were they better picks they would amount to one of the players you listed ie butler Draymond brogdon etc. time will tell.

Like I said earlier I get it. Top of the draft? Top 15? I get the criticism. But late first acting like we passed on a future star? I find it silly I’m sorry.


It's okay to not understand how championship rosters are constructed. If you peruse the threads on here, we discuss regularly how the Warriors, Raptors, Bucks, and other successful teams created their rosters and, more often than not, it's by hitting on studs in the late first round. It's how the Spurs dominated almost a decade of the NBA.

Or you can dismiss it, whatever you wanna do, buddy.


Just a short reminder about the Spurs. They made the second round of the playoffs with a 59-win season in 1995-1996. Robinson went down and they won 20 games, third worst in the league and lucked out and won the lottery in 2017, drafting Duncan. They made the playoffs 18 times in the next 19 seasons including all of their championships. Not to take away from their late-round drafting smarts and player development capability, but it's easier when you have a dominant player like Duncan (who averaged more than 70 games per season; he was also durable) and a coach like Popovich who took over the coaching job in the '96-'97 season.

It's too soon to say whether Brand blew the draft. That will depend on whether Thybulle emerges as a really good player. But he surely squandered the 34 and probably 42 picks. Just my opinion.
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Post#74 » by PhillyFan11 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:46 pm

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PhillyFan11 wrote:I love how people point to the Raptors as some great roster building success story...no, they were stuck in 2nd round purgatory until they traded for arguably the best player in the world. And once Kawhi leaves them all those late 1st/2nd round picks aren’t going to do them a damn bit of good.

Same with the Bucks...they can have all the depth they want, but until/if they put another super star level player next to Giannis their depth isn’t going to sniff them a championship.

And the Warriors have Iggy, Livingston, and a bunch of stiffs on their bench. They didn’t win championships because of their depth. They just have great players.

Great players win NBA titles, not depth.


What an insane point to make. We HAVE our Kawhi Leonard. We NEED the pieces that Kawhi had around him.


Wait what??? You think we have a top 5 player in the world on our roster? Who is this mysterious player?

And even further...you think Ibaka/Gasol, Green, Lowry, Siakam is > Butler, Harris, Simmons, JJ?

Or are you suggesting that the raptors won the championship because of guys like VanFleet and Powell??
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Post#75 » by Negrodamus » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:47 pm

Right, they tanked and got Duncan. We tanked and got a few players. We’re currently in the middle of the Duncan run.... except without the championships. So we need to keep grabbing young potential to hopefully hit on one or two every so often.
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Post#76 » by Negrodamus » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:04 pm

PhillyFan11 wrote:
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PhillyFan11 wrote:I love how people point to the Raptors as some great roster building success story...no, they were stuck in 2nd round purgatory until they traded for arguably the best player in the world. And once Kawhi leaves them all those late 1st/2nd round picks aren’t going to do them a damn bit of good.

Same with the Bucks...they can have all the depth they want, but until/if they put another super star level player next to Giannis their depth isn’t going to sniff them a championship.

And the Warriors have Iggy, Livingston, and a bunch of stiffs on their bench. They didn’t win championships because of their depth. They just have great players.

Great players win NBA titles, not depth.


What an insane point to make. We HAVE our Kawhi Leonard. We NEED the pieces that Kawhi had around him.


Wait what??? You think we have a top 5 player in the world on our roster? Who is this mysterious player?

And even further...you think Ibaka/Gasol, Green, Lowry, Siakam is > Butler, Harris, Simmons, JJ?

Or are you suggesting that the raptors won the championship because of guys like VanFleet and Powell??


Shake Milton is our top 5 player. And Toronto > Philly.
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Post#77 » by PhillyFan11 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:08 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
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What an insane point to make. We HAVE our Kawhi Leonard. We NEED the pieces that Kawhi had around him.


Wait what??? You think we have a top 5 player in the world on our roster? Who is this mysterious player?

And even further...you think Ibaka/Gasol, Green, Lowry, Siakam is > Butler, Harris, Simmons, JJ?

Or are you suggesting that the raptors won the championship because of guys like VanFleet and Powell??


Shake Milton is our top 5 player. And Toronto > Philly.


You need to pass me whatever you’re smoking buddy. This blissful delusion you have seems fun
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Post#78 » by Negrodamus » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:10 pm

PhillyFan11 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
PhillyFan11 wrote:
Wait what??? You think we have a top 5 player in the world on our roster? Who is this mysterious player?

And even further...you think Ibaka/Gasol, Green, Lowry, Siakam is > Butler, Harris, Simmons, JJ?

Or are you suggesting that the raptors won the championship because of guys like VanFleet and Powell??


Shake Milton is our top 5 player. And Toronto > Philly.


You need to pass me whatever you’re smoking buddy. This blissful delusion you have seems fun


Oh, I thought we were playing dumb when you asked who is our star player.
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Post#79 » by Stanford » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:27 pm

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Post#80 » by LloydFree » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:27 pm

Negrodamus wrote:Right, they tanked and got Duncan. We tanked and got a few players. We’re currently in the middle of the Duncan run.... except without the championships. So we need to keep grabbing young potential to hopefully hit on one or two every so often.

Not the same. San Antonio already had stars before they tanked for Duncan. They held stars out with fake injuries to get more stars.
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