Do you think Rob Pelinka even realized he needed to re-do the trade for extra cap? Or only after the internet did?

[ragesincemdxvi]

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[asero]

May I know what else could Pelinka have done differently aside from including Bonga and Mo Wagner in the AD trade?

Ofcourse the Pelicans would not want to wait until July 30 as there is no incentive for them

[lamscott]

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Man.... No one talking about Pelinka anymore.

[Texas_Lakers]

Rob Pelinka is the dumbest GM in the NBA and it's not even close. First of all he traded away a potential all star in Brandon Ingram and a decent point guard in Lonzo Ball,5 1st round picks for a 1 year rental in Anthony Davis.Second of all he has no idea how the salary cap works. Third of all,he's pretending as if any team would take players like MO Wagner and those other scrubs that the Lakers are offering to clear cap space. Even the Kings front office back in the 2015/2016 season wasn't nearly as incompetent and as desperate as the LA Lakers front office is right now.

Congrats, nearly every point you tried to make is wrong.

1) It wasn't 5 1st round picks, it was three picks and a pick swap

2) So is Ingram a potential all-star or a role player?

I think Brandon Ingram will probably be role player at best.

3) AD has already said that the Lakers and the Knicks are the only teams he'll sign with long term if he's traded so this is clearly not a one year rental
4) Pelinka was a very successful agent for many years before becoming the Lakers GM. Thinking that he "has no idea how the salary cap work" is ridiculous

BTW, good call on the AD trade.

I have been hearing conversations far as the Lakers trading for Anthony Davis,even more so since last night.Lets be real here,the Lakers are not in the running for Anthony Davis or any other star player for that matter. First and foremost this team is dysfunctional, even more compared to the 2015/2016 Sacramento Kings,so that already rules them out far as any free agents are concerned.Second, the Lakers have no real trading packs that any team would want.Third,who truly wants to play for a trash team like the Lakers.I don't even see how even above role players would want to join the Lakers,let alone a star player. It seem the people who saying that Lakers have a chance of getting a star player, are probably Lakers fans or Lebron James fans.

He's proven to be nothing more than a Laker hater, he may be auditioning for an Internship under Woj.

[The Laker Kid]

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Man.... No one talking about Pelinka anymore.

They're always going to find something to hate Next, AD is overrated

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Man.... No one talking about Pelinka anymore.

Fake news.There's no way the Pelicans will allow the Lakers to expand their 7/6 trade,so the Lakers can have more than 23.7 million dollars in cap space.The Pelicans would greatly benefit from the Lakers being one of the worst teams in the NBA,and allowing the Lakers to expand on the trade to gain more salary cap seems to out of the question for that reason. Plus no team would want Mo Wagner and thsoe other scrubs anyway.

[kg01]

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Man.... No one talking about Pelinka anymore.

Fake news.There's no way the Pelicans will allow the Lakers to expand their 7/6 trade,so the Lakers can more than 23.7 million dollars in cap space.The Pelicans would greatly bebefit from the Lakers being one of the worst teams in the NBA,and giving more salary cap seems to out of the question. Plus no team would want Mo Wagner and thsoe other scrubs anyway.

I tend to agree with your sentiment (that NO shouldn't expand it to simply accommodate LAL's mistake). And I hope folks more knowledgeable than me chime in.

However, I was under the impression that the ATL/NOP deal was an indication that the NOP/LAL deal had indeed been expanded to include ATL as the 3rd team LAL needs. Basically that there are more pieces coming.

Am I wrong?

[JC28]

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Man.... No one talking about Pelinka anymore.

Fake news.There's no way the Pelicans will allow the Lakers to expand their 7/6 trade,so the Lakers can more than 23.7 million dollars in cap space.The Pelicans would greatly bebefit from the Lakers being one of the worst teams in the NBA,and giving more salary cap seems to out of the question. Plus no team would want Mo Wagner and thsoe other scrubs anyway.

I tend to agree with your sentiment (that NO shouldn't expand it to simply accommodate LAL's mistake). And I hope folks more knowledgeable than me chime in.

However, I was under the impression that the ATL/NOP deal was an indication that the NOP/LAL deal had indeed been expanded to include ATL as the 3rd team LAL needs. Basically that there are more pieces coming.

Am I wrong?

End of the day if LAL wants any sort of real value they will have to compensate Griffen, which probably means Kuzma and cash, possibly more first. Even then I don't think it's likely. Maybe LAL will be able to dump a contract in there.

[DreamTeam09]

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Man.... No one talking about Pelinka anymore.

Fake news.There's no way the Pelicans will allow the Lakers to expand their 7/6 trade,so the Lakers can more than 23.7 million dollars in cap space.The Pelicans would greatly bebefit from the Lakers being one of the worst teams in the NBA,and giving more salary cap seems to out of the question. Plus no team would want Mo Wagner and thsoe other scrubs anyway.

I tend to agree with your sentiment (that NO shouldn't expand it to simply accommodate LAL's mistake). And I hope folks more knowledgeable than me chime in.

However, I was under the impression that the ATL/NOP deal was an indication that the NOP/LAL deal had indeed been expanded to include ATL as the 3rd team LAL needs. Basically that there are more pieces coming.

Am I wrong?

No it would've been probably better for the Lakers if NO didn't trade that pick. The fact that NO did trade the pick is an indication of the July 6th date because (ATL) would want their newly selected pick to be on their team right away and not miss SL or noteven to be able to be around the team

[kg01]

Fake news.There's no way the Pelicans will allow the Lakers to expand their 7/6 trade,so the Lakers can more than 23.7 million dollars in cap space.The Pelicans would greatly bebefit from the Lakers being one of the worst teams in the NBA,and giving more salary cap seems to out of the question. Plus no team would want Mo Wagner and thsoe other scrubs anyway.

I tend to agree with your sentiment (that NO shouldn't expand it to simply accommodate LAL's mistake). And I hope folks more knowledgeable than me chime in.

However, I was under the impression that the ATL/NOP deal was an indication that the NOP/LAL deal had indeed been expanded to include ATL as the 3rd team LAL needs. Basically that there are more pieces coming.

Am I wrong?

End of the day if LAL wants any sort of real value they will have to compensate Griffen, which probably means Kuzma and cash, possibly more first. Even then I don't think it's likely. Maybe LAL will be able to dump a contract in there.

That's what I'm confused about. If I were NOP, I'd want additional compensation. Maybe not Kuzma but maybe drop the protections on the pick(s) that are currently protected. Something like that.

Then, by extension, does ATL also get a lil' sumthin, sumthin?

[lamscott]

I tend to agree with your sentiment (that NO shouldn't expand it to simply accommodate LAL's mistake). And I hope folks more knowledgeable than me chime in.

However, I was under the impression that the ATL/NOP deal was an indication that the NOP/LAL deal had indeed been expanded to include ATL as the 3rd team LAL needs. Basically that there are more pieces coming.

Am I wrong?

End of the day if LAL wants any sort of real value they will have to compensate Griffen, which probably means Kuzma and cash, possibly more first. Even then I don't think it's likely. Maybe LAL will be able to dump a contract in there.

That's what I'm confused about. If I were NOP, I'd want additional compensation. Maybe not Kuzma but maybe drop the protections on the pick(s) that are currently protected. Something like that.

Then, by extension, does ATL also get a lil' sumthin, sumthin?

I think the trade is still evolving. Nothing is really settled except for the key pieces.

My issue is this constant hating or perception that the Pelinka is a dumb troll is absolutely wrong.

[Effigy]

End of the day if LAL wants any sort of real value they will have to compensate Griffen, which probably means Kuzma and cash, possibly more first. Even then I don't think it's likely. Maybe LAL will be able to dump a contract in there.

That's what I'm confused about. If I were NOP, I'd want additional compensation. Maybe not Kuzma but maybe drop the protections on the pick(s) that are currently protected. Something like that.

Then, by extension, does ATL also get a lil' sumthin, sumthin?

I think the trade is still evolving. Nothing is really settled except for the key pieces.

My issue is this constant hating or perception that the Pelinka is a dumb troll is absolutely wrong.

It doesn't seem like it is. We have Ramona's report that they didn't know when they made the AD trade and had to call them back. If the trade happens on the 6th, then I think we can clearly see that Rob didn't know, or else he would have insisted on the 30th as the trade was being worked out.

[lamscott]

That's what I'm confused about. If I were NOP, I'd want additional compensation. Maybe not Kuzma but maybe drop the protections on the pick(s) that are currently protected. Something like that.

Then, by extension, does ATL also get a lil' sumthin, sumthin?

I think the trade is still evolving. Nothing is really settled except for the key pieces.

My issue is this constant hating or perception that the Pelinka is a dumb troll is absolutely wrong.

It doesn't seem like it is. We have Ramona's report that they didn't know when they made the AD trade and had to call them back. If the trade happens on the 6th, then I think we can clearly see that Rob didn't know, or else he would have insisted on the 30th as the trade was being worked out.

This is incorrect. The truth is the dates were negotiated. Everyone was speculating and setting incorrect reports. You can see from twitter that there have been a slew of corrections. Even WOJ corrected himself to a point. But there has been so much misrepresented info out there, that the fake news continues to permiate.

[Effigy]

I think the trade is still evolving. Nothing is really settled except for the key pieces.

My issue is this constant hating or perception that the Pelinka is a dumb troll is absolutely wrong.

It doesn't seem like it is. We have Ramona's report that they didn't know when they made the AD trade and had to call them back. If the trade happens on the 6th, then I think we can clearly see that Rob didn't know, or else he would have insisted on the 30th as the trade was being worked out.

This is incorrect. The truth is the dates were negotiated. Everyone was speculating and setting incorrect reports. You can see from twitter that there have been a slew of corrections. Even WOJ corrected himself to a point. But there has been so much misrepresented info out there, that the fake news continues to permiate.

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We know the July 6 date was agreed upon. But the reports are that after that, Pelinka realized he needed to get it moved to the 30th and the Pelicans were agreeable to doing that unless they added another team to the trade. They did so, so the Lakers weren't allowed to move it. That seems to be what's been reported. I haven't seen anything that specifically contradicts that.

[lamscott]

It doesn't seem like it is. We have Ramona's report that they didn't know when they made the AD trade and had to call them back. If the trade happens on the 6th, then I think we can clearly see that Rob didn't know, or else he would have insisted on the 30th as the trade was being worked out.

This is incorrect. The truth is the dates were negotiated. Everyone was speculating and setting incorrect reports. You can see from twitter that there have been a slew of corrections. Even WOJ corrected himself to a point. But there has been so much misrepresented info out there, that the fake news continues to permiate.

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We know the July 6 date was agreed upon. But the reports are that after that, Pelinka realized he needed to get it moved to the 30th and the Pelicans were agreeable to doing that unless they added another team to the trade. They did so, so the Lakers weren't allowed to move it. That seems to be what's been reported. I haven't seen anything that specifically contradicts that.

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[Vae Victus]

I tend to agree with your sentiment (that NO shouldn't expand it to simply accommodate LAL's mistake). And I hope folks more knowledgeable than me chime in.

However, I was under the impression that the ATL/NOP deal was an indication that the NOP/LAL deal had indeed been expanded to include ATL as the 3rd team LAL needs. Basically that there are more pieces coming.

Am I wrong?

End of the day if LAL wants any sort of real value they will have to compensate Griffen, which probably means Kuzma and cash, possibly more first. Even then I don't think it's likely. Maybe LAL will be able to dump a contract in there.

That's what I'm confused about. If I were NOP, I'd want additional compensation. Maybe not Kuzma but maybe drop the protections on the pick(s) that are currently protected. Something like that.

Then, by extension, does ATL also get a lil' sumthin, sumthin?

If LAL gets strongarmed like that, then they'll renege, the deal falls apart, and Pelinka uses it as an easy excuse on how things fell apart. No matter what, Pelinka will get called a clown, but by this point, better to be called a clown than be confirmed a clown by going through with a deal that makes no sense at all for the Lakers (IE no max slot).

Griffin NEEDS this deal to be executed, cuz his future pick haul is insane. If NOP needs to beg ATL to be involved in a 3way or to ask em to be cool with Hunter unable to join the ATL Summer League team, they'll be the ones to cough up an asset to ATL for the trouble. Maybe ask LAL to toss in a future SRP to ATL where LAL would be more than happy to do that since a 7/30 deal means they get to keep Wagner, Bonga (Moon will be waived), and AD gets his trade kicker.

The stakes are too high for NOP to screw it up.

Cuz if this deal falls apart...

Now what?

[Mr Loggins]

This is incorrect. The truth is the dates were negotiated. Everyone was speculating and setting incorrect reports. You can see from twitter that there have been a slew of corrections. Even WOJ corrected himself to a point. But there has been so much misrepresented info out there, that the fake news continues to permiate.

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We know the July 6 date was agreed upon. But the reports are that after that, Pelinka realized he needed to get it moved to the 30th and the Pelicans were agreeable to doing that unless they added another team to the trade. They did so, so the Lakers weren't allowed to move it. That seems to be what's been reported. I haven't seen anything that specifically contradicts that.

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Doesn’t sound very convincing, tbh.

[HBK_Kliq_33]

If they think they are getting Kawhi Leonard, they have another thing coming. Leonard told Ric Butcher that he wants to play against LeBron to beat him and not team up with him. Lakers probably have a worse chance than any team in getting him for that fact alone.

[CelticsFTW]

End of the day if LAL wants any sort of real value they will have to compensate Griffen, which probably means Kuzma and cash, possibly more first. Even then I don't think it's likely. Maybe LAL will be able to dump a contract in there.

That's what I'm confused about. If I were NOP, I'd want additional compensation. Maybe not Kuzma but maybe drop the protections on the pick(s) that are currently protected. Something like that.

Then, by extension, does ATL also get a lil' sumthin, sumthin?

If LAL gets strongarmed like that, then they'll renege, the deal falls apart, and Pelinka uses it as an easy excuse on how things fell apart. No matter what, Pelinka will get called a clown, but by this point, better to be called a clown than be confirmed a clown by going through with a deal that makes no sense at all for the Lakers (IE no max slot).

Griffin NEEDS this deal to be executed, cuz his future pick haul is insane. If NOP needs to beg ATL to be involved in a 3way or to ask em to be cool with Hunter unable to join the ATL Summer League team, they'll be the ones to cough up an asset to ATL for the trouble. Maybe ask LAL to toss in a future SRP to ATL where LAL would be more than happy to do that since a 7/30 deal means they get to keep Wagner, Bonga (Moon will be waived), and AD gets his trade kicker.

The stakes are too high for NOP to screw it up.

Cuz if this deal falls apart...

Now what?

I am not convinced. NOP would still have Zion and Lakers would have an angry LeBron.

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[Effigy]

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We know the July 6 date was agreed upon. But the reports are that after that, Pelinka realized he needed to get it moved to the 30th and the Pelicans were agreeable to doing that unless they added another team to the trade. They did so, so the Lakers weren't allowed to move it. That seems to be what's been reported. I haven't seen anything that specifically contradicts that.

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Doesn’t sound very convincing, tbh.

It just doesn't make any sense. The Lakers knew they needed to do this, but just didnt'? Ramona's report makes sense, that explains why it didn't happen. It's funny because lately we have so many people accusing certain reporters of being against their franchises, but nobody seems to consider the other side of things, that the ones who 'report' things that don't make sense might be in the pocket of the franchises....