Future Free Agent Thread

[babyjax13]

idea from babyjax13 from the TnT board:

We have TPE of 3.9M that we can use before June 30th. The problem is that the max we can absorb without waiving Neto in order to be able to absorb Conley is around 2M, which is exact number for Mo Wagner who the Lakers are reportedly trying to dump...

So our second for Wagner? What do you say?

I'm not in favor of enabling the Lakers to get a 3rd star.

Bryn Forbes was also mentioned, and he'd be a perfect fit for us. We'd have to send two seconds, including San Antonios

[babyjax13]

Niang is going to have to step it up...or maybe Quin just needs to trust him more. From an offensive standpoint, Niang is just what we need. Great set shooter with a little bit of ball handler and passing. Thought he should have gotten more of a shot than he did last year.

I'm not against using a minimum to bring back Thabo either. But we need some kind of fresh blood at the 4 spot. Jabari/Hezonja is a good dice roll IMO.

My concern is Niang's defense. I think he's a very cerebral and skilled player on offense, but he's got the shortest little arms and not super great lateral speed.

[babyjax13]

I still think the S&T for Randall makes the most sense, he fits what Utah wants to do and it gives Favs a chance to start full time and earn a payday.

New Orleans doesn't own his bird rights, so no sign and trade.

[AingesBurner]

I still think the S&T for Randall makes the most sense, he fits what Utah wants to do and it gives Favs a chance to start full time and earn a payday.

New Orleans doesn't own his bird rights, so no sign and trade.

Okay trade him to Boston for a pick and sign Randle using cap.

[babyjax13]

Utah has signed Juwan Morgan from Indiana. Guessing it's an exhibit 10 contract.

[mjvile]

http://www.slcdunk.com/platform/amp/nba-free-agency/2019/6/21/18713089/2019-nba-free-agency-tobias-harris-has-a-strong-interest-utah-jazz-tony-jones-of-the-athletic

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Pulling this off would clearly put us over hump.

Gobert/Bradley/FA
Tobias/Niang/Brantley
Ingles/Oni/FA
Mitchell/ONeale/FA
Conley/Wright-Foreman/Williams-Goss

Would have to give up Favors,Exum, and Neto but it’s possible!! We wouldn’t have much depth but at this point we would rely on vet minimums for those ring chasing players.

[Inigo Montoya]

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[mjvile]

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If there is a probability of this happening and the way the jazz drafted it seems like it’s something the FO maybe considering. That would be the move that would show us that the FO is serious about get a Chip in SLC

[Daddy 801]

Can Conley sign a new deal with the Jazz allowing their to be more capspace? Maybe a 4 year 100 million deal? That would give a little more cap space...if allowed. Only like 5-7 million, but maybe it’s worth it if he is open to that. Risky, but also a show of good faith and having Conley and Harris on four year deals would be nice going into the next few years as far as stability and Gobert and Donovan’s contracts coming up.

Just a thought.

Also, if this is allowed maybe you approach Ingles with the same idea. Instead of 2 years at 13 million each year you offer 4/40.

Again, just a thought.

[Rauxcee]

Man I'd love to get Harris with Conley. If that happened giving up 5 FRP on player rentals wont be so bad. That would be worth the gamble.

Seems incredibly unlikey unless teams want to helps us out or Harris takes a short term paycut or cut in years. Both seem unlikely.

Someone posted an article that said we could try to do what the Lakers wanted to do: sign a FA and then do the trade. Not sure on the logistics of that though.

[stitches]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryantoporek/2019/06/22/tobias-harris-says-style-of-play-is-top-priority-in-free-agency/#146b3ac7525f

Free-agent suitors, take note: Tobias Harris is prioritizing style of play above all else in free agency.

Bleacher Report had Harris and New Orleans Pelicans guard Josh Hart on its 2019 NBA draft livestream, and host Taylor Rooks asked Harris what was most important to him as he weighs his free-agent options in the coming weeks.

"The most important thing for me, I would say, is style of play," he said. "That's the most important thing for me. That's big for myself and my game, how I envision myself playing, envision myself growing and getting better year after year. So style of play, for my type of game, is the No. 1 thing I'm looking for in free agency."

When Rooks asked what style of play Harris would prefer, he replied:

"Up and down, spread the floor, kinda like what everybody pictures the modern-day NBA team to be. Let's shoot threes, get downhill, let's get to the free-throw line, because those are the most efficient ways [to score]. But ball movement is the biggest thing. So, that style of play is most fitting for me."

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"For me, honestly, style of play is a huge thing," he told reporters during his exit interview in May. "Culture, you know, a chance to be able to win."

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“A great organization," he replied when asked what he's looking for in free agency. "Obviously, winning’s important for me, star players are important, and just putting myself in the right opportunity to continue to improve my game and get better year in and year out."

[Luigi]

Man I'd love to get Harris with Conley. If that happened giving up 5 FRP on player rentals wont be so bad. That would be worth the gamble.

Seems incredibly unlikey unless teams want to helps us out or Harris takes a short term paycut or cut in years. Both seem unlikely.

Someone posted an article that said we could try to do what the Lakers wanted to do: sign a FA and then do the trade. Not sure on the logistics of that though.

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[dr0welf]

Wonder if we could get Tobias to sign a 2 year with a PO after 1? or just a cheaper 1 year deal. Can't we go over the cap to sign him the next year since he would be a FA on our team?

[Rauxcee]

Wonder if we could get Tobias to sign a 2 year with a PO after 1? or just a cheaper 1 year deal. Can't we go over the cap to sign him the next year since he would be a FA on our team?

I believe they have to be on the team 2 years before you can go over the cap like that.

[Luigi]

Yeah, give him a player option so he can opt out and get paid again. He'll look good in our offense with Conley, and we can tell him we'll max him when he opts out then

[Calhamid94]

Rumors are Bobby Portis wants to play for the jazz. Confirmed by Tony Jones

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Rumors are Bobby Portis wants to play for the jazz. Confirmed by Tony Jones

All of a sudden they all want to play for the Jazz once we cannot afford any of them. SMH

[Luigi]

Ok, so if we move Exum into someone's capspace (attach a pick as part of the Memphis trade?), and waive everyone (including Favors), I'm getting us to $27.8 for Harris. We can then give Harris a 4 year deal worth$119.4. Build in player options where possible.

The 76ers can bring him back with bird rights, but I doubt they wanna give him 5 years. They can go 4 year max at $146.5.

$27 is a real difference. But the 76ers will get into tax territory pretty fast if they wanna keep Redick and flll out their roster. With a 4 year max for Butler, a 4 year max for Harris, and 3 year 69.5 for Redick, they'll have 7 guys on the roster and only $4.8 before the tax starts. So if Butler stays (not sure he will), they'll be looking to penny pinch. Maybe they don't wanna full max Tobias anyway, and he'll like our 119.4 with a player option and a good fit.

Seems like we need to expand that Memphis deal to open up more space.

[Calhamid94]

Rumors are Bobby Portis wants to play for the jazz. Confirmed by Tony Jones

All of a sudden they all want to play for the Jazz once we cannot afford any of them. SMH

We can still make something happen in free agency. Just have to move a few pieces around. I’ll keep saying this until the jazz show me something. We should have included Exum in the Memphis trade and pushed for delon Wright. We would then have a PG and a solid back up PG. all we need to do is address the 4 and we’re set

[Luigi]

We really should move Exum + a pick into someone's cap space so we can give a near max to Tobias Harris. Harris would take a haircut, but we can offer him a player option and a good situation. Plenty of vet minimums and the RMLE after that.

Do it Tobias! Do it Zanik! This is the year to make it happen.