Chuma Okeke drafted #16 by the Orlando Magic

[spinedoc]

No more negativity from me. I've vented, I'm over it, and I will not be looking for justification. Spilled milk, let's go Okeke, you have my support.

[tiderulz]

No more negativity from me. I've vented, I'm over it, and I will not be looking for justification. Spilled milk, let's go Okeke, you have my support.

i dont think anyone doesnt support Okeke. But its okay to question the front office when they only big move they have made was hire Clifford, who was fired by Charlotte. and to be honest, it wasnt some braniac risk, was just a coach with a record of solid defense.

[j-ragg]

No more negativity from me. I've vented, I'm over it, and I will not be looking for justification. Spilled milk, let's go Okeke, you have my support.

i dont think anyone doesnt support Okeke. But its okay to question the front office when they only big move they have made was hire Clifford, who was fired by Charlotte. and to be honest, it wasnt some braniac risk, was just a coach with a record of solid defense.

This is where I'm at. I hope Chuma turns out to be a stud. I just think it's weird seeing so many posts like "well... I've never heard of the guy but I trust WeHam" I don't think they've done much to earn that yet, but some people seem to see the glass a little more half full with them. If Giannis didn't exist would Hammond even have as a GM?

[tiderulz]

No more negativity from me. I've vented, I'm over it, and I will not be looking for justification. Spilled milk, let's go Okeke, you have my support.

i dont think anyone doesnt support Okeke. But its okay to question the front office when they only big move they have made was hire Clifford, who was fired by Charlotte. and to be honest, it wasnt some braniac risk, was just a coach with a record of solid defense.

This is where I'm at. I hope Chuma turns out to be a stud. I just think it's weird seeing so many posts like "well... I've never heard of the guy but I trust WeHam" I don't think they've done much to earn that yet, but some people seem to see the glass a little more half full with them. If Giannis didn't exist would Hammond even have as a GM?

yep. and then pointing out Toronto drafts, 2012-2016 you have:
2012 - Ross #8 - good player, best role is 6th man, two 2nd rounders that did not pan out
2014 - Bruno Caboclo #20 - still waiting for him to "develop". two 2nd rounders that did not pan out
2015 - Delon Wright #20 - now 27 yr old backup PG. may always be a backup PG, hasnt shown anything more
2016 - Jakob Poeltl #9 3 yrs looks like a backup center, Pascal Siakam #27 has really developed into very good player

you dont hit on every pick, i wont blame any gm for that. I just think a GM will hit on one player and then people seem to forget about all the other misses and call them a genius.

[BadMofoPimp]

i dont think anyone doesnt support Okeke. But its okay to question the front office when they only big move they have made was hire Clifford, who was fired by Charlotte. and to be honest, it wasnt some braniac risk, was just a coach with a record of solid defense.

This is where I'm at. I hope Chuma turns out to be a stud. I just think it's weird seeing so many posts like "well... I've never heard of the guy but I trust WeHam" I don't think they've done much to earn that yet, but some people seem to see the glass a little more half full with them. If Giannis didn't exist would Hammond even have as a GM?

yep. and then pointing out Toronto drafts, 2012-2016 you have:
2012 - Ross #8 - good player, best role is 6th man, two 2nd rounders that did not pan out
2014 - Bruno Caboclo #20 - still waiting for him to "develop". two 2nd rounders that did not pan out
2015 - Delon Wright #20 - now 27 yr old backup PG. may always be a backup PG, hasnt shown anything more
2016 - Jakob Poeltl #9 3 yrs looks like a backup center, Pascal Siakam #27 has really developed into very good player

you dont hit on every pick, i wont blame any gm for that. I just think a GM will hit on one player and then people seem to forget about all the other misses and call them a genius.

That is what happened with Hinkie when he won Embiid. If he didn't win Embiid, he would be considered one of the worst GMs in Philly history and people would laugh at their "process."

[j-ragg]

This is where I'm at. I hope Chuma turns out to be a stud. I just think it's weird seeing so many posts like "well... I've never heard of the guy but I trust WeHam" I don't think they've done much to earn that yet, but some people seem to see the glass a little more half full with them. If Giannis didn't exist would Hammond even have as a GM?

yep. and then pointing out Toronto drafts, 2012-2016 you have:
2012 - Ross #8 - good player, best role is 6th man, two 2nd rounders that did not pan out
2014 - Bruno Caboclo #20 - still waiting for him to "develop". two 2nd rounders that did not pan out
2015 - Delon Wright #20 - now 27 yr old backup PG. may always be a backup PG, hasnt shown anything more
2016 - Jakob Poeltl #9 3 yrs looks like a backup center, Pascal Siakam #27 has really developed into very good player

you dont hit on every pick, i wont blame any gm for that. I just think a GM will hit on one player and then people seem to forget about all the other misses and call them a genius.

That is what happened with Hinkie when he won Embiid. If he didn't win Embiid, he would be considered one of the worst GMs in Philly history.

That's not true imo. It was more of Hinkie's trades I think that got him a positive outlook with fans. Trading MCW when his value was highest (understatement), taking on a couple bad contracts for an unprotected Kings pick (ended up being Langford this year I think), realizing Rob wanted Elfrid so bad that he got him to give up a couple picks to move two spots, etc. I think his drafting (Okafor, MCW, Noel kinda) was maybe his worst attribute. His collection of assets to be able to draft/trade is what people loved about him though.

[BadMofoPimp]

yep. and then pointing out Toronto drafts, 2012-2016 you have:
2012 - Ross #8 - good player, best role is 6th man, two 2nd rounders that did not pan out
2014 - Bruno Caboclo #20 - still waiting for him to "develop". two 2nd rounders that did not pan out
2015 - Delon Wright #20 - now 27 yr old backup PG. may always be a backup PG, hasnt shown anything more
2016 - Jakob Poeltl #9 3 yrs looks like a backup center, Pascal Siakam #27 has really developed into very good player

you dont hit on every pick, i wont blame any gm for that. I just think a GM will hit on one player and then people seem to forget about all the other misses and call them a genius.

That is what happened with Hinkie when he won Embiid. If he didn't win Embiid, he would be considered one of the worst GMs in Philly history.

That's not true imo. It was more of Hinkie's trades I think that got him a positive outlook with fans. Trading MCW when his value was highest (understatement), taking on a couple bad contracts for an unprotected Kings pick (ended up being Langford this year I think), realizing Rob wanted Elfrid so bad that he got him to give up a couple picks to move two spots, etc. I think his drafting (Okafor, MCW, Noel kinda) was maybe his worst attribute. His collection of assets to be able to draft/trade is what people loved about him though.

If the team did not win Embiid, they would still be in the lottery and nobody would call Hinkie a genius. Maybe, not one of the worst as that was an exaggeration. But, nobody would call him a genius anymore if not for Embiid.

[Audi]

No more negativity from me. I've vented, I'm over it, and I will not be looking for justification. Spilled milk, let's go Okeke, you have my support.

i dont think anyone doesnt support Okeke. But its okay to question the front office when they only big move they have made was hire Clifford, who was fired by Charlotte. and to be honest, it wasnt some braniac risk, was just a coach with a record of solid defense.

This is where I'm at. I hope Chuma turns out to be a stud. I just think it's weird seeing so many posts like "well... I've never heard of the guy but I trust WeHam" I don't think they've done much to earn that yet, but some people seem to see the glass a little more half full with them. If Giannis didn't exist would Hammond even have as a GM?

Even though very little was given up, I thought getting Fultz was a big move. Depending on how it turns out it could’ve been massive.

Even though I’m not one who said it, for me the “I’ve never heard of the guy but I trust Weham”, is less about actually trusting Weham’s general drafting abilities and more about trusting the fact that they know far more about him than someone who knows nothing.

[NotACat]

No more negativity from me. I've vented, I'm over it, and I will not be looking for justification. Spilled milk, let's go Okeke, you have my support.

i dont think anyone doesnt support Okeke. But its okay to question the front office when they only big move they have made was hire Clifford, who was fired by Charlotte. and to be honest, it wasnt some braniac risk, was just a coach with a record of solid defense.

This is where I'm at. I hope Chuma turns out to be a stud. I just think it's weird seeing so many posts like "well... I've never heard of the guy but I trust WeHam" I don't think they've done much to earn that yet, but some people seem to see the glass a little more half full with them. If Giannis didn't exist would Hammond even have as a GM?

They also got Middleton and Brogdan for the Bucks team. The other half of WeltHam contributed to the Toronto team but I don't know to what extent.

For us, they got Fultz at almost no cost except cap space, JI, handled JIs rehab with excellence, revamped all of our players support personal, great analytics and an exclusive deal for college analytics, structured and amazing deal for us with AG, and solidified our bench squad (Birch, Briscoe, Iwundu, and MCW) to help us get to the playoffs.

In addition, all of our players improved from last year, everyone from the FO to coaches to the players are invested and on the same page, we have great team chemistry and morale, we have two significant UFAs who want to return, and no leaks at all.

They've also addressed our largest short coming from last season in Chuma (backup 4 which interrupted the flow with our starting lineup since AG or Isaac regularly had to be staggered). And he has a much greater outlook than just a role player, but he's going to have the opportunity to contribute day 1.

They've established a culture and identity for us when we had none. I think they've done plenty to deserve our trust.

[ezzzp]

No more negativity from me. I've vented, I'm over it, and I will not be looking for justification. Spilled milk, let's go Okeke, you have my support.

i dont think anyone doesnt support Okeke. But its okay to question the front office when they only big move they have made was hire Clifford, who was fired by Charlotte. and to be honest, it wasnt some braniac risk, was just a coach with a record of solid defense.

They have made some bold moves and some very savvy maneuvers:

1 They chose Jonathan Isaac over DSJr.

First two seasons:

Isaac: 12.3 PER / +1.3 VORP / -0.3 BPM / -1.26 RPM / 103 ORtg / 106 DRtg
Smith: 12.6 PER / -0.1 VORP / -2.4 BPM / -2.56 RPM / 94 ORtg / 111 DRtg

Last season:

Isaac: 13.0 PER / +1.1 VORP / +0.1 BPM / -0.44 RPM / 107 ORtg / 106 DRtg
Smith: 12.3 PER / -0.2 VORP / -2.5 BPM / -2.02 RPM / 96 ORtg / 112 DRtg


2 The Aaron Gordon contract was a thing of beauty. In years 3 and 4 of his deal, AG at culmination of his peak ascent (26/27) will be on a 15.9% and 13.7% of cap contract. It will either be a tremendous bargain or an excellent trade asset.

3 Using the only vehicle they had available to them in free agency their first offseason (the MLE), they acquired Jonathon Simmons after a breakout playoff performance. They did so on yet another very team friendly deal. They structured his deal so that it was descending and had final year non-guaranteed...aka excellent trade asset.

They also converted a 25th pick into a future OKC top 20 protected 1st + a future 2nd Rd Pick.

They then consolidated Jonathon Simmons with that OKC pick to land Markelle Fultz, the former #1 pick in 2017. While the result of that asset chain is still undetermined, that is still an impressive conversion of low end assets into a potentially very high value asset.

4 Found Wesley Iwundu in the 2nd Round. Finding a rotation player in the 2nd round is a solid acquisition. Some aren't as high on Wes as I am, but at worse he's an excellent defensive weapon to have coming off the bench.

5 Found Khem Birch in Europe. Expended zero draft assets to acquire a good rotation level asset. RFA so Magic can retain the asset.

6 Found Isaiah Briscoe in Europe. Expended zero draft assets to acquire a roster level asset. UFA but rehabbing with Magic and will likely be part of training camp.

7 Acquired Michael Carter Williams without expending any assets and now have his Bird Rights as he enters UFA.

[zaymon]

Weltman is credited with forcing his idea to draft Siakam. Ujiri said he did everything to keep him.
I dont know who started this notion that our biggest need is a backup guard. I will fight it with all my strength.

Dj/ Fultz
Fournier/ Frazier... Ross
Gordon/ Iwundu
Isaac
Bamba... Vucevic/Birch

5 guards
3 forwards
3 big man

If we are to resign Vucevic, Ross and Birch we needed 1 guard and 3 wings/forwards. We drafted Okeke and signed Jeffries and we still ideally need one wing/forward. If you look at free agency the easiest position to find a bargain is...... guard.

Lamb
Hood
KCP
Rivers
Satoransky
Rubio
Burcks
Bullock
Curry
Green
Joseph
Beverley
Rose
Wright
Brogdon
......
Payton

I didnt even mentioned the biggest fishes. Dont believe in everything media gives you make your own analysis.

[basketballRob]

i dont think anyone doesnt support Okeke. But its okay to question the front office when they only big move they have made was hire Clifford, who was fired by Charlotte. and to be honest, it wasnt some braniac risk, was just a coach with a record of solid defense.

This is where I'm at. I hope Chuma turns out to be a stud. I just think it's weird seeing so many posts like "well... I've never heard of the guy but I trust WeHam" I don't think they've done much to earn that yet, but some people seem to see the glass a little more half full with them. If Giannis didn't exist would Hammond even have as a GM?

They also got Middleton and Brogdan for the Bucks team. The other half of WeltHam contributed to the Toronto team but I don't know to what extent.

For us, they got Fultz at almost no cost except cap space, JI, handled JIs rehab with excellence, revamped all of our players support personal, great analytics and an exclusive deal for college analytics, structured and amazing deal for us with AG, and solidified our bench squad (Birch, Briscoe, Iwundu, and MCW) to help us get to the playoffs.

In addition, all of our players improved from last year, everyone from the FO to coaches to the players are invested and on the same page, we have great team chemistry and morale, we have two significant UFAs who want to return, and no leaks at all.

They've also addressed our largest short coming from last season in Chuma (backup 4 which interrupted the flow with our starting lineup since AG or Isaac regularly had to be staggered). And he has a much greater outlook than just a role player, but he's going to have the opportunity to contribute day 1.

They've established a culture and identity for us when we had none. I think they've done plenty to deserve our trust.

Just noticed Norm Powell was drafted by Hammond in Milwaukee.

[Instincts]

i dont think anyone doesnt support Okeke. But its okay to question the front office when they only big move they have made was hire Clifford, who was fired by Charlotte. and to be honest, it wasnt some braniac risk, was just a coach with a record of solid defense.

This is where I'm at. I hope Chuma turns out to be a stud. I just think it's weird seeing so many posts like "well... I've never heard of the guy but I trust WeHam" I don't think they've done much to earn that yet, but some people seem to see the glass a little more half full with them. If Giannis didn't exist would Hammond even have as a GM?

Even though very little was given up, I thought getting Fultz was a big move. Depending on how it turns out it could’ve been massive.

Even though I’m not one who said it, for me the “I’ve never heard of the guy but I trust Weham”, is less about actually trusting Weham’s general drafting abilities and more about trusting the fact that they know far more about him than someone who knows nothing.

Resigning AG to a team friendly contract was a big move. Drafting Isaac was a big move. I agree, I would also qualify Fultz as a big move.

[DjPuffnStuff]

No more negativity from me. I've vented, I'm over it, and I will not be looking for justification. Spilled milk, let's go Okeke, you have my support.

i dont think anyone doesnt support Okeke. But its okay to question the front office when they only big move they have made was hire Clifford, who was fired by Charlotte. and to be honest, it wasnt some braniac risk, was just a coach with a record of solid defense.

They have made some bold moves and some very savvy maneuvers:

1 They chose Jonathan Isaac over DSJr.

First two seasons:

Isaac: 12.3 PER / +1.3 VORP / -0.3 BPM / -1.26 RPM / 103 ORtg / 106 DRtg
Smith: 12.6 PER / -0.1 VORP / -2.4 BPM / -2.56 RPM / 94 ORtg / 111 DRtg

Last season:

Isaac: 13.0 PER / +1.1 VORP / +0.1 BPM / -0.44 RPM / 107 ORtg / 106 DRtg
Smith: 12.3 PER / -0.2 VORP / -2.5 BPM / -2.02 RPM / 96 ORtg / 112 DRtg


2 The Aaron Gordon contract was a thing of beauty. In years 3 and 4 of his deal, AG at culmination of his peak ascent (26/27) will be on a 15.9% and 13.7% of cap contract. It will either be a tremendous bargain or an excellent trade asset.

3 Using the only vehicle they had available to them in free agency their first offseason (the MLE), they acquired Jonathon Simmons after a breakout playoff performance. They did so on yet another very team friendly deal. They structured his deal so that it was descending and had final year non-guaranteed...aka excellent trade asset.

They also converted a 25th pick into a future OKC top 20 protected 1st + a future 2nd Rd Pick.

They then consolidated Jonathon Simmons with that OKC pick to land Markelle Fultz, the former #1 pick in 2017. While the result of that asset chain is still undetermined, that is still an impressive conversion of low end assets into a potentially very high value asset.

4 Found Wesley Iwundu in the 2nd Round. Finding a rotation player in the 2nd round is a solid acquisition. Some aren't as high on Wes as I am, but at worse he's an excellent defensive weapon to have coming off the bench.

5 Found Khem Birch in Europe. Expended zero draft assets to acquire a good rotation level asset. RFA so Magic can retain the asset.

6 Found Isaiah Briscoe in Europe. Expended zero draft assets to acquire a roster level asset. UFA but rehabbing with Magic and will likely be part of training camp.

7 Acquired Michael Carter Williams without expending any assets and now have his Bird Rights as he enters UFA.

Not to mention that WeltHam was forced to keep Vogel for a year. Luckily they were smart and made it an "evaluation" year. In which the team might have had their worst case of injuries to date. Those injuries could be interpreted as a blessing in disguise.

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[SD2042]

This draft was one of the most unpredictable events the NBA had done in recent memory. Most for the players in this draft from what I've read on and watched videos on come across as role players to me. I was in the camp of trading the pick for a player at least three or four years into the game and is reliable.

To Chume: I did not watch any of his videos nor read his profile until a couple of days ago. From reviewing the videos, the guy does have some talent to be reckon with on both ends. The main point will come down to what his high ceiling will be. I seen the comparisons on this board ranging from Robert Horry to Robert Covington. If those comparisons hold true is the question. He won't be available for the next season. He will be a potential ace in the Magic's sleeve for the future. In the meantime, the Magic need to focus on who to get after in free agency, who to trade, and who to re-sign to the team. Those are the team's main concerns. Keep in mind that a draft pick especially where this team currently is right now cannot be regarded as a savior. He's just another piece to the puzzle as the team's front office continues to build the foundation.

[yoyojw17]

Spoiler:

No more negativity from me. I've vented, I'm over it, and I will not be looking for justification. Spilled milk, let's go Okeke, you have my support.

i dont think anyone doesnt support Okeke. But its okay to question the front office when they only big move they have made was hire Clifford, who was fired by Charlotte. and to be honest, it wasnt some braniac risk, was just a coach with a record of solid defense.

They have made some bold moves and some very savvy maneuvers:

1 They chose Jonathan Isaac over DSJr.

First two seasons:

Isaac: 12.3 PER / +1.3 VORP / -0.3 BPM / -1.26 RPM / 103 ORtg / 106 DRtg
Smith: 12.6 PER / -0.1 VORP / -2.4 BPM / -2.56 RPM / 94 ORtg / 111 DRtg

Last season:

Isaac: 13.0 PER / +1.1 VORP / +0.1 BPM / -0.44 RPM / 107 ORtg / 106 DRtg
Smith: 12.3 PER / -0.2 VORP / -2.5 BPM / -2.02 RPM / 96 ORtg / 112 DRtg


2 The Aaron Gordon contract was a thing of beauty. In years 3 and 4 of his deal, AG at culmination of his peak ascent (26/27) will be on a 15.9% and 13.7% of cap contract. It will either be a tremendous bargain or an excellent trade asset.

3 Using the only vehicle they had available to them in free agency their first offseason (the MLE), they acquired Jonathon Simmons after a breakout playoff performance. They did so on yet another very team friendly deal. They structured his deal so that it was descending and had final year non-guaranteed...aka excellent trade asset.

They also converted a 25th pick into a future OKC top 20 protected 1st + a future 2nd Rd Pick.

They then consolidated Jonathon Simmons with that OKC pick to land Markelle Fultz, the former #1 pick in 2017. While the result of that asset chain is still undetermined, that is still an impressive conversion of low end assets into a potentially very high value asset.

4 Found Wesley Iwundu in the 2nd Round. Finding a rotation player in the 2nd round is a solid acquisition. Some aren't as high on Wes as I am, but at worse he's an excellent defensive weapon to have coming off the bench.

5 Found Khem Birch in Europe. Expended zero draft assets to acquire a good rotation level asset. RFA so Magic can retain the asset.

6 Found Isaiah Briscoe in Europe. Expended zero draft assets to acquire a roster level asset. UFA but rehabbing with Magic and will likely be part of training camp.

7 Acquired Michael Carter Williams without expending any assets and now have his Bird Rights as he enters UFA.

Spoiler:

Weltman is credited with forcing his idea to draft Siakam. Ujiri said he did everything to keep him.
I dont know who started this notion that our biggest need is a backup guard. I will fight it with all my strength.

Dj/ Fultz
Fournier/ Frazier... Ross
Gordon/ Iwundu
Isaac
Bamba... Vucevic/Birch

5 guards
3 forwards
3 big man

If we are to resign Vucevic, Ross and Birch we needed 1 guard and 3 wings/forwards. We drafted Okeke and signed Jeffries and we still ideally need one wing/forward. If you look at free agency the easiest position to find a bargain is...... guard.

Lamb
Hood
KCP
Rivers
Satoransky
Rubio
Burcks
Bullock
Curry
Green
Joseph
Beverley
Rose
Wright
Brogdon
......
Payton

I didnt even mentioned the biggest fishes. Dont believe in everything media gives you make your own analysis.

WeHam has been transparent and deliberate with all of their moves. And agreed.... they might have a plan that's further beyond anything than we can conceive. Just because most of us thought that the SG position was the highest position of need .... doesn't mean that it had to be addressed in the draft. And with that thought solidified ... and people literally making it seem like fournier is utter garbage made that need look like an even bigger hole. Assuming that fournier will have a bounce back season with a healthy fultz.... which is what they are assuming.... makes a strong backcourt and adds a totally different dimension to an already up and coming team... on BOTH ends of the court.

We have no clue how this team will be filled out.... but they have deserved my confidence because i can for once understand which direction this team is going.

[DiplomaticMagic]

I absolutely love the pick, I love that our FO has a vision for our team and are not pressured by media, fans, mock drafts.

I was hoping for Langford but didn't really like the other guards. I probably would've drafted Little or Thybulle but really like Okeke and even more now after draft.

If our FO decides to move on from Vucevic, I am 100% in on what they are building.

[Def Swami]

Spoiler:

i dont think anyone doesnt support Okeke. But its okay to question the front office when they only big move they have made was hire Clifford, who was fired by Charlotte. and to be honest, it wasnt some braniac risk, was just a coach with a record of solid defense.

They have made some bold moves and some very savvy maneuvers:

1 They chose Jonathan Isaac over DSJr.

First two seasons:

Isaac: 12.3 PER / +1.3 VORP / -0.3 BPM / -1.26 RPM / 103 ORtg / 106 DRtg
Smith: 12.6 PER / -0.1 VORP / -2.4 BPM / -2.56 RPM / 94 ORtg / 111 DRtg

Last season:

Isaac: 13.0 PER / +1.1 VORP / +0.1 BPM / -0.44 RPM / 107 ORtg / 106 DRtg
Smith: 12.3 PER / -0.2 VORP / -2.5 BPM / -2.02 RPM / 96 ORtg / 112 DRtg


2 The Aaron Gordon contract was a thing of beauty. In years 3 and 4 of his deal, AG at culmination of his peak ascent (26/27) will be on a 15.9% and 13.7% of cap contract. It will either be a tremendous bargain or an excellent trade asset.

3 Using the only vehicle they had available to them in free agency their first offseason (the MLE), they acquired Jonathon Simmons after a breakout playoff performance. They did so on yet another very team friendly deal. They structured his deal so that it was descending and had final year non-guaranteed...aka excellent trade asset.

They also converted a 25th pick into a future OKC top 20 protected 1st + a future 2nd Rd Pick.

They then consolidated Jonathon Simmons with that OKC pick to land Markelle Fultz, the former #1 pick in 2017. While the result of that asset chain is still undetermined, that is still an impressive conversion of low end assets into a potentially very high value asset.

4 Found Wesley Iwundu in the 2nd Round. Finding a rotation player in the 2nd round is a solid acquisition. Some aren't as high on Wes as I am, but at worse he's an excellent defensive weapon to have coming off the bench.

5 Found Khem Birch in Europe. Expended zero draft assets to acquire a good rotation level asset. RFA so Magic can retain the asset.

6 Found Isaiah Briscoe in Europe. Expended zero draft assets to acquire a roster level asset. UFA but rehabbing with Magic and will likely be part of training camp.

7 Acquired Michael Carter Williams without expending any assets and now have his Bird Rights as he enters UFA.

Spoiler:

Weltman is credited with forcing his idea to draft Siakam. Ujiri said he did everything to keep him.
I dont know who started this notion that our biggest need is a backup guard. I will fight it with all my strength.

Dj/ Fultz
Fournier/ Frazier... Ross
Gordon/ Iwundu
Isaac
Bamba... Vucevic/Birch

5 guards
3 forwards
3 big man

If we are to resign Vucevic, Ross and Birch we needed 1 guard and 3 wings/forwards. We drafted Okeke and signed Jeffries and we still ideally need one wing/forward. If you look at free agency the easiest position to find a bargain is...... guard.

Lamb
Hood
KCP
Rivers
Satoransky
Rubio
Burcks
Bullock
Curry
Green
Joseph
Beverley
Rose
Wright
Brogdon
......
Payton

I didnt even mentioned the biggest fishes. Dont believe in everything media gives you make your own analysis.

WeHam has been transparent and deliberate with all of their moves. And agreed.... they might have a plan that's further beyond anything than we can conceive. Just because most of us thought that the SG position was the highest position of need .... doesn't mean that it had to be addressed in the draft. And with that thought solidified ... and people literally making it seem like fournier is utter garbage made that need look like an even bigger hole. Assuming that fournier will have a bounce back season with a healthy fultz.... which is what they are assuming.... makes a strong backcourt and adds a totally different dimension to an already up and coming team... on BOTH ends of the court.

We have no clue how this team will be filled out.... but they have deserved my confidence because i can for once understand which direction this team is going.

That's kind of the problem though. This plan relies on a lot of hope without much objective evidence that it will occur.

[OrlandoSaban]

Grant Hill 2.0

[tiderulz]

Grant Hill 2.0

i dont go that far. His was just a basic ACL tear, not all the stuff that Hill had. I expect him completely healthy by end of next year and think he will be a good player. just creates further log jam