Offseason Thread: The Waiting is the Hardest Part

[newyorker4ever]

DLo as a floor general, playmaker and a guy who can create shots for himself and others is still a valuable player. KP wasnt efficient either, had stamina issues, durability issues, had trouble guarding big centers in the paint, had trouble guarding smaller forwards on the perimeter. Yeah he brought weak side shot blocking but dude would get cooked plenty of times against certain matchups. He had plenty of weaknesses and queation marks.

sure he had question marks. but he shot 40% 3 pt shooter and was an elite rim protector in his last stages before his injury.

Dlo is a sub 42% shooter with less than a 2 to 1 assist to turnover ration...what am I missing?

he's a good player that had a good year...he isn't worth investing max $$ on...no way in hell

The 40% shooter is a bit misleading. He shot 45% and then declined hard & fast. He is not fast or strong or even talented enough to be great imo. He’a a poor finisher inside. I always think you have to pay close attention to a young big’s finishing. If it’s not good then be worried.

Well Sexton can only shoot a little better than DSJ right K-Dot? Just a little bit....lol

[Chanel Bomber]

Kawhi.

thebuzzardman's fantasy is fine and all, but actually really wrong, I think, after chewing it all over.

It would be terrible for Kawhi and for all of us wanting to see the soulless destroyer ring again. And terrible for the Knicks because: why 35-45 wins? What's the point?

There's more suffering to be done aorn. There has to be more internal development before trying to jump to the answers at the end of the book.

Agreed. All we can do is hope they rip the band-aid off fast and sign elsewhere soon so we can focus on the rebuild.

I see the logic but disagree. Kawhi still young and dominant — he elevates the yutes too. You just speed up your success.

We can find a Siakam and some depth. Knox can get there and we have other guys.

Kawhi and Mitch would be sicko.

Siakam is one of the most talented players in the league and he's only getting better. Guys like him are incredibly hard to find.

Don't forget Kawhi had a lot of proven and battle-tested veterans around him in Toronto. Guys like Gasol, Lowry, Green and Ibaka with a lot of playoff experience, and some youth and athleticism sprinkled in.

Mitch is nowhere near ready. He gets a pass for his mistakes because he was a second round pick surpassing every expectation in a lost season where the Knicks didn't play a single game that mattered. At this stage in their careers, Mitch and Gasol are playing a completely different sport. 3-4 years from now, this could be a different conversation.

I'm all for signing Kawhi by the way. I just think your expectations might be a little too high.

[3toheadmelo]

Just roll with DSJR at the point and add 2 more young players with potential. I’m officially out on adding Kyrie and KD ..

As long as we don’t hinder our chances at getting a max player a year or 2 from now I’m ok with taking a risk on a few players

Welcome to team Smiff..

[newyorker4ever]

Just roll with DSJR at the point and add 2 more young players with potential. I’m officially out on adding Kyrie and KD ..

As long as we don’t hinder our chances at getting a max player a year or 2 from now I’m ok with taking a risk on a few players

Welcome to team STiff..

FIFY

[snadler]

Just roll with DSJR at the point and add 2 more young players with potential. I’m officially out on adding Kyrie and KD ..

As long as we don’t hinder our chances at getting a max player a year or 2 from now I’m ok with taking a risk on a few players

Welcome to team Smiff..

I’m still all for KD and Kyrie, however if those guys aren’t coming, I’d rather win 25 games paying DSJ rookie scale then paying DLo max win 30-33 games..

[Juco24]

kyrie puts up better stats than conley. that's the only reason that someone might think kyrie is better than conley. if you're able to look beyond stats, it's easy and clear to see why conley is a better PG than kyrie, at least if you need a floor general and want to win.

kyrie can score, that's about it.

lol people think this is aau ....you have to play defense and Kyrie's defense is not good...

yeah, not sure why people would want kyrie on the knicks. he'd do more harm than good. not sure if that's what the OP was saying, though.

i was just correcting the notion, belief, or myth, that kyrie is better than conley at basketball

I've yet to find an article or evidence that Conley is a better PG... but okay. And for the record I never petitioned Kyrie to the Knicks (especially as the lone FA signing- talk about epic fail!).

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/washington-wizards/top-10-point-guards-nba-right-now-steph-curry-russell-westbrook-golden-state-warriors-los-angeles-clippers-washington-wizards#slide-1

https://uproxx.com/dimemag/best-points-guards-nba-ranked-stephen-curry-kyrie-irving-russell-westbrook/3/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2792524-ranking-nbas-top-15-point-guards-entering-2018-19-season.amp.html

[robillionaire]

I'm not even entertaining the idea of Kawhi coming here

[snadler]

I'm not even entertaining the idea of Kawhi coming here

I don’t think anyone really was

[N Y K]

What pf is on a bad contract with one year left that is also on a team that will give us a pick or two to take him off their hands?

I'd like that.

[Chanel Bomber]

Just roll with DSJR at the point and add 2 more young players with potential. I’m officially out on adding Kyrie and KD ..

As long as we don’t hinder our chances at getting a max player a year or 2 from now I’m ok with taking a risk on a few players

Welcome to team Smiff..

I’m still all for KD and Kyrie, however if those guys aren’t coming, I’d rather win 25 games paying DSJ rookie scale then paying DLo max win 30-33 games..

Fair point.

Russell is only 23 so he still has upside. Which means he can still grow with our younger players. He fits their timeline. We might win max 30-33 games next season, but he would be another valuable young player who could raise our ceiling significantly 2 or 3 years from now.

The D'Angelo Russell question is a tough one, especially for the money he's gonna cost, but he would for sure make this young core even more intriguing.

[stuporman]

Maxcat waiting......

[DOT]

Well Sexton can only shoot a little better than DSJ right K-Dot? Just a little bit....lol

I don't even see Sexton or DSJ mentioned in any of the posts leading up to this, so I'm gonna assume this is bait. Pretty poorly done, too

[3toheadmelo]

Just roll with DSJR at the point and add 2 more young players with potential. I’m officially out on adding Kyrie and KD ..

As long as we don’t hinder our chances at getting a max player a year or 2 from now I’m ok with taking a risk on a few players

Welcome to team STiff..

FIFY

Is that the best joke you came up with lol. Come on man..I’ve seen better

[snadler]

Welcome to team Smiff..

I’m still all for KD and Kyrie, however if those guys aren’t coming, I’d rather win 25 games paying DSJ rookie scale then paying DLo max win 30-33 games..

Fair point.

Russell is only 23 so he still has upside. Which means he can still grow with our younger players. He fits their timeline. We might win max 30-33 games next season, but he would be another valuable young player who could raise our ceiling significantly 2 or 3 years from now.

The D'Angelo Russell question is a tough one, especially for the money he's gonna cost, but he would for sure make this young core even more intriguing.

To me that just not worth max money..I know that’s the market for him, but I’d rather leave the space open for a superstar then sign a good player to ma

[DowNY]

I'm not even entertaining the idea of Kawhi coming here

I don’t think anyone really was

Have you not met 2010?

[thebuzzardman]

Won't commit to DLo but were ready to pay KP 30 mil a year as if KP is some huge impact player that was gonna bring us a chip

Pretty sure we traded that guy away but I'll double check

[Clyde_Style]

I’ve been so busy all weekend but what’s the newest rumors

A poster named Hinkie blew a stinkie and Sham exposed them for the fraud they are.

That's about it

[K_ick_God]

The idea of who KP could become isn't the reality of who he really was up to the point of his injury. He was about to get 30 mil a year for potential, not for being a proven superstar

He’s a highly risky Max. If you can take him out with physical play from a midget that’s a bad sign.

[3toheadmelo]

Welcome to team Smiff..

I’m still all for KD and Kyrie, however if those guys aren’t coming, I’d rather win 25 games paying DSJ rookie scale then paying DLo max win 30-33 games..

Fair point.

Russell is only 23 so he still has upside. Which means he can still grow with our younger players. He fits their timeline. We might win max 30-33 games next season, but he would be another valuable young player who could raise our ceiling significantly 2 or 3 years from now.

The D'Angelo Russell question is a tough one, especially for the money he's gonna cost, but he would for sure make this young core even more intriguing.

Russell is for sure a good player and I do get why people are intrigued by him, but imo I don’t think it makes sense to max him out when we have DSJ who has similar upside on a much cheaper contract

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Worst case scenario let’s say DSJ regresses next year, we can draft a PG in next years draft which is guard heavy in the lottery.

[Clyde_Style]

Maxcat waiting......