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Offseason Thread: The Waiting is the Hardest Part

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Re: Offseason Thread: The Waiting is the Hardest Part 

Post#81 » by Chanel Bomber » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:13 am

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I’m still all for KD and Kyrie, however if those guys aren’t coming, I’d rather win 25 games paying DSJ rookie scale then paying DLo max win 30-33 games..

Fair point.

Russell is only 23 so he still has upside. Which means he can still grow with our younger players. He fits their timeline. We might win max 30-33 games next season, but he would be another valuable young player who could raise our ceiling significantly 2 or 3 years from now.

The D'Angelo Russell question is a tough one, especially for the money he's gonna cost, but he would for sure make this young core even more intriguing.


To me that just not worth max money..I know that’s the market for him, but I’d rather leave the space open for a superstar then sign a good player to ma

Out of curiosity, which superstar do you see potentially signing here in the future if we strike out this offseason? And why?
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Re: Offseason Thread: The Waiting is the Hardest Part 

Post#82 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:13 am

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:Kawhi.

thebuzzardman's fantasy is fine and all, but actually really wrong, I think, after chewing it all over.

It would be terrible for Kawhi and for all of us wanting to see the soulless destroyer ring again. And terrible for the Knicks because: why 35-45 wins? What's the point?

There's more suffering to be done aorn. There has to be more internal development before trying to jump to the answers at the end of the book.

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Re: Offseason Thread: The Waiting is the Hardest Part 

Post#83 » by Stannis » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:14 am

Has D. Jordan been talked about much? I think he comes back before Vonleh, Mario, or Mudiay.
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Re: Offseason Thread: The Waiting is the Hardest Part 

Post#84 » by DowNY » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:15 am

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Re: Offseason Thread: The Waiting is the Hardest Part 

Post#85 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:15 am

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HEZI wrote:The idea of who KP could become isn't the reality of who he really was up to the point of his injury. He was about to get 30 mil a year for potential, not for being a proven superstar


He’s a highly risky Max. If you can take him out with physical play from a midget that’s a bad sign.

Giannis is a midget??? KP got submarined by a midget?

What is going on in the minds of people who post like this?
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Re: Offseason Thread: The Waiting is the Hardest Part 

Post#86 » by DowNY » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:16 am

Stannis wrote:Has D. Jordan been talked about much? I think he comes back before Vonleh, Mario, or Mudiay.

I heard his name recently with the Lakers
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Re: Offseason Thread: The Waiting is the Hardest Part 

Post#87 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:19 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:Kawhi.

thebuzzardman's fantasy is fine and all, but actually really wrong, I think, after chewing it all over.

It would be terrible for Kawhi and for all of us wanting to see the soulless destroyer ring again. And terrible for the Knicks because: why 35-45 wins? What's the point?

There's more suffering to be done aorn. There has to be more internal development before trying to jump to the answers at the end of the book.

So you're not ok with the two oiled lesbian dwarves?

I'd want to see film of them working out.
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Re: Offseason Thread: The Waiting is the Hardest Part 

Post#88 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:20 am

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:
HEZI wrote:The idea of who KP could become isn't the reality of who he really was up to the point of his injury. He was about to get 30 mil a year for potential, not for being a proven superstar


He’s a highly risky Max. If you can take him out with physical play from a midget that’s a bad sign.

Giannis is a midget??? KP got submarined by a midget?

What is going on in the minds of people who post like this?

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Re: Offseason Thread: The Waiting is the Hardest Part 

Post#89 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:22 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:
He’s a highly risky Max. If you can take him out with physical play from a midget that’s a bad sign.

Giannis is a midget??? KP got submarined by a midget?

What is going on in the minds of people who post like this?

Oh! Midgets!

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Re: Offseason Thread: The Waiting is the Hardest Part 

Post#90 » by newyorker4ever » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:24 am

N Y K wrote:What pf is on a bad contract with one year left that is also on a team that will give us a pick or two to take him off their hands?

I'd like that.


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Re: Offseason Thread: The Waiting is the Hardest Part 

Post#91 » by Clyde_Style » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:24 am

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:Kawhi.

thebuzzardman's fantasy is fine and all, but actually really wrong, I think, after chewing it all over.

It would be terrible for Kawhi and for all of us wanting to see the soulless destroyer ring again. And terrible for the Knicks because: why 35-45 wins? What's the point?

There's more suffering to be done aorn. There has to be more internal development before trying to jump to the answers at the end of the book.

So you're not ok with the two oiled lesbian dwarves?

I'd want to see film of them working out.


I've invited them to scrimmage on my home court :eyebrows: :droop:
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Re: Offseason Thread: The Waiting is the Hardest Part 

Post#92 » by HEZI » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:25 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:
snadler wrote:
I’m still all for KD and Kyrie, however if those guys aren’t coming, I’d rather win 25 games paying DSJ rookie scale then paying DLo max win 30-33 games..

Fair point.

Russell is only 23 so he still has upside. Which means he can still grow with our younger players. He fits their timeline. We might win max 30-33 games next season, but he would be another valuable young player who could raise our ceiling significantly 2 or 3 years from now.

The D'Angelo Russell question is a tough one, especially for the money he's gonna cost, but he would for sure make this young core even more intriguing.

Russell is for sure a good player and I do get why people are intrigued by him, but imo I don’t think it makes sense to max him out when we have DSJ who has similar upside on a much cheaper contract

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Worst case scenario let’s say DSJ regresses next year, we can draft a PG in next years draft which is guard heavy in the lottery.


Ok so lets say DSJ lives up to that potential, what do we do when he asks for the max?
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Re: Offseason Thread: The Waiting is the Hardest Part 

Post#93 » by newyorker4ever » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:26 am

K-DOT wrote:
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Well Sexton can only shoot a little better than DSJ right K-Dot? Just a little bit....lol

I don't even see Sexton or DSJ mentioned in any of the posts leading up to this, so I'm gonna assume this is bait. Pretty poorly done, too


So you've forgotten so quickly after the last offseason thread was closed? You should go to the doctor and get that checked out.
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Re: Offseason Thread: The Waiting is the Hardest Part 

Post#94 » by newyorker4ever » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:26 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:Welcome to team STiff.. 8-)
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Re: Offseason Thread: The Waiting is the Hardest Part 

Post#95 » by ADeP7 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:28 am

3totheheadmelo question for you. What’s your ideal offseason then. Let’s say kawhi kd is off the table.

Obviously you want dsj here so who do you target
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Re: Offseason Thread: The Waiting is the Hardest Part 

Post#96 » by newyorker4ever » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:29 am

Stannis wrote:Has D. Jordan been talked about much? I think he comes back before Vonleh, Mario, or Mudiay.


Last i heard the Lakers were gonna go after him or B.Lopez.
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Re: Offseason Thread: The Waiting is the Hardest Part 

Post#97 » by HEZI » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:30 am

Y'all swear our young players are gonna break out and we will keep them on rookie contracts their whole career. If they break out they will look to get paid. Are people not aware of this?
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Re: Offseason Thread: The Waiting is the Hardest Part 

Post#98 » by robillionaire » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:30 am

HEZI wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:Fair point.

Russell is only 23 so he still has upside. Which means he can still grow with our younger players. He fits their timeline. We might win max 30-33 games next season, but he would be another valuable young player who could raise our ceiling significantly 2 or 3 years from now.

The D'Angelo Russell question is a tough one, especially for the money he's gonna cost, but he would for sure make this young core even more intriguing.

Russell is for sure a good player and I do get why people are intrigued by him, but imo I don’t think it makes sense to max him out when we have DSJ who has similar upside on a much cheaper contract

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Worst case scenario let’s say DSJ regresses next year, we can draft a PG in next years draft which is guard heavy in the lottery.


Ok so lets say DSJ lives up to that potential, what do we do when he asks for the max?


in that hypothetical scenario where DSJ makes an all star team in the next 2 years, yes, give him the max, we could go over the cap to give it to him by then
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Re: Offseason Thread: The Waiting is the Hardest Part 

Post#99 » by newyorker4ever » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:31 am

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Said Keith Bogans guarding up :lol:



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Re: Offseason Thread: The Waiting is the Hardest Part 

Post#100 » by ChaosHamster » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:31 am

Where is all that DLo noise even coming from?

So I watched a bunch of Nets games last year, and Dlo was nothing special like until January. When LeVert was healthy at the beginning - he sucked hard, and LeVert was the clear cut best player, then he goes down and Atkinson starts to run DLo and Dinwiddie line-ups more often, BUT, frequently in the 4th, DLO sits on the bench because he can't guard anyone and turns the ball over a ton.

Then somewhere around January, dude just explodes. His game is super fun to watch. He has zero speed, like none. Frank might be more explosive than him. But he is maestro with the ball. All those changes of speed, fakeouts, crossovers.. he has to find ways to get a decent look without using his speed. His size, tho, often helps too.

So he just starts hitting every pull-up three and shoots like 50%+ from mid-range. He doesn't take free-throws and doesn't get to the rim.(red flag for efficiency nerds) If his shot is falling, he looks amazing. He is a good passer, with all the noise about his passing pre-draft, I thought he would be better. But nah, hes alright, likely even good. But not elite. His defense is atrocious, he is slow, falls asleep a ton, overall just terrible.

In the play-offs he sucked. But to be fair, Simmons is probably the worst match-up for him in the league. Hes fast, big, strong. DLo couldn't to anything. The question here is, would every team be able to put a big wing on him, who isn't that fast (you don't need to be against DLO), but is big and will just follow DLo around.

You probably give him the max. Just hope his shooting is real, maybe he improves even more. But a young players of his caliber just gets the max.

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