Offseason Thread: The Waiting is the Hardest Part

[HEZI]

Russell is for sure a good player and I do get why people are intrigued by him, but imo I don’t think it makes sense to max him out when we have DSJ who has similar upside on a much cheaper contract

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Worst case scenario let’s say DSJ regresses next year, we can draft a PG in next years draft which is guard heavy in the lottery.

Ok so lets say DSJ lives up to that potential, what do we do when he asks for the max?

in that hypothetical scenario where DSJ makes an all star team in the next 2 years, yes, give him the max, we could go over the cap to give it to him by then

As opposed to getting assets for him now and maxing out a more proven player then turning those assets into something else later?

[DOT]

Well Sexton can only shoot a little better than DSJ right K-Dot? Just a little bit....lol

I don't even see Sexton or DSJ mentioned in any of the posts leading up to this, so I'm gonna assume this is bait. Pretty poorly done, too

So you've forgotten so quickly after the last offseason thread was closed? You should go to the doctor and get that checked out.

You jumped into a conversation about D-Lo where neither Sexton nor DSJ had been mentioned. It's pretty clear what you were trying to do. Didn't even quote me, just said my name

[Richard4444]

You could go and sign dlo Russell and get a guy who can grow with Barrett Mitch knox trier.
He’s gonna make 27 mil on the max. Sign remaining free agents to one year deals.

You have dsj you can move as an asset and have 40-45 mil to spend again in 2020 free agency

Much less than that. WE should have more players in the books (Ignas, Kris) and a 2020 FRP Cap Hold. Besides, I hope we keep Vonleh and Kadeem with good contracts (multi-years deal on the books or at least a Cap Hold after another one year deal).

[newyorker4ever]

I don't even see Sexton or DSJ mentioned in any of the posts leading up to this, so I'm gonna assume this is bait. Pretty poorly done, too

So you've forgotten so quickly after the last offseason thread was closed? You should go to the doctor and get that checked out.

You jumped into a conversation about D-Lo where neither Sexton nor DSJ had been mentioned. It's pretty clear what you were trying to do. Didn't even quote me, just said my name

Wait who are you again?

[robillionaire]

Ok so lets say DSJ lives up to that potential, what do we do when he asks for the max?

in that hypothetical scenario where DSJ makes an all star team in the next 2 years, yes, give him the max, we could go over the cap to give it to him by then

As opposed to getting assets for him now and maxing out a more proven player then turning those assets into something else later?

Still yes, because we will be in development mode next year and we can get better assets through the draft, younger players fit our timeline better, all our players are multiple years away from where we need to be, there's no reason to sign a more proven player

[HerSports85]

The difference between keeping DSJR and singing D Lo is ...

DSJR still gives us the ability to sign 2 max cats for 2 years while developing with our young core. And if he become a star we can go over the cap to re-sign him

You sign DLO ands we only have, maybe 40 mil.

[3toheadmelo]

3totheheadmelo question for you. What’s your ideal offseason then. Let’s say kawhi kd is off the table.

Obviously you want dsj here so who do you target

Probably just go after Randle but only less than the max. If no Randle then just sign 1 year deals and tank

[robillionaire]

The difference between keeping DSJR and singing D Lo is ...

DSJR still gives us the ability to sign 2 max cats for 2 years while developing with our young core. And if he become a star we can go over the cap to re-sign him

You sign DLO ands we only have, maybe 40 mil.

yeah, this

[3toheadmelo]

The difference between keeping DSJR and singing D Lo is ...

DSJR still gives us the ability to sign 2 max cats for 2 years while developing with our young core. And if he become a star we can go over the cap to re-sign him

You sign DLO ands we only have, maybe 40 mil.

Nailed it

[robillionaire]

3totheheadmelo question for you. What’s your ideal offseason then. Let’s say kawhi kd is off the table.

Obviously you want dsj here so who do you target

Probably just go after Randle but only less than the max. If no Randle then just sign 1 year deals and tank

i wouldn't bring him in for more than a 2 year deal and I like Randle

[Clyde_Style]

Y'all swear our young players are gonna break out and we will keep them on rookie contracts their whole career. If they break out they will look to get paid. Are people not aware of this?

Well damn, look at you dropping those knowledge bombs on us peasant folk

[DowNY]

DLo here wouldn’t mesh with RJ, who does everything DLo with much more athleticism.

[DOT]

So you've forgotten so quickly after the last offseason thread was closed? You should go to the doctor and get that checked out.

You jumped into a conversation about D-Lo where neither Sexton nor DSJ had been mentioned. It's pretty clear what you were trying to do. Didn't even quote me, just said my name

Wait who are you again?

Well Sexton can only shoot a little better than DSJ right K-Dot? Just a little bit....lol

So you've forgotten so quickly? You should go to the doctor and get that checked out.

[HEZI]

in that hypothetical scenario where DSJ makes an all star team in the next 2 years, yes, give him the max, we could go over the cap to give it to him by then

As opposed to getting assets for him now and maxing out a more proven player then turning those assets into something else later?

Still yes, because we will be in development mode next year and we can get better assets through the draft, younger players fit our timeline better, all our players are multiple years away from where we need to be, there's no reason to sign a more proven player

We really talking about a 23 vs 21 year old right now? Like a 23 year old doesnt fit our timeline now?

If you get a pick for DSJ that's another draft asset so you lose nothing there. We got a bunch of picks over the next few years anyway that would just add more to it while in the meantime actually trying to build a team. Tanking is dead especially with the new odds so I hope we arent looking to do that again

[thebuzzardman]

Won't commit to DLo but were ready to pay KP 30 mil a year as if KP is some huge impact player that was gonna bring us a chip

difference was KP effected both ends of the floor. Healthy, he had a legit shot of being a superstar. D-lo is not a efficient shot taker or maker and he doesn't play defense. U don't invest longterm in that.

Also, while as fans we may have been willing to max out KP, the Knicks FO apparently decided he wasn't worth the max.

[3toheadmelo]

3totheheadmelo question for you. What’s your ideal offseason then. Let’s say kawhi kd is off the table.

Obviously you want dsj here so who do you target

Probably just go after Randle but only less than the max. If no Randle then just sign 1 year deals and tank

i wouldn't bring him in for more than a 2 year deal and I like Randle

I feel u. I’m cool with missing out on Randle

[Clyde_Style]

As opposed to getting assets for him now and maxing out a more proven player then turning those assets into something else later?

Still yes, because we will be in development mode next year and we can get better assets through the draft, younger players fit our timeline better, all our players are multiple years away from where we need to be, there's no reason to sign a more proven player

We really talking about a 23 vs 21 year old right now? Like a 23 year old doesnt fit our timeline now?

If you get a pick for DSJ that's another draft asset so you lose nothing there. We got a bunch of picks over the next few years anyway that would just add more to it while in the meantime actually trying to build a team. Tanking is dead especially with the new odds so I hope we arent looking to do that again

I'm pretty sure our tanking days are behind us.

I'd rather win 30 games and have a shot at a high pick again, but compete every game until our players mature and this becomes a contender.

If we don't make the playoffs we might still draft high with a little luck so it makes no sense to tank again.

[HEZI]

The difference between keeping DSJR and singing D Lo is ...

DSJR still gives us the ability to sign 2 max cats for 2 years while developing with our young core. And if he become a star we can go over the cap to re-sign him

You sign DLO ands we only have, maybe 40 mil.

I asked this question earlier but ill ask again, who's coming? What max cats? The one dude who wanted to come is damaged now. The only other one worth talking about is AD. Nobody else is moving the needle.

[dakomish23]

Man. Who would have thought this time last year that this board would have people arguing in favor of DLo over KP

[robillionaire]

As opposed to getting assets for him now and maxing out a more proven player then turning those assets into something else later?

Still yes, because we will be in development mode next year and we can get better assets through the draft, younger players fit our timeline better, all our players are multiple years away from where we need to be, there's no reason to sign a more proven player

We really talking about a 23 vs 21 year old right now? Like a 23 year old doesnt fit our timeline now?

If you get a pick for DSJ that's another draft asset so you lose nothing there. We got a bunch of picks over the next few years anyway that would just add more to it while in the meantime actually trying to build a team. Tanking is dead especially with the new odds so I hope we arent looking to do that again

Could you get a pick for DSJ? The Mavericks tried before they traded him here and they couldn't. As far as tanking goes we just got RJ Barrett and I'm really happy about it so it's going to be hard to convince me we can't get a good player through the draft especially in a deeper draft like next year