2019 Offseason Thread

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Hornets can upgrade rim protect and create space for new front court players.

Trade:

Gilchrist, Williams, Biyombo, and Monk

For

Whiteside and Ryan Anderson

Post Kemba new regime re-organizing.

pass

[LofJ]

Tankathon has their 2020 mock up, so if/when Kemba leaves feel free to use it to daydream about the Hornets finally getting the number 1 pick. They currently have the Hornets finishing with the 6th worst record.

[Braggins]

So, based on nothing and also not sure this is possible.

Nic and Willy for Wiggins (rumored to be interested) and future 1st.
Sign Rubio for MLE. If we dont have it get McConnell, he should be cheap.
Sign Frank, or someone similar. Motiejunas?

Kemba-Rubio-Graham
Wiggins-Monk-Bacon
Miles-Martin-McDaniels
PJ-Marvin-MKG
Cody-Frank-Biz

Feel like thats a pretty good well-rounded team. Not sure about the Wiggins trade though, feels gross but Nic is grosser maybe. Any other SG's on less terrible deals?

I wouldn't do the Wiggins trade, but I like the setup in general. Im fine with starting Bacon and seeing what hes got. If he can continue to be solid to above average on defense and hit 3s then he is worth giving a shot to develop.

I'm 100% on board with bringing back Frank on a cheap 1+1 deal to let him rebuild value and signing Rubio.

opening day

Kemba/Rubio/Graham
Bacon/Monk/Martin
Miles/MKG/Mcdaniels
Marv/Batum/PJ
Cody/Frank/Biz

playoffs

Kemba/Rubio/Graham
Bacon/Monk/Martin
Miles/MKG/Mcdaniels
Marv/PJ/Batum
Cody/Frank/Biz

If Rubio isn't an option then maybe some combo of Graham and Martin can be ready to fill in by the end of the season and if Frank leaves you can slot Marv into the backup center slot once PJ is ready. I think the roster is starting to round out nicely tbh.

[driveandkick]

Tankathon has their 2020 mock up, so if/when Kemba leaves feel free to use it to daydream about the Hornets finally getting the number 1 pick. They currently have the Hornets finishing with the 6th worst record.

Even if Kemba stays we could very well be worse this year than the last few. Lamb is a huge loss

[LofJ]

Tankathon has their 2020 mock up, so if/when Kemba leaves feel free to use it to daydream about the Hornets finally getting the number 1 pick. They currently have the Hornets finishing with the 6th worst record.

Even if Kemba stays we could very well be worse this year than the last few. Lamb is a huge loss

I think the improvement of Bridges and Bacon will make up for his loss. MKG, Biz, Willy, and Monk will all be playing for their careers as well. As a whole the team should be a lot more motivated.

[Great]

The chemistry will be super awkward with or without Walker unless the roster gets shook up.

Remnants of a failed regime successfully existing with the new regime, not elements for a winning chemistry/culture.

In video games it can work, not in real life.

The continued lack of rim protection/interior defense at the 5 will kill the mojo.

[Robot Rock]

Predict the opening night starting lineup.

If Kemba re-signs:

C: Zeller
PF: Marvin
SF: MKG
SG: Batum
PG: Kemba

If not:

C: Zeller
PF: Marvin
SF: MKG
SG: Batum
PG: Graham

[LofJ]

Predict the opening night starting lineup.

If Kemba re-signs:

C: Zeller
PF: Marvin
SF: MKG
SG: Batum
PG: Kemba

If not:

C: Zeller
PF: Marvin
SF: MKG
SG: Batum
PG: Graham

Unless MKG dominates training camp I doubt he'll be starting, he might not even be on the team come the season opener. I think it's a safe bet that Bridges will come out of training camp as a starter and I think Bacon might as well.

PG: Kemba
SG: Bacon
SF: Bridges
PF: Williams
C: Zeller

If Kemba leaves who knows what our starting lineup will be. I think we would trade for a stopgap guy like Schroder, but I wouldn't be surprised if Mitch wants to see if Monk is worth investing in or not by giving him a chance.

[Chapelchilla]

Tankathon has their 2020 mock up, so if/when Kemba leaves feel free to use it to daydream about the Hornets finally getting the number 1 pick. They currently have the Hornets finishing with the 6th worst record.

Even if Kemba stays we could very well be worse this year than the last few. Lamb is a huge loss

Lamb is an average NBA 2 guard. We can get another dude who does- what he does Maybe Bacon, maybe not until 2020 when the bad contracts start to end but Lamb is not irreplaceable.

We won't be great next year either way, it's a purgatory season but hopefully the last

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

I'm cautiously optimistic that Kemba re-signs. I'm mostly expecting Lamb to be gone. I think that the most likely scenario cap wise is that Biz is waived & stretched, but there could be some kind of cap saving trade in the works.

[LofJ]

If Mitch stretches Biz he better hope one of the 2nd round guys he drafts becomes a real difference maker. That's a lot of money to spend for a few 2nd round picks.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Meh. The team has to sign a minimum number of guys anyway. It was either 2nd rounders or cheap free agents. I don't see the draft as having much to do with it.

[KingCat]

Tankathon has their 2020 mock up, so if/when Kemba leaves feel free to use it to daydream about the Hornets finally getting the number 1 pick. They currently have the Hornets finishing with the 6th worst record.

Even if Kemba stays we could very well be worse this year than the last few. Lamb is a huge loss

I think the improvement of Bridges and Bacon will make up for his loss. MKG, Biz, Willy, and Monk will all be playing for their careers as well. As a whole the team should be a lot more motivated.

I figured this fanbase would have stopped assuming that their young players would automatically improve over an offseason. This lesson should have been learned from guys like Felton, Morrison,Biz, MKG, Zeller, Kaminsky, and maybe even Monk this previous season. If we as fans go into next season expecting our young guys to make a leap large enough to be contributors on a playoff team, then there will be a lot of disappoint. If our front office does not make changes to the roster because they assume the youngster will make a leap large enough to be contributors on a playoff team then they should all get fired. Im my mind, our young guys are essentially the same players they were last season and my mind will not change till I see them take the court again.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Maybe ... just maybe ... folks are looking at the end of last season where Bridges and Bacon played more and the team did well. Expecting a *small* improvement from that isn't being wildly optimistic, especially given the new emphasis on player development by the current front office and coaching staff.

[KingCat]

Maybe ... just maybe ... folks are looking at the end of last season where Bridges and Bacon played more and the team did well. Expecting a *small* improvement from that isn't being wildly optimistic, especially given the new emphasis on player development by the current front office and coaching staff.

Well you can go ahead and do that. I am not a fan of assuming how a whole season will go based off of a fairly small small size at the end of the previous season.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Maybe ... just maybe ... folks are looking at the end of last season where Bridges and Bacon played more and the team did well. Expecting a *small* improvement from that isn't being wildly optimistic, especially given the new emphasis on player development by the current front office and coaching staff.

Well you can go ahead and do that. I am not a fan of assuming how a whole season will go based off of a fairly small small size at the end of the previous season.

Personally I expect Bacon to be about the same as last year scoring wise (in terms of points per possession), but am hopeful that he can keep up the slightly improved passing we saw late last season. That extra dimension alone will be enough to keep him on the floor under Borrego IMHO.

I expect that Bridges will have an uneven season if Kemba is back. The league now has a year of NBA film to build custom scouting reports and defensive tweaks for. This is a major reason that many rookies struggle in year 2 unless they are either really good or can add something new to their game. Bridges improvement will require him to either improve at everything (unlikely), improve one specific thing (like his long range accuracy), or to add something we haven't seen yet to his game. This summer will be our first indicator if he's a guy who can do that.

Mostly I'm hoping that together they can be good enough to keep Nic off the court - since he is frequently such a net negative.

[GiggitySmalls]

Any chance of cauly Stein? I think he would be a good starting center for us.

[Great]

Even if Bacon and Bridges improve, the teams growth and chemistry/moral won’t Improve.

There is no balance.

There is redundancy and those players aren’t great at any one thing and very good at another thing.

Weak interior presence on both ends.

Add to this the mix of regimes and agendas that come with, it’s a mess.

[Rays Pompadour]

Win.

Cures a whole host of anxieties. No more hoping for lottery luck. No more hand-wringing about being a free agent destination. Small market, schmall market.

Win, and free agents will want to come to Charlotte. Win and the biggest question about the draft pick will be if the rookie should be a draft-or-stash or a g-league throw of the dart. Win and everybody makes money.

Someone, for the love of Mike, please come up with a plan that results in the Hornets winning. And, please, don't offer to trade Batum for Beale, etc. No more sentimentality, no more griping and poor-mouthing, and no more fiscal responsibility. Winners spend, so let's not pretend there's a hard cap.

Throwing everything out there...what do the Hornets have to do to win?

[Great]

Pick a direction. Win Now or Retool.
Add talent that does at least two things at a high level.

Add more playmakers.

Add three point shooting.

Find an identity. Acquire talent that embodies that identity.

Build a balanced roster, address the roster needs.