Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread

[hookshot199]

Very interested to see who else would be offering Harris a max deal if the Nets are out.

Jazz and Pacers were other options but they’re probably out too.

Utah can only get to $27.8 million. Someone is indicating that if the order of operations is changed on the Conley trade we can have $32.8, but I honestly think they forgot about minimum roster charges. I do think Harris would turn down a 5 year max, though, cause he'd make more on a 1+1 and then a 10 year vet max. Interested to see how it plays out. I think Utah is likely out, but if Philly doesn't offer a full max or won't do a 1+1 I'm obviously hoping Utah can get him, lol.

What's the status of Favors? Have you agreed to pick up his $16 mil team option? That would make a difference,
wouldn't it?

[babyjax13]

Very interested to see who else would be offering Harris a max deal if the Nets are out.

Jazz and Pacers were other options but they’re probably out too.

Utah can only get to $27.8 million. Someone is indicating that if the order of operations is changed on the Conley trade we can have $32.8, but I honestly think they forgot about minimum roster charges. I do think Harris would turn down a 5 year max, though, cause he'd make more on a 1+1 and then a 10 year vet max. Interested to see how it plays out. I think Utah is likely out, but if Philly doesn't offer a full max or won't do a 1+1 I'm obviously hoping Utah can get him, lol.

What's the status of Favors? Have you agreed to pick up his $16 mil team option? That would make a difference,
wouldn't it?

We have until July 5th to decide. So if someone wants to sign, we just let him go.

[hookshot199]

The only thing I can imagine is:

1.Its Butler simply just taking advantage of being a FA and hearing what teams say in the event he becomes disgruntled again.
2.Its Butler's agent trying to put pressure on Philly to offer the 5 year max.
3.Butler or his agent have told Philly they want out, and it's generating suitors for a sign & trade scenario.

I would think #2 PLUS Jimmy giving the Sixers an "F-U" meeting with Leonard, which would mean Jimmy's out.
I don't think there's much of a chance that Leonard will sign with the Sixers, but we don't know what sort of
commitments were made when Brand took a private jet to pick Jimmy up in November.

I would expect he'll be more dug in now than ever on the full 5-year max if he wasn't before.

[VDT]

These might be games from his agent or there might be genuine interest from these teams. Regardless i cant fault Butler or any other player really for meeting with multiple teams. This is literally the only time in his career that he will have the chance to decide himself where he will play.

[AirP.]

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Well, we also got a meeting with lebron last year.

We also had the money to sign LeBron....unlike Houston and Miami.

Sure and they'd have to find a way to either sign and trade for Butler or find the cap space to just sign him. Need to remember this is the same team that figured out a way to trade for CP3 when it didn't look possible/feasible.

I get most teams probably couldn't/wouldn't find a way, D.Morey will try to find a way, he was already willing to move 4 1st for Butler last year, I'm sure he's still willing to move a ton to create the room for Butler still. Houston's championship window is Harden, so they have to do what they can to win inside that window and I'm sure once that window is closing (in a few years) Houston will move Harden and whoever else to reload.

[AirP.]

These might be games from his agent or there might be genuine interest from these teams. Regardless i cant fault Butler or any other player really for meeting with multiple teams. This is literally the only time in his career that he will have the chance to decide himself where he will play.

Right, even if he's 99% ready to resign with Philly he needs to not wonder what could have happened with those other teams had he signed with them. Although not a top tier FA like a KD or Kawhi is, he's good enough to have input on a franchise to try to get something done (if he wants it done) before he was to sign with them. In Philly, he's the 2nd and possibly 3rd most important (because of Simmons being so much younger).

[Sixerscan]

Utah can only get to $27.8 million. Someone is indicating that if the order of operations is changed on the Conley trade we can have $32.8, but I honestly think they forgot about minimum roster charges. I do think Harris would turn down a 5 year max, though, cause he'd make more on a 1+1 and then a 10 year vet max. Interested to see how it plays out. I think Utah is likely out, but if Philly doesn't offer a full max or won't do a 1+1 I'm obviously hoping Utah can get him, lol.

What's the status of Favors? Have you agreed to pick up his $16 mil team option? That would make a difference,
wouldn't it?

We have until July 5th to decide. So if someone wants to sign, we just let him go.

Depending on timing you could probably trade him for a 2nd to a team that missed out on the center market.

[76ciology]

Why do the Heat want him? They aren't a serious contender even with him.

Make playoffs = instant money. No

[babyjax13]

What's the status of Favors? Have you agreed to pick up his $16 mil team option? That would make a difference,
wouldn't it?

We have until July 5th to decide. So if someone wants to sign, we just let him go.

Depending on timing you could probably trade him for a 2nd to a team that missed out on the center market.

I'd imagine most teams would prefer just to sign him. If the Jazz are getting rid of him, they aren't going to be able to move him for value to a team that could sign him outright. But I'd like to believe that's wrong.

[Sixerscan]

We have until July 5th to decide. So if someone wants to sign, we just let him go.

Depending on timing you could probably trade him for a 2nd to a team that missed out on the center market.

I'd imagine most teams would prefer just to sign him. If the Jazz are getting rid of him, they aren't going to be able to move him for value to a team that could sign him outright. But I'd like to believe that's wrong.

Depends on free agency. Could see a team want to roll their cap space to next summer while retaining his full bird rights.

[PhilasFinest]

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[PhilasFinest]

Just some interesting quotes regarding FA....I have no idea how credible any of this is, but its specialution week so figured id post them....

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Would wonder if maybe Harris' age/game make him a bigger priority than Butler? Guy seems to be a Laker fan so maybe its just hopeful posts, but I've seen it RT'd a few times.

[Sixersftw]

Who is Vinay Killawala?

[PhilasFinest]

Who is Vinay Killawala?

No clue lol. Ive seen it retweeted several times by Sixers people, and someone over on the Lakers board quoting it as well. Like I said, 0 idea of any type of credibility but its a somewhat interesting take regarding Butler/Harris so figured id throw the ideas into the conversation.

its the first ive heard on them prioritizing Harris

[cool93]

Hope thats not true. Paying Harris full max and letting Butler go would literally be 2 worst possible moves.

[Mik317]

Kyrie and Jimmy were linked before.

Minny was on Kyrie's list when he bailed on the Cavs IIRC.

[FlyingArrow]

Does Jimmy prioritize playing with Kyrie over winning and money?

[Arsenal]

I'm ok with losing Jimmy IF we replace him with D'Lo and preferably Danny Green also. If we lose Jimmy we have $39M in open cap keeping Tobias' hold (resign him after using up the cap). That means $27M MAX for D'Lo and $10-11M 1st year for Danny Green. Would leave just enough cap to sign Shake to a 4 year Hinkie special.

PG Russell
SG Green
SF Harris
PF Simmons
CE Embiid

Green gives us a much needed defensive stopper in the backcourt who can also space on offense. Need a guy like this if we lose Butler's defense.

Then I try to get Redick back for the minimum this year, by promising a large single year payment next summer when we'll have his full Bird Rights. If he doesn't agree its no big deal. He's going to be 35 this upcoming season anyway, and we've already filled his starting spot.

Sign a backup 4/5 and a backup wing. Get one using the Room Exception and the other with a vet min.

We won't be as good next year without Jimmy, but we'll be better off long term.

[mhunt]

I'm ok with losing Jimmy IF we replace him with D'Lo and preferably Danny Green also. If we lose Jimmy we have $39M in open cap keeping Tobias' hold (resign him after using up the cap). That means $27M MAX for D'Lo and $10-11M 1st year for Danny Green. Would leave just enough cap to sign Shake to a 4 year Hinkie special.

PG Russell
SG Green
SF Harris
PF Simmons
CE Embiid

Green gives us a much needed defensive stopper in the backcourt who can also space on offense. Need a guy like this if we lose Butler's defense.

Then I try to get Redick back for the minimum this year, by promising a large single year payment next summer when we'll have his full Bird Rights. If he doesn't agree its no big deal. He's going to be 35 this upcoming season anyway, and we've already filled his starting spot.

Sign a backup 4/5 and a backup wing. Get one using the Room Exception and the other with a vet min.

We won't be as good next year without Jimmy, but we'll be better off long term.

i agree that it wouldn't be the end of the world to lose butler...but that could be a really, really bad bench. i'd seriously consider going with a big 3 of jojo, ben, toby & sliding in a couple role player starters & a better bench.

[Arsenal]

I'm ok with losing Jimmy IF we replace him with D'Lo and preferably Danny Green also. If we lose Jimmy we have $39M in open cap keeping Tobias' hold (resign him after using up the cap). That means $27M MAX for D'Lo and $10-11M 1st year for Danny Green. Would leave just enough cap to sign Shake to a 4 year Hinkie special.

PG Russell
SG Green
SF Harris
PF Simmons
CE Embiid

Green gives us a much needed defensive stopper in the backcourt who can also space on offense. Need a guy like this if we lose Butler's defense.

Then I try to get Redick back for the minimum this year, by promising a large single year payment next summer when we'll have his full Bird Rights. If he doesn't agree its no big deal. He's going to be 35 this upcoming season anyway, and we've already filled his starting spot.

Sign a backup 4/5 and a backup wing. Get one using the Room Exception and the other with a vet min.

We won't be as good next year without Jimmy, but we'll be better off long term.

i agree that it wouldn't be the end of the world to lose butler...but that could be a really, really bad bench. i'd seriously consider going with a big 3 of jojo, ben, toby & sliding in a couple role player starters & a better bench.

I get what you're saying but its only a 1 year problem really. Next summer we'd have the full midlevel and BAE to add 2-3 more bench pieces to whoever we get w/the Room Ex. this summer. And it also gives a chance for Smith and Thybulle to get some major minutes this year. One or both of those guys could step up and seize a spot in the rotation.