Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian

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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#121 » by neo515 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:14 pm

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Forte IV wrote:His nationality is Greek, his family is from Nigeria. It's the equivalent of a random guy saying he's American but Grandparents came from Portugal or something.

Not exactly, United States is the nation immigrants Greece is not a immigrant country what's more is not a immigrant friendly country, immigrants are unwelcome there, his family had to lived on the streets without food for years, nobody helped them or gave a job, even though he's born in Greece, they didn't provide any papers for him so he lived stateless until 18 years old, he self-learned basketball in playgrounds . After Greek Basketball Assosiation scouts discovered him, then all of sudden Greece gave him and his family citizenships. So definetelly Greece did not contribute much to help him to be a great athlete, the great genes were the reason. So whenever i hear the "greek" freak it's cringes me, he's not Greek he's 100% African.


From Wikipedia: "Like many other immigrants to Greece, his parents struggled to find work. Antetokounmpo and his older brother, Thanasis, helped out by hawking items such as watches, bags and sunglasses. In 2007 Antetokounmpo started playing basketball, For the first 18 years of his life Antetokounmpo was effectively stateless, having no papers from Nigeria or Greece..."

From New York Times: "He is known as the Greek Freak, a basketball player of such transcendent ability that he has become celebrated as the face of the country of his birth. Yet for most of his life growing up in Greece, Giannis Antetokounmpo was considered a foreigner. As the son of African immigrants, he was perpetually vulnerable to attacks by racist militants, and to threats of deportation to Nigeria, a country he had never visited."


Do you expect a financially troubled European country like Greece to grant citizenship and benefits to every immigrant who comes across its borders? They've had to be bailed while struggling to take care of their own citizens, much less the millions coming across the Mediterranean. Of course they're going to prioritize citizenship for people who are net positives for their economy; every single country does. There's a massive double standard here from people claiming he's African. If you want to separate people along ethnic origins rather than nationality, there are hundreds of millions of immigrants across Europe, the US, and Canada who stand to be rejected by their adopted countries. People have been working hard to blur those differences and move away from ethnic & racial tribalism, but this type of separatist rhetoric can ignite rapidly and have a disastrous effect on innocent immigrants who are just trying to integrate.
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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#122 » by neo515 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:24 pm

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Panic610 wrote:Anyone can look at Giannis and see that he is not Greek. Only difference between Giannis and Black Americans is he knows where he comes from.

Comment is so slept on its not even funny.


I hope you realize that this works both ways, and that line of thinking is exponentially more harmful for African immigrants than native Europeans. There are millions of African immigrants who are trying to integrate in Europe, and if Italians, Greeks, Germans, et al. adopt that same attitude, there will be a catastrophe. You can't just tell people to ignore ethnicity when it suits you and expect them not to build up resentment.
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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#123 » by trueballer7 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:25 pm

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Forte IV wrote:His nationality is Greek, his family is from Nigeria. It's the equivalent of a random guy saying he's American but Grandparents came from Portugal or something.

Not exactly, United States is the nation immigrants Greece is not a immigrant country what's more is not a immigrant friendly country, immigrants are unwelcome there, his family had to lived on the streets without food for years, nobody helped them or gave a job, even though he's born in Greece, they didn't provide any papers for him so he lived stateless until 18 years old, he self-learned basketball in playgrounds . After Greek Basketball Assosiation scouts discovered him, then all of sudden Greece gave him and his family citizenships. So definetelly Greece did not contribute much to help him to be a great athlete, the great genes were the reason. So whenever i hear the "greek" freak it's cringes me, he's not Greek he's 100% African.


From Wikipedia: "Like many other immigrants to Greece, his parents struggled to find work. Antetokounmpo and his older brother, Thanasis, helped out by hawking items such as watches, bags and sunglasses. In 2007 Antetokounmpo started playing basketball, For the first 18 years of his life Antetokounmpo was effectively stateless, having no papers from Nigeria or Greece..."

From New York Times: "He is known as the Greek Freak, a basketball player of such transcendent ability that he has become celebrated as the face of the country of his birth. Yet for most of his life growing up in Greece, Giannis Antetokounmpo was considered a foreigner. As the son of African immigrants, he was perpetually vulnerable to attacks by racist militants, and to threats of deportation to Nigeria, a country he had never visited."


His family didnt live on the streets, society was extremely friendly to them, Giannis and his brothers went through all degrees of public school without any problems (even if both your parents are illegal, Greek state is by law obligated to provide you with free education from ages 6-18, without the possibility of deportation), they did sports exactly how all Greek kids their age did (self-learned in the beginning, small local clubs then etc), they were supported by the Greek orthodox Church and its institutions, had a nice company of greek friends, a nice neighbourhood, went to parties, went to see Olympiakos' games with his father, had girlfriends, and in general lived a much happier life than propaganda articles will let you believe. Which is why they express their wholehearted respect and love to Greece. Financially wise, they lived the kind of life any family, Greek or immigrant, without a stable work lives.
If Giannis feels more Nigerian than Greek, thats ok and it has nothing to do with how Greece treated him. Blood is blood. When I hear him speak though, even in English (he has the distinctive Greek accent), its all Greece.
As for Masai....nobody cares. He was a nobody that just got lucky. Once Kawhi leaves, he'll become a nobody again.
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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#124 » by Thrilla4Manila » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:27 pm

BillTheGOAT wrote:Thats tampering


:lol: Well done sir!
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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#125 » by will » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:30 pm

BillTheGOAT wrote:Thats tampering



Hilarious coming from a Bill Belichick screen name :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#126 » by Jabroni Lames » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:32 pm

Giannis identifies as Nigerian. In his own words.....

“I grew up in a Nigerian home,” Antetokounmpo said. “Obviously, I was born in Greece and went to school in Greece. But at the end of the day when I go home, there is no Greek culture. It’s straight-up Nigerian culture.

“There are a lot of people that I see and I tell them that I am African. I am not just ‘The Greek Freak,’ ” Antetokounmpo said.
“It doesn’t matter what people may believe because of my nickname. There were a lot of times when I was in Greece where people said, ‘You’re not Greek. You’re Nigerian because you’re black.’


https://theundefeated.com/features/bucks-giannis-antetokounmpo-greek-freak-wants-to-go-back-to-his-nigerian-roots/
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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#127 » by GusT15 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:34 pm

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jamalkandur wrote:
Forte IV wrote:His nationality is Greek, his family is from Nigeria. It's the equivalent of a random guy saying he's American but Grandparents came from Portugal or something.

Not exactly, United States is the nation immigrants Greece is not a immigrant country what's more is not a immigrant friendly country, immigrants are unwelcome there, his family had to lived on the streets without food for years, nobody helped them or gave a job, even though he's born in Greece, they didn't provide any papers for him so he lived stateless until 18 years old, he self-learned basketball in playgrounds


^^This.


His family was never on the streets you ignorant uneducated "use more appropriate word"

They came to Greece way before the Olympic Games of 2004 and economy was thriving-there where jobs all over-and his father was employeed and getting by just fine.
Greek economy crumbled after 2007,that's when things got tough not just for immigrants but for Greeks as well.

The papers and nationality issues are pure bureaucracy BS.They aren't recognized as Greeks cause of bureaucracy but they aren't deported.They just have their working Visa's renewed yearly.

He was trained in basketball in Greece within a team system at the semi-pro level.Not at the playgrounds.He lifted that team up to Division 2 basketball in Greece.

People with no idea of actual facts keep spreading missinformation.Typical.
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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#128 » by Johnny Bball » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:36 pm

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VinBaker6 wrote:Giannis admires and respects him. He wants to win a title. Hopefully the Bucks can take the next step cuz I wouldn't want Masai in a room with Giannis in July 2021.

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This is nothing more than Toronto fans grasping onto straws. It's not happening.


You sound almost as confident as during the ECF. Almost.


Try to stay classy will you.
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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#129 » by GusT15 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:40 pm

Aaaaand the Masai quote just made Greek media News.

Congratulations Mr Ujiri.In your attempt to promote your African Basketball program you just enabled the 5% of Far Right Greeks-sorry excuses of-human beings to spew their BS of racism and hate speech.

That's why you don't mix sports with politics you genius man.Well Done.I'm sure Giannis is extremely happy. :nonono:
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Post#130 » by ElodyTamTam » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:40 pm

ropjhk wrote:I think Giannis is the one who gets to decide if he identifies as Greek or not. Not Masai.


/thread. Oh and my respect for Masai went down quite a few notches here.
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Post#131 » by Raps in 4 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:45 pm

Forte IV wrote:His nationality is Greek, his family is from Nigeria. It's the equivalent of a random guy saying he's American but Grandparents came from Portugal or something.


Greece literally didn't want him. He had to fight tooth and nail for that citizenship.
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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#132 » by GURLAK » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:46 pm

Masai knows Giannis on a personal level. He must have said this already knowing Giannis' sentiments about his nationalality.

Greece didn't even recognize Giannis as a citizen for a long time. Blame this on bureaucracy but it is true lol
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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#133 » by mkot » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:47 pm

Okay I know there's connection and relationship between Masai and Giannis but who is he to say he is Nigerian? I hate it when elderly thinks they have the authority to force identity onto younger generation. He is who he thinks he is, not by anyone else. Sheesh.
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Post#134 » by spikeslovechild » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:47 pm

Masai is a racial arsonist. Stop starting fires Giannis will be forced to put out he's a grown ass man who can speak for himself if he has a problem with the nickname he can say it.

If he wants to be known more publicly as Nigerian versus Greek he can say that too
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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#135 » by trueballer7 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:48 pm

GusT15 wrote:Aaaaand the Masai quote just made Greek media News.

Congratulations Mr Ujiri.In your attempt to promote your African Basketball program you just enabled the 5% of Far Right Greeks-sorry excuses of-human beings to spew their BS of racism and hate speech.

That's why you don't mix sports with politics you genius man.Well Done.I'm sure Giannis is extremely happy. :nonono:

Ujiri is racist himself.
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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#136 » by Moon Walk » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:50 pm

VinBaker6 wrote:
skones wrote:who cares
Giannis admires and respects him. He wants to win a title. Hopefully the Bucks can take the next step cuz I wouldn't want Masai in a room with Giannis in July 2021.

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This has already happened. Giannis has called Masai as soon as Toronto won the Chip
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Post#137 » by Johnny Bball » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:50 pm

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GusT15 wrote:Aaaaand the Masai quote just made Greek media News.

Congratulations Mr Ujiri.In your attempt to promote your African Basketball program you just enabled the 5% of Far Right Greeks-sorry excuses of-human beings to spew their BS of racism and hate speech.

That's why you don't mix sports with politics you genius man.Well Done.I'm sure Giannis is extremely happy. :nonono:

Ujiri is racist himself.


You should expand on that.
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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#138 » by GURLAK » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:53 pm

Masai is a modern saint. These comments as some mentioned are leading to a dialogue in Greece about immigrant rights.

Well done Masai!
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Post#139 » by spikeslovechild » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:53 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:
trueballer7 wrote:
GusT15 wrote:Aaaaand the Masai quote just made Greek media News.

Congratulations Mr Ujiri.In your attempt to promote your African Basketball program you just enabled the 5% of Far Right Greeks-sorry excuses of-human beings to spew their BS of racism and hate speech.

That's why you don't mix sports with politics you genius man.Well Done.I'm sure Giannis is extremely happy. :nonono:

Ujiri is racist himself.


You should expand on that.


What he said would certainly be labelled racist if some white dude did it.
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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#140 » by 6ixSideSniper » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:54 pm

Ree4erMadness wrote:
Panic610 wrote:Anyone can look at Giannis and see that he is not Greek. Only difference between Giannis and Black Americans is he knows where he comes from.

Comment is so slept on its not even funny.


No this comment is ridiculous.

Nationality is one thing. Ethnicity is another. They don't have to be mutually exclusive.

And comparing immigrant parents where Giannis is a first generation Greek to African-Americans who have had ancestry in America since as early as the 1600s is insane.

Are we going to call all Jamaicans Africans now too? Or how about West Indian people, i guess there's no such thing as Guyanese people?

Cuba's genetic ancestry is 72% European, 20% African and 8% Native American, guess we can stop calling them Cubans too, got a suggestion for what you call someone thats blend of all of that? And where are you going to anoint "where they're from"?
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