2019 Utah Jazz Off Season Thread

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Re: 2019 Utah Jazz Off Season Thread 

Post#461 » by KqWIN » Sun Jun 23, 2019 6:19 pm

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KqWIN wrote:Losing so many minutes of solid players (Rubio, Neto, Korver, Thabo, Crowder) is really going to hurt us in the regular season I think. Don't be surprised if we don't win as many games as last year. Our top end playoff rotation is much better though.

Yep... I kind of worry about our rotation. I think it's very likely multiple of those second rounders we drafted will make the roster and might even play some minutes in the regular season. It's hard to replace all those minutes. I still haven't seen anything official about Neto. I still harbor hopes he will stay. We can use him.


We have 8 players, and that includes Exum and Niang. I'm relatively high on both, but they aren't safe rotation players by any means. DLZ needs to do some serious work getting minimum guys to come in. We have lots of playing time for them. If we don't have a reliable bench, the chances of us getting deep into the playoffs uninjured gets worse.
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Re: 2019 Utah Jazz Off Season Thread 

Post#462 » by zero24gravity » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:49 pm

Hearing Bobby Portis has significant interest in coming to the Utah Jazz. Portis is a restricted free agent for the Washington Wizards. He’s a power forward/center who is a good perimeter shooter. Eight days until free agency starts

— Tony Jones (@Tjonesonthenba) June 22, 2019


Not sure I want them worrying about RFA's, especially since they can't really offer a "poison" contract, that could scare away a team like the Wizards from matching. Still, he'd be a nice addition, no doubt.
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Re: 2019 Utah Jazz Off Season Thread 

Post#463 » by pickIBL » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:48 am

Favs and Neto could be dropped. One way or another the jazz could also move on from exum.

Id be all for zubac, portis, and de colo coming in.
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Re: 2019 Utah Jazz Off Season Thread 

Post#464 » by stitches » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:41 am

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Jaylen Brown is an interesting option for next year.
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Re: 2019 Utah Jazz Off Season Thread 

Post#465 » by AingesBurner » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:31 pm

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Jaylen Brown is an interesting option for next year.


I would love to sign him as a finger to the C’s.
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Re: 2019 Utah Jazz Off Season Thread 

Post#466 » by Catchall » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:00 pm

Here's a question the Jazz are probably asking themselves: would you give up Joe Ingles and Derrick Favors to open up a max slot, assuming Tobias Harris wants to come here?
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Re: 2019 Utah Jazz Off Season Thread 

Post#467 » by AingesBurner » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:11 pm

Catchall wrote:Here's a question the Jazz are probably asking themselves: would you give up Joe Ingles and Derrick Favors to open up a max slot, assuming Tobias Harris wants to come here?


Most definitely, you have 4 legit scorers on the team with Donny, Mikey, Rudy, and Tobias.
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Re: 2019 Utah Jazz Off Season Thread 

Post#468 » by Catchall » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:14 pm

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Catchall wrote:Here's a question the Jazz are probably asking themselves: would you give up Joe Ingles and Derrick Favors to open up a max slot, assuming Tobias Harris wants to come here?


Most definitely, you have 4 legit scorers on the team with Donny, Mikey, Rudy, and Tobias.


I think the Jazz are prepared to do this. Justin Zanik says the Jazz are going to have a bunch of roster spots open, and they just paid $2M to acquire the 58th pick in the draft, something pretty uncharacteristic for them. I think they're going to try to make a big consolidation move like this and fill in the roster with minimum guys. The Jazz also think Royce O'Neale is good enough to be a 5th starter.

I think they're just being quiet about it, out of respect for Joe Ingles.

The Jazz could also do a big-time trade with Favors and Ingles' contracts, assuming FA doesn't pan out.
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Re: 2019 Utah Jazz Off Season Thread 

Post#469 » by Tom349 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:37 pm

Catchall wrote:Here's a question the Jazz are probably asking themselves: would you give up Joe Ingles and Derrick Favors to open up a max slot, assuming Tobias Harris wants to come here?


Absolutely not. Im not sure if Harris is even the best player in question. His skill set is certainly desirable but he offers very few intangibles and that is reflective in his advanced stats. Favors and Ingles on the other hand offer far more than what the box score suggest and collectively make less than what it would cost to get Harris. Anyone who would entertain this offer either severely overrates Harris (which is happening a lot of late) or is severely underrating Favors and especially Ingles.

For all the talk of Harris, he isn't close to being worth the max. Good player but not 34m good. A taller, slightly better Jeremy Lamb who is going to cost potentially 20m a season more.
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Re: 2019 Utah Jazz Off Season Thread 

Post#470 » by Catchall » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:43 pm

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Catchall wrote:Here's a question the Jazz are probably asking themselves: would you give up Joe Ingles and Derrick Favors to open up a max slot, assuming Tobias Harris wants to come here?


Absolutely not. Im not sure if Harris is even the best player in question. His skill set is certainly desirable but he offers very few intangibles and that is reflective in his advanced stats. Favors and Ingles on the other hand offer far more than what the box score suggest and collectively make less than what it would cost to get Harris. Anyone who would entertain this offer either severely overrates Harris (which is happening a lot of late) or is severely underrating Favors and especially Ingles.

For all the talk of Harris, he isn't close to being worth the max. Good player but not 34m good. A taller, slightly better Jeremy Lamb who is going to cost potentially 20m a season more.


I'm guessing the Jazz have a short list of players for whom they'd be willing to make this kind of consolidation trade. Harris is probably somewhere on the list.

The Jazz like Favors, but I think they'd move him to bring in another impact player. As it stands, Favors isn't on the floor to end games and is really just a token starter at the PF spot. He anchors our bench unit though.
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Re: 2019 Utah Jazz Off Season Thread 

Post#471 » by KqWIN » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:49 pm

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Jaylen Brown is an interesting option for next year.


Rodney Hood is an interesting option for this year.
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Re: 2019 Utah Jazz Off Season Thread 

Post#472 » by Tom349 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:52 pm

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Catchall wrote:Here's a question the Jazz are probably asking themselves: would you give up Joe Ingles and Derrick Favors to open up a max slot, assuming Tobias Harris wants to come here?


Absolutely not. Im not sure if Harris is even the best player in question. His skill set is certainly desirable but he offers very few intangibles and that is reflective in his advanced stats. Favors and Ingles on the other hand offer far more than what the box score suggest and collectively make less than what it would cost to get Harris. Anyone who would entertain this offer either severely overrates Harris (which is happening a lot of late) or is severely underrating Favors and especially Ingles.

For all the talk of Harris, he isn't close to being worth the max. Good player but not 34m good. A taller, slightly better Jeremy Lamb who is going to cost potentially 20m a season more.


I'm guessing the Jazz have a short list of players for whom they'd be willing to make this kind of consolidation trade. Harris is probably somewhere on the list.

The Jazz like Favors, but I think they'd move him to bring in another impact player. As it stands, Favors isn't on the floor to end games and is really just a token starter at the PF spot.


Their not moving Ingles for Harris. Its a non starter. Ingles would only make weigh in a trade for a star of which Harris is not. We're not going to get a better player than Ingles for 12m a season.

It's possible the Jazz move on from Favors but if they do its going to be for a combination of quality players to fill out the bench and occupy closing minutes at the 4. If they can't achieve that then they will keep him and rightly so as although he may only play token minutes during the RS if we come up against Lakers, Mavs, Nuggets or OKC in the playoffs his numbers at the four will reflect starter minutes given the personal on those teams.
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Re: 2019 Utah Jazz Off Season Thread 

Post#473 » by Inigo Montoya » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:18 pm

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Jaylen Brown is an interesting option for next year.


Rodney Hood is an interesting option for this year.

Conley opting out is an interesting option for next year.
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Re: 2019 Utah Jazz Off Season Thread 

Post#474 » by stitches » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:23 pm

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Re: 2019 Utah Jazz Off Season Thread 

Post#475 » by sipclip » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:12 pm

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Re: 2019 Utah Jazz Off Season Thread 

Post#476 » by sipclip » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:14 pm

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Jaylen Brown is an interesting option for next year.


Rodney Hood is an interesting option for this year.


I would welcome him back with open arms. We need a scorer like him off the bench. Same goes for Burks.
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Re: 2019 Utah Jazz Off Season Thread 

Post#477 » by Pistol_7 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:50 pm

Catchall wrote:
Tom349 wrote:
Catchall wrote:Here's a question the Jazz are probably asking themselves: would you give up Joe Ingles and Derrick Favors to open up a max slot, assuming Tobias Harris wants to come here?


Absolutely not. Im not sure if Harris is even the best player in question. His skill set is certainly desirable but he offers very few intangibles and that is reflective in his advanced stats. Favors and Ingles on the other hand offer far more than what the box score suggest and collectively make less than what it would cost to get Harris. Anyone who would entertain this offer either severely overrates Harris (which is happening a lot of late) or is severely underrating Favors and especially Ingles.

For all the talk of Harris, he isn't close to being worth the max. Good player but not 34m good. A taller, slightly better Jeremy Lamb who is going to cost potentially 20m a season more.


I'm guessing the Jazz have a short list of players for whom they'd be willing to make this kind of consolidation trade. Harris is probably somewhere on the list.

The Jazz like Favors, but I think they'd move him to bring in another impact player. As it stands, Favors isn't on the floor to end games and is really just a token starter at the PF spot. He anchors our bench unit though.



I really think the Jazz are moving Favors, there is a reason why they gave him that two year deal last year with the second year non guaranteed. Gives them a chance to pursue a free agent or if they strike out then it's a no brainer they bring him back. If the Jazz weren't thinking about moving Favors they would have signed him to a longer term deal last year. Still don't understand the Exum deal that one is still a head scratcher :noway: , but I wouldn't be surprised they try to go all in on Harris.
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Re: 2019 Utah Jazz Off Season Thread 

Post#478 » by Catchall » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:57 pm

Favors' contract is structured to move, whether they decline his option or move him in a trade. Along with Neto or Bradley's contract, the Jazz are positioned to acquire a $20M player. If they're willing to move Exum or Ingles, that could a be $30M player.

Adding that kind of piece to Conley, Mitchell and Gobert, could make the Jazz close to a 60-win team.
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Re: 2019 Utah Jazz Off Season Thread 

Post#479 » by stitches » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:10 pm

Dunc'd on podcast are doing their yearly mock off-season.
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Pelton waived Favors and offered all the money to Mirotic(3/55 yuck... that's disgusting) from the get go and nobody else even made an offer for him so Mirotic chose the Jazz. Their conclusion was that the Jazz probably overpaid for Mirotic because of the lack of clearcut other options for him.

Favors got immediately waiver-claimed by the KNicks. In other words Pelton waived a player that the Jazz could have gotten assets for and gave up the same money for a player nobody else wanted. They thought the Jazz could get a second for Favors. In an attempt to fix that thing up they backtracked and Favors asked the Jazz if they can trade him somewhere for a second so the Jazz traded Favors to Boston for a second. If I were making a trade with Boston I would demand a first or else just send him to somebody else.
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Re: 2019 Utah Jazz Off Season Thread 

Post#480 » by Luigi » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:15 pm

Yikes, I don't want Mirotic at all anymore. Give me DeMarre Caroll for rmle.
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