Potential Offseason Moves

[Whole Truth]

See a rumor on the Memphis board that they are trying to piece together of Parsons for Whiteside where Heat save roughly 7m being 4m over the Luxury tax.

Whiteside is set to make 27.1m, Parsons 25.1m, that's only 2m, Heat need at least 4 to get under the Luxury tax. The assumption would be Korver's non guarantied contract being included.

J. Johnson contract is 15.1m/2yrs - Korver is 7.5m/3m guaranteed combined with Crowder 7.8m expiring = 4.3m saved, 6.3m total

With this trade Heat net 6.3m in cap space to get under the Luxury tax, shed Johnson for an expiring Crowder. This lends to the talk of a pick being included.

Whiteside wants to go to his hometown Charlotte. By Heat taking on Parsons, Memphis can then take Batum from Charlotte, while trading them Whiteside. Similar concept to my Adams trade suggestion.

Charlotte trade - (Batum, Bridges, FRP) for (Whiteside)
Charlotte trade - (Bizz) for (17m TPE/cap space)

To help entice Walker to stay, Charlotte land an upgrade at Centre with Whiteside, dump Batum & Bizz to net 18m in cap space for Bridges & a FRP.

In total Memphis trade - (Parsons, Crowder, Korver, 17m TPE) for (Batum, Bizz, Johnson, Bridges, Heat FRP, Charlotte FRP)

[Whole Truth]

Vinay Killawala
@vkillem

The Miami Heat have contacted the Memphis Grizzlies on swapping Hassan Whiteside for Chandler Parsons.

The Heat desperate to avoid the luxury tax have offered a heavily protected Future 1st Rounder, per sources

Heat would avoid luxury tax after trade and waive of Anderson

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1:13 AM - Jun 24, 2019

If Heat wave Anderson they will be 4-5m over the Luxury tax. Parsons for Whiteside sheds only 2m, the deal would have to be bigger for Heat to get under the luxury tax. Include Korver's 7.5/3m guaranteed contract & Heat save the near rumored 7m to get under the Lux ..

Parsons for Whiteside = 2m saved

Crowder, Korver for J.Hohnson = 4.5m saved

Heat drop yrs on Johnsons contract, shed 6.5m in cap to get under the Luxury tax, add a pick for value. Memphis flip Whiteside to Charlotte (his hometown) where he was rumored to request trade too.

(Batum, Bridges, FRP) for (Whiteside, Rabb)
(Bizz) for (TPE) = 17m cap space

Charlotte upgrade at C with Whiteside, dump 2 bad contracts in the process for 17m cap space for Bridges & a FRP.

[Whole Truth]

On one hand Suns are rumored to wanting Cap space to go after Russell.

According to John Gambadoro of Arizona Sports, the Suns are looking to upgrade the power forward position in free agency and have interest in Frank Kaminsky, along with Indiana’s Thaddeus Young, Portland’s Al-Farouq Aminu and Philadelphia’s Mike Scott.

Suns are obviously prioritizing 3pt shooting. Linked to Russell & a stretch 4.

They have 21.5m in practical cap space & interest in Russell.

Minnesota have a ways to go to put in a better offer than the Suns for Russell. Where Memphis can take Wiggins entire contract into space for Culver & a FRP.

Culver as the 6th pick, counts as 5m roughly against the cap. Wiggins with #6 Culver = 30m cap space for Minnesota. The FRP inclusion is for taking on 110m in salary besides creating 30m cap for Russell.

Any chance Charlotte would be interested in Whiteside & Wiggins for all their bad contracts ?. (Batum, Bizz, Zeller) to net Bridges in the process ..

[dark-child]

Vinay Killawala
@vkillem

The Miami Heat have contacted the Memphis Grizzlies on swapping Hassan Whiteside for Chandler Parsons.

The Heat desperate to avoid the luxury tax have offered a heavily protected Future 1st Rounder, per sources

Heat would avoid luxury tax after trade and waive of Anderson

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1:13 AM - Jun 24, 2019

If Heat wave Anderson they will be 4-5m over the Luxury tax. Parsons for Whiteside sheds only 2m, the deal would have to be bigger for Heat to get under the luxury tax. Include Korver's 7.5/3m guaranteed contract & Heat save the near rumored 7m to get under the Lux ..

Parsons for Whiteside = 2m saved

Crowder, Korver for J.Hohnson = 4.5m saved

Heat drop yrs on Johnsons contract, shed 6.5m in cap to get under the Luxury tax, add a pick for value. Memphis flip Whiteside to Charlotte (his hometown) where he was rumored to request trade too.

(Batum, Bridges, FRP) for (Whiteside, Rabb)
(Bizz) for (TPE) = 17m cap space

Charlotte upgrade at C with Whiteside, dump 2 bad contracts in the process for 17m cap space for Bridges & a FRP.

Charlotte sends - Batum, Biyombo, 1st rounder in 2020
Charlotte receives - Whiteside & CJ Miles

Miami sends - Whiteside & J. Winslow (they can't trade their 1st rounder in 2020 since they are trading it in 2021)
Miami receives - Chandler Parsons & Avery Bradley

Memphis sends - Chandler Parsons, Avery Bradley, & CJ Miles
Memphis receives - !st rounder from Charlotte in 2020, J. Winslow, B. Biyombo, & N. Batum

[Whole Truth]

Vinay Killawala
@vkillem

The Miami Heat have contacted the Memphis Grizzlies on swapping Hassan Whiteside for Chandler Parsons.

The Heat desperate to avoid the luxury tax have offered a heavily protected Future 1st Rounder, per sources

Heat would avoid luxury tax after trade and waive of Anderson

192
1:13 AM - Jun 24, 2019

If Heat wave Anderson they will be 4-5m over the Luxury tax. Parsons for Whiteside sheds only 2m, the deal would have to be bigger for Heat to get under the luxury tax. Include Korver's 7.5/3m guaranteed contract & Heat save the near rumored 7m to get under the Lux ..

Parsons for Whiteside = 2m saved

Crowder, Korver for J.Hohnson = 4.5m saved

Heat drop yrs on Johnsons contract, shed 6.5m in cap to get under the Luxury tax, add a pick for value. Memphis flip Whiteside to Charlotte (his hometown) where he was rumored to request trade too.

(Batum, Bridges, FRP) for (Whiteside, Rabb)
(Bizz) for (TPE) = 17m cap space

Charlotte upgrade at C with Whiteside, dump 2 bad contracts in the process for 17m cap space for Bridges & a FRP.

Charlotte sends - Batum, Biyombo, 1st rounder in 2020
Charlotte receives - Whiteside & CJ Miles

Miami sends - Whiteside & J. Winslow (they can't trade their 1st rounder in 2020 since they are trading it in 2021)
Miami receives - Chandler Parsons & Avery Bradley

Memphis sends - Chandler Parsons, Avery Bradley, & CJ Miles
Memphis receives - !st rounder from Charlotte in 2020, J. Winslow, B. Biyombo, & N. Batum

SD mentioned Bradley was under a different rule, I'm not sure Heat can buy him out?.

In all Memphis get a temporary backup C in Bizz, swap Parsons for Batum. Net Winslow & 2 mid to late first for 18m cap space, which is along the value Brooklyn paid.

The only issue I'd have with this is Winslow adds to a glut of wings/forwards on this roster in need of playing time but that could be rectified by another trade, so it would depend on how the roster irons out..

[Whole Truth]

Dark Child, with Minnesota & Suns vying for Russell, OKC & Heat needing to get under the Luxury tax. I think Memphis can get a better asset for 18+m in cap space than a mid to late first.

Suns are primed to offer Russell more than LA. If Minnesota are serious about Russell & managing their cap they should be considering giving up assets to dump Wiggins into space.

Minnesota trade - (Wiggins 25m 110m salary, Culver #6 is 5m against the cap, 2022 FRP with little to no protection)

for

(25m cap space, 110m saving) & the ability to sign Russell to appease Kat without having potentially 60m tied up between him & Wiggins for the next 4-5 yrs. By using assets to dump Wiggins into space instead of Teague's 19m expiring & Dieng. Minnesota would have cap flexibility around Kat & Russell when Teague expires & if they decide to stretch Dieng, if need be.

Memphis take the 110m financial burden for Culver & a future asset, where Wiggins negative value gets lost in a 2-3 development window for Jaren & Ja before becoming a large 30m expiring or trade filler for a max player with Memphis potentially holding 3 picks in 2020, at a pivotal point for the core group. If Jaren & Ja are not what Memphis thought they would be, Memphis would hold several picks in a quality draft, if they pan out to expectation, then Memphis would hold a large expiring, significant pick value for a rebuilding package for a team with a star looking to rebuild.

At that point, Beal would be 28, if Wizards haven't made any strides towards contention where they might consider a rebuild.

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Brandon ‘Scoop B’ Robinson
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@ScoopB

Miami Heat & Houston Rockets battled to get Jimmy Butler via trade this fall.

Sixers ultimately got Butler from the Timberwolves.

While a Sixers return is hopeful, in the last 24 hours I have heard that the Miami Heat will get a meeting with Butler.

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12:26 AM - Jun 25, 2019

Heat Whiteside/Parsons rumor linked to Savings/Memphis. With Heat potentially targeting Butler with no cap space.

[Whole Truth]

Looks like the trade machine is out of date. Wiggins is set to make 27m which doesn't fit into the Memphis TPE.

An attempt to indirectly fit Wiggins into the 25m TPE.

Minnesota trade - (Wiggins 27m, Dieng 16m, Culver 5m, 2022 FRP) for (J. Johnson 15m, Korver 7.5m/3m guarantee) = 30m shed

Heat trade - (Whiteside 27m, J. Johnson 15.4m, J. Rich 10m, FRP) for (Parsons 25m) = 30m shed

Charlotte trade - (Batum 25.5m, Bizz 17m, Bridges 3m) 45m out for (Whiteside 27m, J. Rich 10m, Crowder 7m) 44m in

Memphis trade - (25.5m TPE) for (Batum 25.5m) = 25.5m into cap space
Memphis trade - (Parsons 25.1m, Crowder 7m, Korver 7.5m) for (Wiggins 27.5m, Culver 5m, Bridges 3, 2020 FRP, 2022 FRP)

[Whole Truth]

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Minnesota dump 43m in bad contracts, 125.7m total salary & net 30m in cap space in order to sign Russel for Culver & a FRP.

Heat dump 42m in bad contracts, 75m total salary & net 30m in cap space in order to sign Butler for J.Rich & a FRP.

Charlotte dump 42m in bad contracts, 69m total salary & net 3 players to help entice Walker to stay with Whiteside, J. Rich & Crowder for Bridges

Memphis take on 30m in immediate cap, 176m total in salary to net Culver, Bridges & 2 FRP's

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Steve Kyler
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@stevekylerNBA

The HEAT can't have a meeting with Jimmy until June 30th... as for cap space, there is the sense that cap dollars can be moved... Minnesota, Orlando, Miami, and Houston are all operating like they can move money.

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Orlando is an interesting mention. Assume they might be in on Russell?.

[VCfor3]

Steve Kyler
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@stevekylerNBA

The HEAT can't have a meeting with Jimmy until June 30th... as for cap space, there is the sense that cap dollars can be moved... Minnesota, Orlando, Miami, and Houston are all operating like they can move money.

https://
twitter.com/Sarri66482742/
Satus/1143586985975734272

Orlando is an interesting mention. Assume they might be in on Russell?.

DLo with a very slim shot at Kemba. Maybe they will pivot and go after Satoransky or Wright or something since they could use a PG.

[Whole Truth]

Steve Kyler
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@stevekylerNBA

The HEAT can't have a meeting with Jimmy until June 30th... as for cap space, there is the sense that cap dollars can be moved... Minnesota, Orlando, Miami, and Houston are all operating like they can move money.

https://
twitter.com/Sarri66482742/
Satus/1143586985975734272

Orlando is an interesting mention. Assume they might be in on Russell?.

DLo with a very slim shot at Kemba. Maybe they will pivot and go after Satoransky or Wright or something since they could use a PG.

Looks that way.

Orlando have 17m in practical cap space & would only have to dump one of Mosgov, Fournier or Gordon if they want Russell or Kemba. 2 solid player values & an expiring apposed to other teams bad contracts. Magic are in good position to have anywhere from 33-36m.

[VCfor3]

Steve Kyler
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@stevekylerNBA

The HEAT can't have a meeting with Jimmy until June 30th... as for cap space, there is the sense that cap dollars can be moved... Minnesota, Orlando, Miami, and Houston are all operating like they can move money.

https://
twitter.com/Sarri66482742/
Satus/1143586985975734272

Orlando is an interesting mention. Assume they might be in on Russell?.

DLo with a very slim shot at Kemba. Maybe they will pivot and go after Satoransky or Wright or something since they could use a PG.

Looks that way.

Orlando have 17m in practical cap space & would only have to dump one of Mosgov, Fournier or Gordon if they want Russell or Kemba. 2 solid player values & an expiring apposed to other teams bad contracts. Magic are in good position to have anywhere from 33-36m.

Feels like Mozgov+2020 lottery protected 1st will be used if they get a commitment. Probably will wait till they have the commitment first though.

[Whole Truth]

Cap situation for teams potentially vying for Russell.

Suns - have 21m in practical cap space
Orlando - have 17m in practical cap space
LA - who have cap space, are rumored to be offering 20m at most for Russell. Both Suns & Minnesota will beat that offer
Minnesota - have -7 practical cap space

Minnesota have their work cut out for them financially but have the leverage of Kat being a close friend. Shedding Teague & Dieng would give them 35m in a clean dump (No team is going to do that without multiple assets). Assuming that they would, with -7m practical cap, it would equate to 28m practical cap space with Culver having a 5.8m cap hold. So he would have to be included as an asset in trade to reach 30m assuming some team will take 35m clean, which they won't. Would Culver be enough value to take up 35m cap space

Picks being zero value in trade. Minnesota traded Saric's 3.4m, with #11's 4m cap hold (7.8m) for the 6th pick's 5m cap hold.

Saric was value to Minnesota next to Kat but they traded him to save roughly 3m & beef up value of the 11th pick by trading up. Selecting White would have given Minnesota insurance to missing out on Russell. They're dedicated to landing Russell where I believe they selected Culver for a team that will help them shed salary. Selling him as BPA, so if something goes wrong in negotiations & they have to keep him ...

With Teague expiring, Minnesota would save 52m total salary with a Teague & Dieng 35m clean salary dump, which is unlikely.

Minnesota shed Wiggins with #6 5.8m cap hold (Culver) = 30m practical cap space in a 25m clean dump. With 4yrs left on Wiggins contract. For a 70m difference between dump options, a FRP has to be included for absorbing a 122m total salary. Most teams would probably ask for multiple FRPs, I say give up an unprotected 2022 pick where this team is pivoting into possible contention & it's a deal.

That additional 70m, when they're looking to hand a max contract out to Russell will be huge as it's likely Russell won't be worth his max contract either. It reduces the long term financial risk for them. They drop Wiggins, Teagues 19m comes off the books next season. Where they would have 40m against the cap apposed to 60. Leaving 1yr left on Dieng's 15m contract, apposed to 3yrs/30m for Wiggins if the signing takes a left turn.

[Whole Truth]

From the Nets board,

Russell's merchandise are officially 50% off.

[SD2042]

From the Nets board,

Russell's merchandise are officially 50% off.

You are the resident sideline reporter on the scene.

[SD2042]

DLo with a very slim shot at Kemba. Maybe they will pivot and go after Satoransky or Wright or something since they could use a PG.

Looks that way.

Orlando have 17m in practical cap space & would only have to dump one of Mosgov, Fournier or Gordon if they want Russell or Kemba. 2 solid player values & an expiring apposed to other teams bad contracts. Magic are in good position to have anywhere from 33-36m.

Feels like Mozgov+2020 lottery protected 1st will be used if they get a commitment. Probably will wait till they have the commitment first though.

Orlando has been mentioned within the last month or so. My thing is that in-spite of them needing a scorer on the roster. They need to decide on whether or not to bring back Vucevic and or Ross back to the team. They don't have enough cap space to keep al three players on the roster. Something will have to give in their situation. A trade for cap space is still possible. However, I'm not seeing a clear vision that the Magic will end up with DLo. It's hard to explain as I'm basing that on pure instinct.

To Kemba, I can see either Boston or Indiana acquiring him. Being the inevitable loss of Irving at PG, the Celtics have the space to get Kemba on the team and can potentially guarantee a chance to go to the playoffs. The big difference is that this young Celtics squad will be much younger than Kemba as he will be 29 as the season returns in October. In Indiana, same situation, cap space. And the opportunity to play with a young Indy squad and the chance to play with Victor Oladipo when he returns from injury early next year.

[dark-child]

Dark Child, with Minnesota & Suns vying for Russell, OKC & Heat needing to get under the Luxury tax. I think Memphis can get a better asset for 18+m in cap space than a mid to late first.

Suns are primed to offer Russell more than LA. If Minnesota are serious about Russell & managing their cap they should be considering giving up assets to dump Wiggins into space.

Minnesota trade - (Wiggins 25m 110m salary, Culver #6 is 5m against the cap, 2022 FRP with little to no protection)

for

(25m cap space, 110m saving) & the ability to sign Russell to appease Kat without having potentially 60m tied up between him & Wiggins for the next 4-5 yrs. By using assets to dump Wiggins into space instead of Teague's 19m expiring & Dieng. Minnesota would have cap flexibility around Kat & Russell when Teague expires & if they decide to stretch Dieng, if need be.

Memphis take the 110m financial burden for Culver & a future asset, where Wiggins negative value gets lost in a 2-3 development window for Jaren & Ja before becoming a large 30m expiring or trade filler for a max player with Memphis potentially holding 3 picks in 2020, at a pivotal point for the core group. If Jaren & Ja are not what Memphis thought they would be, Memphis would hold several picks in a quality draft, if they pan out to expectation, then Memphis would hold a large expiring, significant pick value for a rebuilding package for a team with a star looking to rebuild.

At that point, Beal would be 28, if Wizards haven't made any strides towards contention where they might consider a rebuild.

It is going to take me a minute to get use to the possibility of trading for Draft picks and the Front Office using them properly after ten plus years of Chris Wallace and his love of McDonald's All Americans, LSU players, and letting John Hollinger make picks.

Some of the deals look a little too good to be true, but we do have a very valuable asset in the TPE plus CAP space. My question is filling or using those assets on Wiggins even with a future 1st & Culver the best haul? Minnesota seems pretty confident of their ability to make something happen which may at minimum classify the rumor as smoke.

Phoenix no longer have anything of value for the Grizzlies after they traded Warren.

Miami can't trade a future 1st prior to 2023 so the goal has to be Justin Winslow.

I am not sure Kyle Anderson is a long term player under the new coach and system.

[Whole Truth]

From the Nets board,

Russell's merchandise are officially 50% off.

You are the resident sideline reporter on the scene.

I retired at 30 & realized my friends are still working. Currently I'm doing home renovations myself & posting in between breaks.

I'm trade/player tracking. For Minnesota to dump salary/Wiggins, they need Russel to become a FA. Behind the scenes I bet teams like Minnesota knew that was the outcome before the draft when they traded up & passed on a PG for a SG, when they have Okogie & a need at PG.

With that large Memphis TE, the worse the contract the better the assets, this is why I've targeted Minnesota & Wiggins who also need to dump salary for their interest in signing Russell. Their need is 2 fold, they're not just trying to dump a bad contract, they have intent with the space saved. With Ja & Jaren probably having a 2-3yr development window, it takes up most of Wiggins hit against the cap before Memphis would need to consider cap space for FA targets.

I didn't realize Wiggins can't fit into the Memphis TPE but still found a way to help Minnesota move him for 30m savings for Russell, Heat to trade Whiteside & get 30m savings either to avoid the Lux or target Butler as rumored, Charlotte to get some decent pieces to entice Walker to stay & Memphis assets for taking on that 30m ..

Minnesota trade - (Wiggins 27m, Dieng 16m, Culver 5m, 2022 FRP) for (J. Johnson 15m, Korver 7.5m/3m guarantee) = 30m shed

Heat trade - (Whiteside 27m, J. Johnson 15.4m, J. Rich 10m, FRP) for (Parsons 25m) = 30m shed

Charlotte trade - (Batum 25.5m, Bizz 17m, Bridges 3m) 45m out for (Whiteside 27m, J. Rich 10m, Crowder 7m) 44m in

Memphis trade - (25.5m TPE) for (Batum 25.5m) = 25.5m into cap space
Memphis trade - (Parsons 25.1m, Crowder 7m, Korver 7.5m) for (Wiggins 27.5m, Culver 5m, Bridges 3, 2020 FRP, 2022 FRP)

Memphis fit Batum's 25m into the trade exception, trade a non guaranteed contract for 30m cap space & take Wiggins back in matching salaries for Parsons.

[Whole Truth]

A cleaner version of the trade without the financial detail.

Minnesota trade - (Wiggins, Dieng, Culver, 2022 FRP) for (J. Johnson, Korver) = 30m shed

Heat trade - (Whiteside, J. Johnson, J. Rich, FRP) for (Parsons) = 30m shed

Charlotte trade - (Batum, Bizz, Bridges) 45m out for (Whiteside, J. Rich, Crowder) 44m in

Memphis trade - (25.5m TPE) for (Batum) = 25.5m into cap space
Memphis trade - (Parsons, Crowder, Korver) for (Wiggins, Culver, Bridges, 2020 FRP, 2022 FRP)


The 25m TPE & 4.6m non guaranteed = 30m savings for 2 teams using Charlotte as the cap space Buffer.

Fitting Batum into the 25m TE, free''s the cap space for Charlotte to take in the 25 mil from Heat, this is why they net J. Rich aswell as Whiteside & Crowder while giving up 2 bad contracts themselves in Batum & Bizz ..

Memphis take on the extra 30m the worse contract in deal to allow the saving for both Heat & Minnesota in order to net Culver, Bridges & 2 FRP's