Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian

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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#201 » by truly » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:31 pm

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KrAzY3 wrote:I think better of Giannis than to believe he's merely Greek when it is convenient for him.


See that a lot in soccer, guys not good enough to make their national team who then go play for their parents country.
And afterwards they'll talk about how much it means to them and how it was a choice from the heart.

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Greece literally refused him untill he played in the nba. The whole point of a government is to serve the ppl's interest. If it can't do that, then it should forfeit the right to lesgislate laws


And what did Nigeria do for him before he played in the NBA? :roll:

If you say Greece didnt care about him before he played basketball the exact same thing applies to Nigeria.

Anyway Giannis can identify however he wants and Masai has no business talking about it.
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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#202 » by freethedevil » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:34 pm

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freethedevil wrote:
Jazz9 wrote:
See that a lot in soccer, guys not good enough to make their national team who then go play for their parents country.
And afterwards they'll talk about how much it means to them and how it was a choice from the heart.

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Greece literally refused him untill he played in the nba. The whole point of a government is to serve the ppl's interest. If it can't do that, then it should forfeit the right to lesgislate laws


And what did Nigeria do for him before he played in the NBA? :roll:

If you say Greece didnt care about him before he played basketball the exact same thing applies to Nigeria.

Anyway Giannis can identify however he wants and Masai has no business talking about it.

What does any of that have to do with jazz 9 judging players who "rep a country when it's convenient."?
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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#203 » by truly » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:40 pm

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freethedevil wrote:Greece literally refused him untill he played in the nba. The whole point of a government is to serve the ppl's interest. If it can't do that, then it should forfeit the right to lesgislate laws


And what did Nigeria do for him before he played in the NBA? :roll:

If you say Greece didnt care about him before he played basketball the exact same thing applies to Nigeria.

Anyway Giannis can identify however he wants and Masai has no business talking about it.

What does any of that have to do with jazz 9 judging players who "rep a country when it's convenient."?


I shouldn't have quoted jazz 9.My bad.

I am addresing the point that Greece didnt care about him before he started playing basketball that is made throughout the thread.
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Post#204 » by Detective » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:45 pm

VinBaker6 wrote:Bring him home Masai.

What do you guys think?

Read on Twitter


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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#205 » by will » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:46 pm

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VinBaker6 wrote:Bring him home Masai.

What do you guys think?

Read on Twitter


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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#206 » by jonjames » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:48 pm

Unfortunately Giannis will never be truly accepted/embraced as 'Greek' by the vast majority of native Greeks if he wasn't the superstar that he is today..jUst like ppl still label or consider Jeremy Lin as a chinese hooper or a taiwanese hooper even though he was born in America. Giannis himself says he's African Nigerian to be specific. His words. End of thread.
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Post#207 » by theFireBlanket » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:49 pm

https://theundefeated.com/features/bucks-giannis-antetokounmpo-greek-freak-wants-to-go-back-to-his-nigerian-roots/

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Post#208 » by Sgt P » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:06 pm

Yuri Vaultin wrote:"Nigerian Freak" does not have a very good ring to it.


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Post#209 » by Fresh_Prince12 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:14 pm

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Post#210 » by theFireBlanket » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:17 pm

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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#211 » by God Squad » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:20 pm

Hes not wrong.
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Post#212 » by nostradamus » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:23 pm

Many of you don't have mixed identities and it shows.
This is just the case of when someone in the older generation doesn't identify with where you grew up and claims you for where they grew up, particularly if you're successful. Giannis should take it as a compliment, and we all can just move on.
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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#213 » by JH5 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:30 pm

Salieri wrote:He is greek.

He might not want to be greek, he might even identify himself as non-greek, and I respect that. Not everyone is forced to like the land he was born in or the country that claims his citizenship. That's understandable. Here in Europe we deal with that kind of feeling quite often, just ask many scottish people, or basque ones.

But he is what his passport says he is.

Nobody says he can't be nigerian too, he is entitled to feel as nigerian as he wants. But saying he's nigerian is one thing, saying he is NOT greek is an entirely different animal. It sounds similar but it ain't, and Ujiri might not understand the nuances when discussing this kind of subject... Or he might have just ignored them.

One of my passports say one thing and my other passport says another. So what am I?
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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#214 » by FJS » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:35 pm

Giannis is what Giannis says he is. He is greek born and has greek nationality but if he feels nigerian he is nigerian... and if he feels greek he is greek.
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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#215 » by GusT15 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:58 pm

Just to put this into another perspective and to look at it under another prism...

Read on Twitter


So Masai who is from Nigeria..and Ramatu from Sierra Leone..live in Canada..and are married...

And Masai's and Ramatu's children are Canadians as Masai said.

The late Charles Antetokounmpo (rest his soul) and Veronika Antetokounmpo were born in Nigeria and moved to Greece in the early 90s..and they had 4 children while living in Athens,Greece.

But Giannis is Nigerian and not Greek like Masai said...

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Post#216 » by axeman23 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:59 pm

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BlazersBroncos wrote:IDK, it seems sorta low key douchy of someone to not adopt the nationality of a country that granted you a better life.

He is ethnically Nigerian, but his nationality is Greek. Its not like immoral to choose to be referred to as Nigarian, but I know that I would like to verbalize the country that took me in moreso than the one that I just happened to be born into.

That country refused to accept him until recently though and his family endured a lot of racism.

If he wasn’t a 7’ basketball player he’d still be on the streets and the Greek gov’t wouldnt give a damn about him



Let's not act like that's any different to what happens in Nigeria, or many/most other countries in the world. The athletically/genetically gifted get taken care of for a potential quid pro quo down the road, and us "normies" fall through the cracks without the support of friends and family. I would assume if their life was so great in Nigeria, his parents would've just stayed there, no?
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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#217 » by Stannis » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:16 pm

Giannis is as Greek as much as Olajuwon is American
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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#218 » by GusT15 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:25 pm

Stannis wrote:Giannis is as Greek as much as Olajuwon is American


Giannis is as Greek as he feels like and neither your opinion friend or Masai Ujiri's opinion is going to change that.

(Also great comparison between Giannis and Hakeem.Giannis hadn't travelled outside of Greece till he was 18 and Hakeem hadn't travelled outside of Nigeria till he was 18.Awesome analogy! Giannis only spoke Greek and Hakeem only spoke French and Yoruba.The two situations are so very similar!) :banghead:

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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#219 » by LascelleL » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:40 pm

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Panic610 wrote:Anyone can look at Giannis and see that he is not Greek. Only difference between Giannis and Black Americans is he knows where he comes from.

Ok so now we're at the point where every black person living in Greece is not considered Greek?

It's all racial nationality and that's it? That's messed up.

You're either a part of the country where you live or you're not. If you're born in America for instance, you're American. That's what the law says and if you don't want to be American, you can leave and go some other place. But the idea that race supersedes everything else is honestly racist.
The irony in saying That this is America and then claiming race doesn't supercede anything in the same sentence.

As if Black people aren't gunned down by Police everyday. Like Masai Ujiri wasn't just accosted by a Cop who then Lied on him

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Re: Masai Ujiri: Giannis is not Greek, he's Nigerian 

Post#220 » by Hoopz Afrik » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:51 pm

....and he identifies as Nigerian first and foremost but he still loves his Greek nationality from what I've seen. His last name is middle name is Ugo (Igbo) and his last name is Adeotkumbo (Yoruba). Aint nothing Greek about that at all.lol. Greek Freak just had a nice ring to it and it caught on quicker.

The tricky thing about being an African athlete abroad, primarily European soccer which is really bad, is that media tends on to only refers to your African lineage when you are underperforming. Romelu Lukaku pointed it out when he said the Belgium media would refer to him as a Belgian striker when he has great performances and would refer to him as the Belgian striker of Congolese descent when he had terrible performances.
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