Offseason Thread: The Waiting is the Hardest Part

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Orange cast is 2019 version of the blue and purple bird.

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Orange cast is 2019 version of the blue and purple bird.

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Are they aware that Kevin Durant ruptured his Achilles?

I remember the last time they said this.

[30andoverclub]

Not to break up the KD, Kyrie, Knicks/Nets fun, but, in the event that the Knicks don't sign any big free agents, here are two major thoughts I've had recently.

Firstly, we've obviously talked about the possiblity of the Knicks taking on some bad contracts into their cap space. Those teams may want to create room to sign a free agent or otherwise avoid the luxury tax. Here are some teams that have players with one big year remaining on their contracts:

1. Miami Heat: Hassan Whiteside at $27MM.
2. Toronto Raptors: Serge Ibaka at $24MM.
3. Milwaukee Bucks: Jon Leuer at $9.5MM.
4. Portland Trailblazers: Meyers Leonard at $11MM.
5. Washington Wizards: Ian Mahinmi at $16MM.
6. Minnesota Timberwolves: Jeff Teague at $19MM.
7. Charlotte Hornets: Bismack Biyombo at $17MM.
8. Phoenix Suns: Tyler Johnson at $19MM.
9. LA Clippers: Danilo Gallinari at $22.6MM.

I really doubt the Suns would give up Mikal, but if it meant that they could both sign D'Angelo Russell and retain Kelly Oubre Jr.?

The second thing I've thought about is the development of the youngsters. Right now, IMO, the Knicks already need to give minutes to eight players: RJ, Mitch, Knox, DSJ, Frank, Dotson, Trier, and Iggy. If they bring back any combination of Vonleh, Mario, Kadeem, Kornet, Mudiay (please no) and/or sign some additional players, playing time could get scarce quickly. At that point, it feels like you might want to consolidate. For what? I don't know. The only players I feel the Knicks should target are those that are young and cost-controlled, and it's very tough to grab someone who's still on their rookie contract. So, I'll just bring up Aaron Gordon as a possibility again.

I'd be pretty happy if we ended up with:
PG: DSJ
SG: RJ
SF: Mikal
PF: Aaron Gordon
C: Mitch
Bench: Plenty of youth left, and still some cap room to sign or re-sign one year prove it deals.

[3eePointGoal]

Kd is in Ny and his people posted I love Ny. Brooklyn is in NY too lol

But one team has New York on its Jersey, while the other says brooklyn on it. Hmmmm.

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[3eePointGoal]

Are they aware that Kevin Durant ruptured his Achilles?

oh sh*t- this board about to go:

That photo is actually all thirteen Net fans trying to take us out so they can become THE team in New York

Wtf is netsdaily????...

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[Oscirus]

yea Im at the stage where im hoping the nets sign kyrie but don't really gaf what Durant does. If he signs, he signs

[taj2133]

I expect the memphis grizzles to be the worst team in the league next year in the 2019- 2020 season they are going through a rebuild. I expect charlotte hornets to loose lot games next year if they lose kemba walker and jeremy lamb in free agency. If the raptors loose kawhi leonard, danny green and marc gasol in free agency this summer the raptors are going to rebuild there team. The wizards don't want to pay luxury tax on a 8 place team next year there going to loose lot free agents such as bobby portis, jabri parker, thomas satoransky, trevor ariza, and sam decker. The piston ownership don't want to pay luxury tax on a 8 place playoff team next year i expect the piston to trade drummond, griffin, and reggie jackson at the deadline if they have a bad season. If the magic loose nick vucivic and terrance ross in free agency they are going to rebuild i could see them trading arron gordon and evan fournier by the trade deadline. If the knicks don't get a free agent this summer they could trade for one like an arron gordon or blake griffin for salary cap relief. The wizards, hornets, magic, piston and raptors have a lot of question marks if there team stars leave in free agency or get traded.

[spree2kawhi]

Wow now the are reports about the Knicks being interested in Vucevic, Harris and Randle

[spree2kawhi]

[quote="spree2kawhi"]Very underrated trade. Both teams win, Portland and Atlanta. Nice to see.

How so?

Portland needed this exact type of player to hang with the Warriors. Turner is not as bad as people say he is. He is a legit ball handler and post scorer and he's efficient at both. A very good role player, not much more, okay, but clearly nothing less. He'll play a role next to their undersized scoring guard.

Each team needs the other one's player and they are great fits now respectively.

Ummmmm okay, not sure how you explained how that was a very underrated trade since they just traded one role player for another. I don't think E.Turner is a bad player i just think he got way overpaid with his last contract and because of that he started getting hammered pretty hard as a overpaid player. Still think he has game and can play a bench role but so can't Bazemore and Bazemore has better defense. I'd say Bazemore is a 3-D player and E.Turner can do a little bit of everything but nothing great.[/quote]
I don't need to explain how this trade is underrated. You just did. I think it was a great trade for both teams, an interesting idea, an impactful decision.

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[HarthorneWingo]

Speaking of fcking jokes ...

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2842806-carmelo-anthony-rumors-star-has-interest-in-ending-nba-career-with-knicks

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[blueNorange]

ain't no f'n chance pills signing melo to poison this nucleus of kids.

[Worst_to_First]

Melo should just go to the Lakers along with JR Smith and Shump.

[JCS]

Not to break up the KD, Kyrie, Knicks/Nets fun, but, in the event that the Knicks don't sign any big free agents, here are two major thoughts I've had recently.

Firstly, we've obviously talked about the possiblity of the Knicks taking on some bad contracts into their cap space. Those teams may want to create room to sign a free agent or otherwise avoid the luxury tax. Here are some teams that have players with one big year remaining on their contracts:

1. Miami Heat: Hassan Whiteside at $27MM.
2. Toronto Raptors: Serge Ibaka at $24MM.
3. Milwaukee Bucks: Jon Leuer at $9.5MM.
4. Portland Trailblazers: Meyers Leonard at $11MM.
5. Washington Wizards: Ian Mahinmi at $16MM.
6. Minnesota Timberwolves: Jeff Teague at $19MM.
7. Charlotte Hornets: Bismack Biyombo at $17MM.
8. Phoenix Suns: Tyler Johnson at $19MM.
9. LA Clippers: Danilo Gallinari at $22.6MM.

I really doubt the Suns would give up Mikal, but if it meant that they could both sign D'Angelo Russell and retain Kelly Oubre Jr.?

Good research, thanks.

[knicksanity]

If KD the lone Tier1 FA will sign with the Knicks, My next step is to sign 2 or 3 vets to 1 year deals even if Knicks will overspend

Ariza/JaMychal Green/Chandler/Justin Anderson/Tolliver/Felton/Wilson Chandler/Carter/Gibson

This vets will not cry about playing time, they're here to teach and empower the locker room. Just like Sheed, Thomas and Kidd had done to Melo and others plus we can trade them to a contender at the deadline and gain some assets in return.

Losing so many games doesn't guarantee a top 3 pick anymore. I know this vets are not going to sneak us into the playoffs too but winning games will accelerate the maturity for this young ones.

Once KD come back we all know that he's not here to play games with immature kids, He also wants to win so the day that KD step on the hardwood inside MSG to play his first game as an official Knick Barrett, Knox, Trier, Robinson, Dsj, Frank, Iggy and Dot will light it up along side with KD and whoever the Knicks sign in 2020! ! !

PS: If Durant will sign this offseason

[knicks9784]

I would never give up on the Knicks. Though I have thought many times about giving up on the Mets.

really? the knicks have been far worse than the mets over the years and more dysfunctional

Yes, easily. I believe if Dolan owned a baseball team he would've bought a championship by now. The Wilpons just need to sell the team, they are cheap in a huge market....the worse type of owners. Hired a salesperson that has made all the wrong moves. The league wants to see more homers when we had a nice starting pitching rotation...also it is just looking at the other team in New York doing a lot if the right things, just makes me pissed.

The Knicks at least give an effort compared to the Mets when it comes to trying better their roster.

All Fair points but I’d still take the Mets playoff trips over the last 15+years over the Knicks.

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