Chuma Okeke drafted #16 by the Orlando Magic

[SOUL]

Yeah, pepe is flat out wrong here with those examples since a lot of those guys had other issues going on/were already old/sucked in general. More players with ACL tears that had great careers:

Bob Lanier
Sean Elliott
Bernard King
Lou Williams
Baron Davis
Ron Harper
Jamal Crawford
Tony Allen

It's never an easy road to recovery but there are so many examples of it not being anything to immediately doubt someone returning the same. I mean, obviously with any significant injury there is a chance the player will not come back the same, but that's pretty much any injury in any sport. Too many concussions, a bad wrist injury, broken leg, back issues, Achilles, etc, so many things can mess a player up.

[spinedoc]

Anyone we picked at 16 was projected to be some type of role player. We took the best one, and at a position we'll always need. Go-to scores are hard to find. Hopefully we already have one on the roster.

Still have FA to address needs.

Not totally correct, statistically you're probably right, but you have to at least prioritize the right skillsets. I'm talking about a dynamic wing player ala Tmac. you have to at least start off with taking a guy with handles, can dominate possession of the ball, and can facilitate. If you take a stretch four, then you have zero chance of getting that. Not to beat a dead horse, but I believe there was a group of guys to take a chance on that would have fit that bill potentially.

I'm totally with you in your train of thought... guys with handles have the most potential to become great players, imo. The most dynamic athletic wing player available at 16 was Kevin Porter Jr, imo... and the dude was picked 30th. Why? Because at the same time that his upside was tantalizing, so was the fear of his inconsistencies, BBIQ, selfishness, character and bust factor. If we picked Okeke at 30, there would be no fuss. The whole fuss about him is his draft spot.

At 16, c'mon now... a wing player like T-Mac was not available for us. If you align your expectations with the draft spot producing a plus level role player or starter, then coming away with Okeke has a lot of good things going for his selection. If you wanted a star at 16, you never gave yourself a chance to come away with positive feelings in this draft.

Star is a bit of a stretch, I didn't mean to imply that. I put up a big standard with tmac, but my point was catching someone early and watch him blossom. you're right, it may not be in this draft, but I wanted to take a chance on it. I said before the draft, I'll leave it up to management on which guy they like best. I assumed however that eventually we are going to start to look for guys who can create their own shot to some effect, considering the cupboard is a bit bare. I'm not trying to hate on Okeke. I've said he's good at what he does and what he is. I liked Auburn this year and had them deep on my brackets. I like Bruce Pearl with his TN connections, because that's where I live now. I wanted to like this pick really. At what point are we going to try and find guys that can create some offense? We have the best fastbreak team in the league. Its fun to watch them run the floor, but when the offense bogs down in the halfcourt, we end up jacking up bad shots. It gets slow and ugly. I also said I liked Mann in the second round. If they would have given me any groceries based on that need, I wouldn't have bitched nearly as much.

[Nyce_1]

Also, a quick note about ACL injuries. We've come a long way with them, it used be a long time frame to come back. However, its still a significant injury and a lot can still go wrong with them. Whenever you cut on good meat, scar tissue forms in its place. It may not happen at the surgically repaired area, but it may cause weakness somewhere else. Too many are writing it off as a walk in the park. Again, much better than in the past, but its still a concern.

Indeed. Some players simply don't recover like others.
Brandon Roy had MCL tear that you can in theory fix within 6 weeks, yet one thing lead to another and guy retired at age of 27.
Same happend to Arenas.

Rose is now viewed as "success story" yet guy went from being youngest MVP in history to vets minimum player.


Oden and Bynum both were forced to retire due knee issues, both cases were "hopless" from medicine perspective, despite happening in last few years.

Chris Anderson had ACL tear and retired.
jarret Jack had ACL tear and kind a retired ( didn't play this year at all)
Tony Wrotten is out of NBA.
Exum never plays.
Brandon Knight never returned as good player.

Positive cases: Zach Lavine, Spencer Dinwiddie

Roy had a degenerative cartilage problem that resulted on his movements being bone on bone.

Arenas got rich, fat and lost motivation to be great.

Rose's game was based on explosiveness since he couldn't shoot and was a low BBIQ guy.

Oden and Bynum were 7 footers with bodies that weren't meant for basketball.

Jack had a long career. It was his time.

Wroten, Exum and Knight are/were sucky NBA players who shouldn't be using injury as an excuse for their suckness.

Zach Lavine, Kyle Lowry, Gallinari, Rondo, Shaun Livingston recovered fine... and Porzingis is about to get maxed out.

Listen, we know it's never great news when someone is injured, but you haven't been unbias in your feelings about the pick, so mostly anything negative you can think of is coming out in full force in your posts so it's hard to take you seriously... it's all just premature hatred bias to fill your agenda since you think Okeke was a bad pick.

Well said.

[basketballRob]

Also, a quick note about ACL injuries. We've come a long way with them, it used be a long time frame to come back. However, its still a significant injury and a lot can still go wrong with them. Whenever you cut on good meat, scar tissue forms in its place. It may not happen at the surgically repaired area, but it may cause weakness somewhere else. Too many are writing it off as a walk in the park. Again, much better than in the past, but its still a concern.

Indeed. Some players simply don't recover like others.
Brandon Roy had MCL tear that you can in theory fix within 6 weeks, yet one thing lead to another and guy retired at age of 27.
Same happend to Arenas.

Rose is now viewed as "success story" yet guy went from being youngest MVP in history to vets minimum player.


Oden and Bynum both were forced to retire due knee issues, both cases were "hopless" from medicine perspective, despite happening in last few years.

Chris Anderson had ACL tear and retired.
jarret Jack had ACL tear and kind a retired ( didn't play this year at all)
Tony Wrotten is out of NBA.
Exum never plays.
Brandon Knight never returned as good player.

Positive cases: Zach Lavine, Spencer Dinwiddie

Kyle Lowry had an ACL in college and was playing 2 months later.

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[Skin]

Not totally correct, statistically you're probably right, but you have to at least prioritize the right skillsets. I'm talking about a dynamic wing player ala Tmac. you have to at least start off with taking a guy with handles, can dominate possession of the ball, and can facilitate. If you take a stretch four, then you have zero chance of getting that. Not to beat a dead horse, but I believe there was a group of guys to take a chance on that would have fit that bill potentially.

I'm totally with you in your train of thought... guys with handles have the most potential to become great players, imo. The most dynamic athletic wing player available at 16 was Kevin Porter Jr, imo... and the dude was picked 30th. Why? Because at the same time that his upside was tantalizing, so was the fear of his inconsistencies, BBIQ, selfishness, character and bust factor. If we picked Okeke at 30, there would be no fuss. The whole fuss about him is his draft spot.

At 16, c'mon now... a wing player like T-Mac was not available for us. If you align your expectations with the draft spot producing a plus level role player or starter, then coming away with Okeke has a lot of good things going for his selection. If you wanted a star at 16, you never gave yourself a chance to come away with positive feelings in this draft.

Star is a bit of a stretch, I didn't mean to imply that. I put up a big standard with tmac, but my point was catching someone early and watch him blossom. you're right, it may not be in this draft, but I wanted to take a chance on it. I said before the draft, I'll leave it up to management on which guy they like best. I assumed however that eventually we are going to start to look for guys who can create their own shot to some effect, considering the cupboard is a bit bare. I'm not trying to hate on Okeke. I've said he's good at what he does and what he is. I liked Auburn this year and had them deep on my brackets. I like Bruce Pearl with his TN connections, because that's where I live now. I wanted to like this pick really. At what point are we going to try and find guys that can create some offense? We have the best fastbreak team in the league. Its fun to watch them run the floor, but when the offense bogs down in the halfcourt, we end up jacking up bad shots. It gets slow and ugly. I also said I liked Mann in the second round. If they would have given me any groceries based on that need, I wouldn't have bitched nearly as much.

I think they have tried to add that in Fultz. I'd be upset if I thought their rebuild was finished, but we're definitely not there yet. Let's see how they attack FA. This is a very important summer for us. The contracts they give out will tell us a lot.

That said, we have star potential in guys like Isaac, Bamba... I still think Gordon is trending upwards and if Fultz can get right, we'll be a true force. Getting that stud wing might have to come to us via FA after we've assembled an attractive supporting team. That's why I don't want to make irresponsible long term commitments that will handicap us in future years.

[pepe1991]

Also, a quick note about ACL injuries. We've come a long way with them, it used be a long time frame to come back. However, its still a significant injury and a lot can still go wrong with them. Whenever you cut on good meat, scar tissue forms in its place. It may not happen at the surgically repaired area, but it may cause weakness somewhere else. Too many are writing it off as a walk in the park. Again, much better than in the past, but its still a concern.

Indeed. Some players simply don't recover like others.
Brandon Roy had MCL tear that you can in theory fix within 6 weeks, yet one thing lead to another and guy retired at age of 27.
Same happend to Arenas.

Rose is now viewed as "success story" yet guy went from being youngest MVP in history to vets minimum player.


Oden and Bynum both were forced to retire due knee issues, both cases were "hopless" from medicine perspective, despite happening in last few years.

Chris Anderson had ACL tear and retired.
jarret Jack had ACL tear and kind a retired ( didn't play this year at all)
Tony Wrotten is out of NBA.
Exum never plays.
Brandon Knight never returned as good player.

Positive cases: Zach Lavine, Spencer Dinwiddie

Roy had a degenerative cartilage problem that resulted on his movements being bone on bone.

Arenas got rich, fat and lost motivation to be great.

Rose's game was based on explosiveness since he couldn't shoot and was a low BBIQ guy.

Oden and Bynum were 7 footers with bodies that weren't meant for basketball.

Jack had a long career. It was his time.

Wroten, Exum and Knight are/were sucky NBA players who shouldn't be using injury as an excuse for their suckness.

Zach Lavine, Kyle Lowry, Gallinari, Rondo, Shaun Livingston recovered fine... and Porzingis is about to get maxed out.

Listen, we know it's never great news when someone is injured, but you haven't been unbias in your feelings about the pick, so mostly anything negative you can think of is coming out in full force in your posts so it's hard to take you seriously... it's all just premature hatred bias to fill your agenda since you think Okeke was a bad pick.

Me being harsh to Iwundu resulted same backlash from some posters
last year posters were overhyping freaking Briscoe, not to mention MCW. That's what people here do. Blind "defense" of players that have no reasons to be thrilled about. (yet they want to get rid of Vuc and Ross so they can watch college season i guess? )

Magic drafted projected second round pick in middle of first round, who also happends to be 6'6-6'7 PF tweener that they don't need.
On top of that he won't play whole year.
I find zero reasons to act like i liked a pick when literally not a single person on this board mentioned his name before draft and not a single mock had him going earlier than 25-26.

It's just another reach for Hammond and Weltman like Coboclo,Rashad Vaughn and Thon Maker.

[Skin]

Indeed. Some players simply don't recover like others.
Brandon Roy had MCL tear that you can in theory fix within 6 weeks, yet one thing lead to another and guy retired at age of 27.
Same happend to Arenas.

Rose is now viewed as "success story" yet guy went from being youngest MVP in history to vets minimum player.


Oden and Bynum both were forced to retire due knee issues, both cases were "hopless" from medicine perspective, despite happening in last few years.

Chris Anderson had ACL tear and retired.
jarret Jack had ACL tear and kind a retired ( didn't play this year at all)
Tony Wrotten is out of NBA.
Exum never plays.
Brandon Knight never returned as good player.

Positive cases: Zach Lavine, Spencer Dinwiddie

Roy had a degenerative cartilage problem that resulted on his movements being bone on bone.

Arenas got rich, fat and lost motivation to be great.

Rose's game was based on explosiveness since he couldn't shoot and was a low BBIQ guy.

Oden and Bynum were 7 footers with bodies that weren't meant for basketball.

Jack had a long career. It was his time.

Wroten, Exum and Knight are/were sucky NBA players who shouldn't be using injury as an excuse for their suckness.

Zach Lavine, Kyle Lowry, Gallinari, Rondo, Shaun Livingston recovered fine... and Porzingis is about to get maxed out.

Listen, we know it's never great news when someone is injured, but you haven't been unbias in your feelings about the pick, so mostly anything negative you can think of is coming out in full force in your posts so it's hard to take you seriously... it's all just premature hatred bias to fill your agenda since you think Okeke was a bad pick.

I find zero reasons to act like i liked a pick when literally not a single person on this board mentioned his name before draft and not a single mock had him going earlier than 25-26.

Not a single person, eh? OK, last time I'll do this... feels so good is all. I loved the guy and we got 'em.

I let the mock drafters influence me into thinking he wasn't worth the #16 pick, but the NBA said otherwise.

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1755293&p=74048512&hilit=okeke#p74048512

I just saw on sportscenter that Giovany and I think the other ESPN NBA draft analyst is Schultz, They have Darius Garland #4 on their board and Jarrett Culver #5 with obviously Zion #1, Morant #2 and Barrett #3. So I guess that tells me if Garland or Culver is available at our pick that we should draft them.

Also what happens if Cam Reddish dropped down to our pick which I do think its possible cause he's gone downhill so there's concerns about him. I would pass on Reddish if he was available at our pick.

Crazy sad how poorly Reddish played this season. I don't question the talent as much as the dog in him. Doesn't seem like he has a killer instinct.

I would take Chuma Okeke ahead of him. Feel in love with him during the tournament.

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1755293&p=74048512&hilit=okeke#p74048512

Depending on the next few games, Orlando will be firmly out of the draft lottery at around pick 16-18.

Hopefully a good prospect that can add talent and make a difference to this roster is available at those picks.

Chuma Okeke, 6'8, 230 - 7' wingspan that WeHam will love

Tore his ACL against UNC so his rehab will be long, but I think it will allow him to be where we are. We can wait for him to get healthy. Plays with a junk yard dog mentality that I love. Feisty defender... gobbles up steals and blocks. Drives and plays above the rim, but his shot is wet. 39% 3PT shooter on almost 4 attempts/gm.

Watch on YouTube

[pepe1991]

Roy had a degenerative cartilage problem that resulted on his movements being bone on bone.

Arenas got rich, fat and lost motivation to be great.

Rose's game was based on explosiveness since he couldn't shoot and was a low BBIQ guy.

Oden and Bynum were 7 footers with bodies that weren't meant for basketball.

Jack had a long career. It was his time.

Wroten, Exum and Knight are/were sucky NBA players who shouldn't be using injury as an excuse for their suckness.

Zach Lavine, Kyle Lowry, Gallinari, Rondo, Shaun Livingston recovered fine... and Porzingis is about to get maxed out.

Listen, we know it's never great news when someone is injured, but you haven't been unbias in your feelings about the pick, so mostly anything negative you can think of is coming out in full force in your posts so it's hard to take you seriously... it's all just premature hatred bias to fill your agenda since you think Okeke was a bad pick.

I find zero reasons to act like i liked a pick when literally not a single person on this board mentioned his name before draft and not a single mock had him going earlier than 25-26.

Not a single person, eh? OK, last time I'll do this... feels so good is all. I loved the guy and we got 'em.

I let the mock drafters influence me into thinking he wasn't worth the #16 pick, but the NBA said otherwise.

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1755293&p=74048512&hilit=okeke#p74048512

I just saw on sportscenter that Giovany and I think the other ESPN NBA draft analyst is Schultz, They have Darius Garland #4 on their board and Jarrett Culver #5 with obviously Zion #1, Morant #2 and Barrett #3. So I guess that tells me if Garland or Culver is available at our pick that we should draft them.

Also what happens if Cam Reddish dropped down to our pick which I do think its possible cause he's gone downhill so there's concerns about him. I would pass on Reddish if he was available at our pick.

Crazy sad how poorly Reddish played this season. I don't question the talent as much as the dog in him. Doesn't seem like he has a killer instinct.

I would take Chuma Okeke ahead of him. Feel in love with him during the tournament.

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1755293&p=74048512&hilit=okeke#p74048512

Depending on the next few games, Orlando will be firmly out of the draft lottery at around pick 16-18.

Hopefully a good prospect that can add talent and make a difference to this roster is available at those picks.

Chuma Okeke, 6'8, 230 - 7' wingspan that WeHam will love

Tore his ACL against UNC so his rehab will be long, but I think it will allow him to be where we are. We can wait for him to get healthy. Plays with a junk yard dog mentality that I love. Feisty defender... gobbles up steals and blocks. Drives and plays above the rim, but his shot is wet. 39% 3PT shooter on almost 4 attempts/gm.

Watch on YouTube

lol good for you for mentioning his name .

[KillMonger]

I find zero reasons to act like i liked a pick when literally not a single person on this board mentioned his name before draft and not a single mock had him going earlier than 25-26.

Not a single person, eh? OK, last time I'll do this... feels so good is all. I loved the guy and we got 'em.

I let the mock drafters influence me into thinking he wasn't worth the #16 pick, but the NBA said otherwise.

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1755293&p=74048512&hilit=okeke#p74048512

Crazy sad how poorly Reddish played this season. I don't question the talent as much as the dog in him. Doesn't seem like he has a killer instinct.

I would take Chuma Okeke ahead of him. Feel in love with him during the tournament.

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1755293&p=74048512&hilit=okeke#p74048512

Chuma Okeke, 6'8, 230 - 7' wingspan that WeHam will love

Tore his ACL against UNC so his rehab will be long, but I think it will allow him to be where we are. We can wait for him to get healthy. Plays with a junk yard dog mentality that I love. Feisty defender... gobbles up steals and blocks. Drives and plays above the rim, but his shot is wet. 39% 3PT shooter on almost 4 attempts/gm.

Watch on YouTube

lol good for you for mentioning his name .

[Optimus_Steel]

He reminds me of a more athletic Shane Battier which would be awesome for 16th pick. Anyone agree?

[gde684]

I like the more athletic battier comp that was who came to mind for me as well. I understand why some are frustrated and I think it’s mostly because no one saw it coming. With that said we got a player that has the skills and iq to actually reach his potential. It would be nice if that ceiling was star but like many others have said that isn’t always realistic at 16. Okeke will be a fan favorite. I have no doubt that many who are hating now will love this guy in a year or two.


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[jayrehme]

I like the more athletic battier comp that was who came to mind for me as well. I understand why some are frustrated and I think it’s mostly because no one saw it coming. With that said we got a player that has the skills and iq to actually reach his potential. It would be nice if that ceiling was star but like many others have said that isn’t always realistic at 16. Okeke will be a fan favorite. I have no doubt that many who are hating now will love this guy in a year or two.


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The difference with Okeke and say Isaac, Bamba, or AG is that he ALREADY has the basketball skills and physical build to be successful, not just banking on potential, length, and athleticism. Once healthy he should be able to contribute instantly with less growing pains. I love the addition.

[dsg2021]

He reminds me of a more athletic Shane Battier which would be awesome for 16th pick. Anyone agree?

I mentioned this earlier too.. praying to God he can make an impact like Battier. I also see a little Tobias, with less offensive (go-to) ability and more defensive ability.

[zaymon]

He reminds me of a more athletic Shane Battier which would be awesome for 16th pick. Anyone agree?

I mentioned this earlier too.. praying to God he can make an impact like Battier. I also see a little Tobias, with less offensive (go-to) ability and more defensive ability.

But with much better feel for the game and PASSING which was one of the biggest knocks on Tobias during his tenure here. Maybe he wont have such self creation ability (he has in the post), but overall he can be even more impactful.

[dsg2021]

He reminds me of a more athletic Shane Battier which would be awesome for 16th pick. Anyone agree?

I mentioned this earlier too.. praying to God he can make an impact like Battier. I also see a little Tobias, with less offensive (go-to) ability and more defensive ability.

But with much better feel for the game and PASSING which was one of the biggest knocks on Tobias during his tenure here. Maybe he wont have such self creation ability (he has in the post), but overall he can be even more impactful.

Yeah, better passing could end up being the biggest benefit.

If this kid blows up in the NBA, I have been wondering why can't we play all three of AG, JI, and CO at the same time. I think AG has the lateral quickness, the foot speed, the length to guard 2's.. and you are what you guard.. so that means AG becomes a pseudo-SG if all three are too good. CO could maybe also guard 2's too.

I'm really glad there's some GM's and FO's anonymously commending each other's decisions.. like how Bol was top 20 in quite a few teams' big boards.. and how Chuma was gonna get taken very soon after 16. The media consensus big board is still not as good as private NBA teams'.

[Skin]

I mentioned this earlier too.. praying to God he can make an impact like Battier. I also see a little Tobias, with less offensive (go-to) ability and more defensive ability.

But with much better feel for the game and PASSING which was one of the biggest knocks on Tobias during his tenure here. Maybe he wont have such self creation ability (he has in the post), but overall he can be even more impactful.

Yeah, better passing could end up being the biggest benefit.

If this kid blows up in the NBA, I have been wondering why can't we play all three of AG, JI, and CO at the same time. I think AG has the lateral quickness, the foot speed, the length to guard 2's.. and you are what you guard.. so that means AG becomes a pseudo-SG if all three are too good. CO could maybe also guard 2's too.

I'm really glad there's some GM's and FO's anonymously commending each other's decisions.. like how Bol was top 20 in quite a few teams' big boards.. and how Chuma was gonna get taken very soon after 16. The media consensus big board is still not as good as private NBA teams'.

I think we get caught up too much in position labels. At times we saw Isaac guard every position. Seen him anywhere from playing man up on D'Angelo, Harden, Lebron, Kawhi to playing zone in the post against typical bigs. Same with AG. Chuma only adds another to that core. We'll be switching all game long creating the best match ups possible... and that is how you win playoff basketball.

[Skin]

Soooooooooo best nickname?

Chumanji
Who?ma Okeke
Chuma O'Freaky
Chuman Highlight Reel
The Keek Freak
Camp Kekewaka

[tiderulz]

I mentioned this earlier too.. praying to God he can make an impact like Battier. I also see a little Tobias, with less offensive (go-to) ability and more defensive ability.

But with much better feel for the game and PASSING which was one of the biggest knocks on Tobias during his tenure here. Maybe he wont have such self creation ability (he has in the post), but overall he can be even more impactful.

Yeah, better passing could end up being the biggest benefit.

If this kid blows up in the NBA, I have been wondering why can't we play all three of AG, JI, and CO at the same time. I think AG has the lateral quickness, the foot speed, the length to guard 2's.. and you are what you guard.. so that means AG becomes a pseudo-SG if all three are too good. CO could maybe also guard 2's too.

I'm really glad there's some GM's and FO's anonymously commending each other's decisions.. like how Bol was top 20 in quite a few teams' big boards.. and how Chuma was gonna get taken very soon after 16. The media consensus big board is still not as good as private NBA teams'.

im not sure now with that extra muscle he is carrying. his weight helps in the paint, but i think it slow him down a tiny bit

[zaymon]

But with much better feel for the game and PASSING which was one of the biggest knocks on Tobias during his tenure here. Maybe he wont have such self creation ability (he has in the post), but overall he can be even more impactful.

Yeah, better passing could end up being the biggest benefit.

If this kid blows up in the NBA, I have been wondering why can't we play all three of AG, JI, and CO at the same time. I think AG has the lateral quickness, the foot speed, the length to guard 2's.. and you are what you guard.. so that means AG becomes a pseudo-SG if all three are too good. CO could maybe also guard 2's too.

I'm really glad there's some GM's and FO's anonymously commending each other's decisions.. like how Bol was top 20 in quite a few teams' big boards.. and how Chuma was gonna get taken very soon after 16. The media consensus big board is still not as good as private NBA teams'.

im not sure now with that extra muscle he is carrying. his weight helps in the paint, but i think it slow him down a tiny bit

I think the real interesting lineup is supersized smallball lineup which strangely no one is taking about. Isaac at center, AG at power forward, Chuma at small forward. Its even hard to call it small ball, but the potential there is huge. I think Isaac body could be ready next year or in two years.

[OrlChamps2030]

Yeah, better passing could end up being the biggest benefit.

If this kid blows up in the NBA, I have been wondering why can't we play all three of AG, JI, and CO at the same time. I think AG has the lateral quickness, the foot speed, the length to guard 2's.. and you are what you guard.. so that means AG becomes a pseudo-SG if all three are too good. CO could maybe also guard 2's too.

I'm really glad there's some GM's and FO's anonymously commending each other's decisions.. like how Bol was top 20 in quite a few teams' big boards.. and how Chuma was gonna get taken very soon after 16. The media consensus big board is still not as good as private NBA teams'.

im not sure now with that extra muscle he is carrying. his weight helps in the paint, but i think it slow him down a tiny bit

I think the real interesting lineup is supersized smallball lineup which strangely no one is taking about. Isaac at center, AG at power forward, Chuma at small forward. Its even hard to call it small ball, but the potential there is huge. I think Isaac body could be ready next year or in two years.

No ones talking about that lineup because we drafted Bamba at 6 and we might be investing 20+ mill a season in Vucevic. I always wanted to see AG/JI run the 4/5 together but it just never really happened when we had the opportunity