Offseason Thread: The Waiting is the Hardest Part

[robillionaire]

that seems unlikely, unless we're taking chris paul back.

we traded washed up melo, we can trade washed up KD

For Enes Kanter, Dougie McBuckets and a 2nd round pick?

Thanks, I'll pass (even though that 2nd round pick became Mitch, it is still a 2nd round pick)

that's a pretty decent haul for a walking corpse

[Clyde_Style]

Did Max Kellerman really just day that Kristaps is one of the greatest hes ever seen on defense lol

Max Kellerman was a boxing analyst for most of his career

When ESPN approached Max Kellerman they asked him:

"Have you ever heard of the game called basketball?"

Max said no.

ESPN said you're hired.

The rest is history.

[Clyde_Style]

we traded washed up melo, we can trade washed up KD

For Enes Kanter, Dougie McBuckets and a 2nd round pick?

Thanks, I'll pass (even though that 2nd round pick became Mitch, it is still a 2nd round pick)

that's a pretty decent haul for a walking corpse

Alright, uncle

[god shammgod]

The only free agent I really really want is Kawhi...
I know it's a long shot but at the end of the day he is a champion, and healthy as of right now.

they needed to give him 25 games off this season and his knee was still messed up badly from overcompensating because of the hamstring injury. so while as not as dire as kd, he aint really healthy either.

[Knick4Real]

Are you aware he ruptured his Achilles?

Yes, KEVIN DURANT ruptured his Achilles. However, there are other top free agents besides him -- yet posters are still predicting we get NOTHING, which, IMO, is kinda silly to do at this point.

No decision from ANY free agent has been announced. I suggest we at least wait for the real thing rather than spend hours reacting to rumors that sway with the wind.

Well i think maybe it also has to do with the mutliple times Peryy and Mills and the NY media has said if we don't sign one of the top guys in KD or Kawhi then we won't be signing any of the high dollar guys, so limiting us to just two major free agents when there's anywhere from 6-7-8 teams that will be going after those two guys and with one of them being a huge percentage that he's either staying on his championship team or going to LA kinda puts us in a tough position when it comes to any of the big names.

Now of course all this talk about it starting with one of those two or we do nothing with any of the big money free agents could all be just some BS since we haven't ever heard Perry or Mills actually say that that's how it will be so this all could just be speculation by the media and fans and they could look at some of the other bigger money guys and sign two of them but it sure seems like their max money list is very limited.

Now it is a 100% fact that we will sign free agents this offseason because the rules tell us we have to spend 90% of our cap so if all you're tryinbg to say is that the Knicks will absolutely sign free agents then you sir are correct, they will because they have to, but what everyone else is talking about is if we'll sign a KD or a Kawhi or a Kyrie or a Kemba or a J.Butler type not Mario or M.Morris or even a R.Rubio type.

I highlighted my point above. TONS of rumors are floating around, just as they do every year around this time. Most of those rumors are spread by agents and GMs to affect other franchises -- yet a lot of fans on this site hear a rumor and immediately receive it as fact. My point was to remind everyone free agency hasn't started yet so to say "It's Over" is just blind.

[Br00kLyn]

KD is not KD anymore. He's Joel Ingles at best.

This may possibly be the dumbest thing I have ever seen posted here. well done sir

[Jordan-esque]

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[god shammgod]

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it could be we're pulling back like the cap said. dolan as the risk averse voice of reason is a hell of a plot turn.

[NYF13]

KD is not KD anymore. He's Joel Ingles at best.

This may possibly be the dumbest thing I have ever seen posted here. well done sir

I find that hilarious too bro! Durant (injured) = Ingles... seriously GTFO!!! WOW

[newyorker4ever]

Rudy Gay averaged 13 and 7 last year a year after his Achilles injury, Wes Matthews came back to help Indy a year after his Achilles and we know Kd is 100 times better than those guys, so stop with the doom and gloom..science is a lot better these days..if KD returns will be top player in the world no, but he still can be top 10

wes matthews has sucked post achilles injury watch him shoot a jump shot he can't even jump he's a shell of his former self on portland

When you say he can't jump do you mean he can't make a layup or that he just can't jump up to do a jump shot? Seems to me if he can jump to make a layup or to dunk a basketball then he can jump to do a jump shot right?

[DOT]

I am no expert on this but I would guess KD will be allstar good, but not MVP good. Basically a top 20 player, but not a top 5 player.

I think he puts up Tobias Harris numbers

20/7/3 on 49/40/86 splits

Solid, All Star caliber player, but not a #1 option

That's the most likely scenario. I'm not paying 40 mil for that if we don't already have a #1 guy is my thing

[Knick4Real]

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it could be we're pulling back like the cap said. dolan as the risk averse voice of reason is a hell of a plot turn.

Well, that would be an interesting plot twist!

[Deeeez Knicks]

If Dolan passes on Durant based on the medical report you know Durant is coming back 100%.

Whatever Dolan says do the opposite.

[blumatic]

Even if he’s a shell of himself we won’t care because Mitch, Knox, RJ, Trier, DSJ, And Frank would of all developed into the best version of themselves.

my thought process is even if KD doesn't totally work out and come back to form for next were we will still be developing our youth and should get a high draft pick.

If we sign guys like Randle/DLO or other we tie up all our cap space and take our developmental minutes away plus might be a 9th or 8th seed and reep no draft pick reward.

KD almost ties up space to not do anything stupid and continue the build...which is sad but that is worse case scenario. Best case is KD redshirts and comes back close to 100%, the kids develop, and we get a high 2020 pick. That is Plan A right now

He's my fear about committing to KD. Committing to KD means to win now. Even with that redshirt year. I'm afraid that we'll flip this whole roster just to win something with Durant within that 4 year window.

Durant will be out year one(age 31), year two (age 32) he'll have set back and sit out a lo of games because of soreness and load management. Year 3 (age 33) will be when he'll close to his old self, then after that he's in a contract year (age 34).

These kids will not be ready to win until possible RJ Barrett enter into his 5th year (which is outside Durant's contract years)

That is what the Durant era will look like. Lots of questions and waiting around. In addition Durant has played with nothing but MVP caliber players his whole career. Now on the other side of 30 we expect him to carry the young kids on a bum leg. Durant is about 10 years older than the average age of our roster.

To me this timeline along with these circumstances will NOT produce a championship or a Finals appearance. So why commit all this money, time, and energy and media stories about will he wont he for a guy you wont win with.

Durant is not a long term plan endeavor. Especially with his injury. So what's the point. Just to have him?

KD's timeline is way beyond the timeline of our core. I doesn't make sense to me.

[BeagleBoss]

It's amazing how some of you don't get how much a torn achilles on a 32 year old basketball player who relays on pull up's and stop and go penetrations isn't going to lose a lot with this injury. Maybe Ingles is a bleak outcome but I'd be shocked if KD averages 20-22 ppg again in his career. Especially at ages 33 and 34. Aside from the injury, age will catch up to him.

[HerSports85]

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[Capn'O]

It's a gut call. Not a whole lot of reason behind it.

My gut says no.

my heart is saying yes but my head is saying no. anybody else with other body parts speaking to them ?

Those two are often at odds. I give the gut the tiebreaker.

[god shammgod]

If Dolan passes on Durant based on the medical report you know Durant is coming back 100%.

Whatever Dolan says do the opposite.

i know you're kidding, but it's possible he learned from the amare situation

[newyorker4ever]

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Ohhhhhh boy, here we go. I was wondering how close to free agency we could get until the NY media started putting tweets out about Dolan getting involved in free agent decisions. This one tweet is gonna be something that all the other media people are gonna run with and twist things around and everything else they can do to make sure that every free agent knows that Dolan is a bad owner and is up to his old tricks and is getting involved in decision making and how it's not Perry making all the decisions.

Thanks a lot Adam Douche.

[F N 11]

Any team would show caution man. It’s called doing your job.